Clen without Benadryl

[Musab19]

Currently running a clen/t3 cycle without any AAS. What would happen if don't take any benadryl? (i don't have any problems to sleep)

Taking 160mcg of clen, 1week on and 1 week off
50mcg of T3 every day.

Currently on my week 3, going to continue on 6 weeks

[Bonaparte]

Well, the clen will stop working.
Not that Benadryl would have helped anyway, since it is keto that upregulates Beta-2 receptors.

[tballz]

Taking the week off cleans out the receptors. Most do 2-3 weeks on then 2-3 weeks off. I take ketotifen so I can stay on. And it helps me sleep.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

Currently running a clen/t3 cycle without any AAS. What would happen if don't take any benadryl? (i don't have any problems to sleep)

Taking 160mcg of clen, 1week on and 1 week off
50mcg of T3 every day.

Currently on my week 3, going to continue on 6 weeks

If you're doing 1 week on 1 week off then I wouldn't really see a need to use benadryl... If you were to use clen for an extended period of time i.e. continued use for 3 weeks + then look into the benadryl or even keto which would be more beneficial.

The T3 can eat up some muscle if you're not on AAS which is why it is recommended to only run on AAS unless you're willing to sacrafice some LBM. My heart feels like it's going to explode just reading 160mcg, I couldn't handle that much clen especially on the first day, are you ramping it up or just taking that much from the start?

[minitourwvu]

Well, the clen will stop working.
Not that Benadryl would have helped anyway, since it is keto that upregulates Beta-2 receptors.

I use benadryl and it works man i know the chem ia derived from a slightly different branch but i guarantee at least its working for me. Im on week 5 and i still take 50mg of benadryl ed and it keeps the clen working.

[Musab19]

If you're doing 1 week on 1 week off then I wouldn't really see a need to use benadryl... If you were to use clen for an extended period of time i.e. continued use for 3 weeks + then look into the benadryl or even keto which would be more beneficial.

The T3 can eat up some muscle if you're not on AAS which is why it is recommended to only run on AAS unless you're willing to sacrafice some LBM. My heart feels like it's going to explode just reading 160mcg, I couldn't handle that much clen especially on the first day, are you ramping it up or just taking that much from the start?

Thanks for answering everyone, i started with 120mcg but didn't feel so much harm, just a bit muscle cramps and some shaking the first two days, but i drink a loft of water so muscle cramps disappeared. Thats why i take 160mcg, going to take 200mcg next week. (i have clen from alpha pharma)

not using any AAS cause i have never used it before, this is my first cycle. Don't think i will lose so much muscles cause i just take 50mcg ed

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

Supplement some Taurine and Potassium, that should help with the cramping.

The recommended dose is no more 120mcg, maybe your source isn't as strong as the banner above. Somebody will probably tell you to edit out the lab name btw, it's against the rules.

[JohnnyVegas]

Supplement some Taurine and Potassium, that should help with the cramping.

The recommended dose is no more 120mcg, maybe your source isn't as strong as the banner above. Somebody will probably tell you to edit out the lab name btw, it's against the rules.

Agree with Taurine and Potassium. 3 grams of Taurine works for me (less, actually since I forget to take it sometimes).

I worry about you taking 200mg as well.

[DanB]

Thanks for answering everyone, i started with 120mcg but didn't feel so much harm, just a bit muscle cramps and some shaking the first two days, but i drink a loft of water so muscle cramps disappeared. Thats why i take 160mcg, going to take 200mcg next week. (i have clen from **********)

not using any AAS cause i have never used it before, this is my first cycle. Don't think i will lose so much muscles cause i just take 50mcg ed

You need edit out the lab name, and by the way if you can handle 200mcg clen then you have the chinese underdosed vesion of your ugl, I dont know anybody that can handle 200mcg, 140-160mcg max and this is barely bareable, and these people handle stims well. . . .

And if you dont feel much on 120mcg then it is definately the chinese underdosed, no question about it

[FONZY007]

Sorry,

If you would take keto, how much would you take so you can continue running Clen?

[FONZY007]

You need edit out the lab name, and by the way if you can handle 200mcg clen then you have the chinese underdosed vesion of your ugl, I dont know anybody that can handle 200mcg, 140-160mcg max and this is barely bareable, and these people handle stims well. . . .

And if you dont feel much on 120mcg then it is definately the chinese underdosed, no question about it

Agree with Dan, I handle stims very well, but Clen at 120mcgs I'm shaking my ass off lol

[DanB]

Sorry,

If you would take keto, how much would you take so you can continue running Clen?

1-2g before bed

[JohnnyVegas]

Sorry,

If you would take keto, how much would you take so you can continue running Clen?

I agree with DanB. I take 2mg at night. It makes some folks sleeeepy.

Agree with Dan, I handle stims very well, but Clen at 120mcgs I'm shaking my ass off lol

I start at 100mcg and go up to 140mcg. I have shakes for the first two days and then I don't feel much of anything after that. I am starting to wonder if maybe my receptors don't work well, or maybe I am just lucky when it comes to sides.

Still, I won't take more than 140mcg because it seems to be working despite a lack of strong sides. I had a surprising lack of sides to something else once and upped the dosage. Not good. Lesson learned.

[FONZY007]

Thanks guys for the info

2mg everyday or for a week on week off?

[Musab19]

Thanks for good answers everyone, much help.

I see that i have an underdosed clen, so should i just take a higher dose until i feel that its going to be too hard for me. At 160mcg i dont feel any problem or muscle cramps. I dont take taurin, keto or benadryl, but still i dont have any cramps ore sleeping problems

[ata1979]

Am I the only one here that noticed he is taking T3 everyday. You have to cycle the T3 like the clen 1on1off or you are gonna shutdown your thyroid for good and guess what there is no PCT for the thyroid, it could stay shutdown forever. Then you become hypothyroid and you have the metabolism of a 70 year old for the rest of your life. T3 isnt dangerous if you know how to use it, but if misused the damage could be permanent. I suggest 1 week clen, 1 week T3, 1 week clen, 1 week T3.

[DanB]

Am I the only one here that noticed he is taking T3 everyday. You have to cycle the T3 like the clen 1on1off or you are gonna shutdown your thyroid for good and guess what there is no PCT for the thyroid, it could stay shutdown forever. Then you become hypothyroid and you have the metabolism of a 70 year old for the rest of your life. T3 isnt dangerous if you know how to use it, but if misused the damage could be permanent. I suggest 1 week clen, 1 week T3, 1 week clen, 1 week T3.

This is a wayyy old theory and basically its wrong

It is now known that t3 can be used for prolonged periods with no damage done, some even say that tapering doses isn't necessary

This has been all backed up hundreads of times on other boards by bloodwork and I'm sure there is prob some kicking around this board aswell

So that's why nobody commented on the t3

[DanB]

Thanks guys for the info

2mg everyday or for a week on week off?

No I just run it from day 1 and everyday because it helps me settle at night but in theory it isn't actually needed until around week 2

[Musab19]

so i can continue taking 50mcg of t3 everyday? have been taking thats dose everyday in almost 4 weeks now, is it safe?

[Bonaparte]

Am I the only one here that noticed he is taking T3 everyday. You have to cycle the T3 like the clen 1on1off or you are gonna shutdown your thyroid for good and guess what there is no PCT for the thyroid, it could stay shutdown forever. Then you become hypothyroid and you have the metabolism of a 70 year old for the rest of your life. T3 isnt dangerous if you know how to use it, but if misused the damage could be permanent. I suggest 1 week clen, 1 week T3, 1 week clen, 1 week T3.

You really need to quit repeating garbage info you heard in the locker room.

[tballz]

I use benadryl and it works man i know the chem ia derived from a slightly different branch but i guarantee at least its working for me. Im on week 5 and i still take 50mg of benadryl ed and it keeps the clen working.

How do you know the clen is still working? Just because you have the shakes doesn't mean the clen is working the way you want it to work. There needs to be a slight increase in body temp.

[tballz]

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