what is the best oral steriod

[christo12]

hi was just wondering what is the best oral anabolic steriod for gaining muscle mass gains without injecting and keeping most gains. i cant recall any although hopefully someone on the forum has better information than i do.

[DanB]

Try reading the profiles

[christo12]

no idea how to vuse this forum just figured out how to put one up. i am new to this and it has probably been asked and answered although i need advice and thought this would be the best way to find it as i have no idea how to use the forum as yet.

[600@50]

Like Dan said read the profiles. Very good info in there and easy to read.....no bs.

[600@50]

no idea how to vuse this forum just figured out how to put one up. i am new to this and it has probably been asked and answered although i need advice and thought this would be the best way to find it as i have no idea how to use the forum as yet.

I believe the easiest is from the steroid.com home page over on the left side there's a steroid profiles tab. That should get you there.

[DanB]

http://www.steroid.com/steroid_profiles.php

[600@50]

Thanks DB. I couldn't copy a link with the phone app.

[Juced_porkchop]

Careful because the drug pofils is just scratching the tip of info on these compounds that you need to know.
DONOT just read them, pick one and use it.
you will hurt yourself.
step one MONTHS of indepts researching all the main steroids, (drug profiles will be about a 1-2days worth, just to give you an idea of how much should be known)

also oral only cycles are not good, here is something i just posted as to why:
when you use steroids (any steroid for the most part, even testosterone or (teste /cyp) your body shuts down its own production of test, and thats one reason of a few why I feel oral only cycles are not good.
Testosterone is needed in the body for many functions and you would have more side effects and less gains on top of it beign worse for you when you do oral only cycles with no test base.
now that dosent mean you need ot do a "test cycle" it can even be an HRT (hormone replacment therapy) dose.
If you cant/dont want to do injections then find a cream like androgel , but it is not the best way to go about it, it is a hassle.

and another good post from a friend:


Dadawg-
Oral cycles

its spring and every day it seems like i read another ORAL ONLY thread on 1 board or another , dbol only appears to be the favorite sure fire method to look good for spring break.

1st off i would like to say that theres is nothing wrong with dbol , it definately has its place . the same goes for var , drol , halo , tbol , etc. .

heres the problem with oral only cycles . the average man needs 100-200 mg a week of injected test if hes on hormone replacement therapy . if you start using steroids your natural test will shut down , even on var so you will lose the benefit of the test when you cycle.that means you will have to take in that much steroids JUST TO BREAK EVEN.on top of that when you come of that oral / dbol you will be shut down and will take several weeks to recover so you will lose there as well.

thats not a problem on injectable cycles because you will be taking anywhere from 2-5 times as much hormones or more than your body naturally produces . YOU CAN NOT DO THAT USING JUST ORAL STEROIDS. the health effects of massive oral cycles make running them just plain stupid and dangerous.

[1010101]

So would something like Androgel be sufficient if stacked with an oral like Beastdrol compared to just taking the oral alone? What is the main reason injectable test is favorited over a topical gel?

[DanB]

So would something like Androgel be sufficient if stacked with an oral like Beastdrol compared to just taking the oral alone? What is the main reason injectable test is favorited over a topical gel?

Look into the dose of test in androgel versus test cyp etc

why not just inject, it aint that scary

[1010101]

The androgel packs were about 50mg each where I think most users injecting use 500mg test e so obviously its not comparable. I just did not want to take an oral only cycle, I was hoping to use the androgel as test replacement therapy.

I would not mind injecting, but thats another couple days worth of research not counting finding a legit source.

[stephenschmidt1]

Dude...I suggest reading and read alot!!! This site will teach you everything you need to know.
Read until you find something you don't understand and instead of just posting a thread asking, just take those key words and type them in the search bar at the top right. Lol

But just my 2 cents, oral cycles, test boosters, and pro hormones all have their purpose but as a foundation in a cycle...that's not what they are best at.
Your shutting down your hpta and damaging your liver for very minimum gains.

[1010101]

First Cycle:
W1-10 test enanthate 500mg EW
W12-15 PCT with clomid

/thread

unrustle your jimmies

[stephenschmidt1]

^^^not the best.
If ya really want to cycle.
Week 1-10 Test E 500mg/week 2xpin Monday/Thursday
Week 1-12 arimidex .5mg eod
Week 1-12 HCG 250iu 2x per week
Week 13-16 clomid 100/50/50/50
Week 13-16 nolva 40/40/20/20

But don't take one person you have never mets advice. Do your own research and get opinions fr as many people as possible.

[Times Roman]

what is the best car?

I guess it really depends on what you want that car to do!

[stephenschmidt1]

That is true, but from a safety stand point I think we can all agree a car with airbags,
Antilock brakes, and seat belts are safer.

I didn't change the gear used, I just think if your young and want to do aas then you should do everything you can to protect yourself.

[gymsoldier]

I would not mind injecting, but thats another couple days worth of research not counting finding a legit source.

Impatience isn't a good start. What's the rush?
And since you wouldn't mind pinning, go with Test over an oral only cycle.

^^^not the best.
If ya really want to cycle.
Week 1-12 Test E or Test C 500mg/week 2xpin Monday/Thursday
Week 1-14 arimidex .25mg eod
Week 1-14 HCG 250iu 2x per week
Week 16-19 clomid 100/50/50/50
Week 16-19 nolva 40/40/20/20

But don't take one person you have never mets advice. Do your own research and get opinions fr as many people as possible.

Just changed three things there. One was the time, I regret not running 12 weeks over 10 weeks.
Second was it could be Test-C also (OP probably doesn't know all the esters). And third, 0.25mg instead of 0.5mg Adex EOD.

But as you said, OP do your research.

[< <Samson> >]

I rather shoot then do a oral. I know there some good looking ones out. . . But, the liver damage does not sound like a needed benefit. There are so many good injectables. . . . . But, If I ever ran one it would be the one that is the easiest on the liver. But, it is also possible to inject.

[swm1972]

what is the best car?

I guess it really depends on what you want that car to do!

Can it get me laid?

[Times Roman]

That is true, but from a safety stand point I think we can all agree a car with airbags,
Antilock brakes, and seat belts are safer.

I didn't change the gear used, I just think if your young and want to do aas then you should do everything you can to protect yourself.

so yer saying being an old bull makes me less concerned for my safety?

[MuscleInk]

so yer saying being an old bull makes me less concerned for my safety?

Lol.....oh THIS is going to be good!

Disclaimer: Do NOT rattle TR's cage!!!!!!

[Times Roman]

Lol.....oh THIS is going to be good!

Disclaimer: Do NOT rattle TR's cage!!!!!!

easy there mate.... it's all in fun!

but the original question is legitimate enough.

[t-dogg]

Isnt the best oral a blow job? End thread/

[Atomini]

None.

[Honkey_Kong]

I rather shoot then do a oral. I know there some good looking ones out. . . But, the liver damage does not sound like a needed benefit. There are so many good injectables. . . . . But, If I ever ran one it would be the one that is the easiest on the liver. But, it is also possible to inject.

The liver damage is blown out of proportions with orals. I don't agree with running oral only cycles, but 50mg a day for 3-4 weeks of dbol isn't going to put you on the liver transplant waitlist.

OP, do the extra research and find a good source for injectable testosterone. Cypionate or Enthanate would be your better options since you'd only have to pin yourself twice a week.

[Bonaparte]

That is true, but from a safety stand point I think we can all agree a car with airbags,
Antilock brakes, and seat belts are safer.

F1 cars don't have ABS or airbags, but they kick some serious ass.
There is rarely ever an answer to the "best" of anything.

[Jonnyg419]

So would something like Androgel be sufficient if stacked with an oral like Beastdrol compared to just taking the oral alone? What is the main reason injectable test is favorited over a topical gel?

Dude no offense, but you need to go back to the drawing board with that androgel/beastdrol idea.

[Brohim]

The liver damage is blown out of proportions with orals. I don't agree with running oral only cycles, but 50mg a day for 3-4 weeks of dbol isn't going to put you on the liver transplant waitlist.

OP, do the extra research and find a good source for injectable testosterone. Cypionate or Enthanate would be your better options since you'd only have to pin yourself twice a week.

Honestly most guys on here including OP are probably 20 year old dudes that want to do a cycle for the beach. Oral only like Var or Tbol is much safer than HPTA shutdown that is risked with Test and especially other injectables like deca and tren.

[Times Roman]

The liver damage is blown out of proportions with orals. I don't agree with running oral only cycles, but 50mg a day for 3-4 weeks of dbol isn't going to put you on the liver transplant waitlist.

OP, do the extra research and find a good source for injectable testosterone. Cypionate or Enthanate would be your better options since you'd only have to pin yourself twice a week.

this is true for the average bloke with a healthy liver. but if we give out general advice to the general public, sooner or later, some newb will follow "your" (maybe not you personally) advice that doesn't have a healthy liver, and can cause damage. keep in mind that what we record here as "advice" is seen by thousands of other people, that haven't joined the forum yet. You are always free to do as you please on your own. But the advice here needs to be responsible, and low risk. Most of the people here, whether registered or not, are newbs, not pros. Please keep that in mind, and remember that newbs will do some crazy shiit without realizing they could be hurting themselves. They are newbs because they don't really know any better. (That's why they come here... to learn!)

even right now, there are 4 members and 10 guests reading this thread......

[Bonaparte]

Honestly most guys on here including OP are probably 20 year old dudes that want to do a cycle for the beach. Oral only like Var or Tbol is much safer than HPTA shutdown that is risked with Test and especially other injectables like deca and tren.

I actually agree with this view.

[drose979]

What is s androgel and testim good for?

[Bonaparte]

What is s androgel and testim good for?

TRT...if that.

[AD]

i know a guy who did a test/dbol cycle. his blood work while on cycle showed his liver enzymes slightly over 700. the normal is less than 30-40. at such a high reading, his liver is going through damage similar to that caused by acute viral hepatitis. which i think sounds quite serious.

but that's just one guy. others may react differently.

[Honkey_Kong]

this is true for the average bloke with a healthy liver. but if we give out general advice to the general public, sooner or later, some newb will follow "your" (maybe not you personally) advice that doesn't have a healthy liver, and can cause damage. keep in mind that what we record here as "advice" is seen by thousands of other people, that haven't joined the forum yet. You are always free to do as you please on your own. But the advice here needs to be responsible, and low risk. Most of the people here, whether registered or not, are newbs, not pros. Please keep that in mind, and remember that newbs will do some crazy shiit without realizing they could be hurting themselves. They are newbs because they don't really know any better. (That's why they come here... to learn!)

even right now, there are 4 members and 10 guests reading this thread......

Well of course I was assuming the person taking the dbol would have a healthy liver. I mean, I hope somebody with liver problems would have enough sense not to be messing with orals (probably all gear too). I was just saying that people on here tend to exaggerate the danger to the liver. But you're right, I'm sure some idiot with a bad liver might read what I wrote and "David Crosby" himself with a Dbol cycle thinking it's G2G. So for that I apologise.

[< <Samson> >]

i know a guy who did a test/dbol cycle. his blood work while on cycle showed his liver enzymes slightly over 700. the normal is less than 30-40. at such a high reading, his liver is going through damage similar to that caused by acute viral hepatitis.

Ouch, that proves my point of "fvck oral roids". . . Too many good injecatbles out to do orals.

[sharmabrah]

Dingaz brah.

[Bonaparte]

i know a guy who did a test/dbol cycle. his blood work while on cycle showed his liver enzymes slightly over 700. the normal is less than 30-40. at such a high reading, his liver is going through damage similar to that caused by acute viral hepatitis. which i think sounds quite serious.

but that's just one guy. others may react differently.

What was his Dbol dose and duration? Those numbers are unheard of for oral steroids.