How many registered Libertarians do we have here?

[Times Roman]

Besides myself I mean...............

[Coolhand5599]

I am registered as Independent but I am libertarian. However I am not one of the nut jobs that will not support Romney. We may not know what we will get with him, but we do know what we will get with Obama. And that scares the hell out of me.

[stpete]

Here..

[SexySweetheart]

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[stpete]

I'm running Sexy.....haha...And for what it's worth, i agree w/you.

[gixxerboy1]

i'm registered independent. This will probably the only year where my vote may count. Since now im in a swing state

[SEOINAGE]

I registered republican so I could attempt to support Ron Paul, I was shocked how many people wanted Santorum in my area, only was one other Ron Paul supporter at my meeting.

[thegodfather]

Republicanism is itself, a libertarian ideology. Republican, obviously...

[RaginCajun]

registered as an independent here

[Igifuno]

registered as an independent here

Same.

[curioususer]

Ron paul lover here!!

[BFM]

Registered Rep. But am a huge fan of Ron Paul. I will either write his name in, or stay home.

[curioususer]

we need to vote Obama out of the office in order to repeal Obamacare.

[AXx]

This guy!!!

[Times Roman]

Ron paul lover here!!

ahem (cough cough)

I don't think I would take it THAT far mate! =)

[Razor]

I think top Paul,is a little,crazy but has good intentions though

[zivot]

I'm a registered Libertarian, but ideologically speaking I'm not a Libertarian. I simply view the Libertarian Party as being the only party as a whole that vows to minimize this disgustingly large, oppressive, centralized government that currently occupies this country.

[Times Roman]

there are many principles of the party i like.....

like the government should not try to legislate a person's behavior?

[zivot]

When speaking of 3rd parties, that's actually what I think is one of the main things wrong with the LP. Being firm on a stance is a very important and respectable trait for any political party to live by, but seeing how many people in the U.S. don't even know what Libertarianism is, they need to appeal to the public by attacking only a few current problems in detail instead of trying to get people to change their entire minds on how the government is currently working, how the government worked at one point, the laws of this said government, and how to change this government to xxxxxxxxxxxx.

[zivot]

Plus, Gary Johnson needs to cut the consumption tax fight. The consumption tax he proposes is not only just as unconstitutional, oppressive, and "un-American" as the income tax, but there seems to be enough studies showing there would be worse effects on an economic system then the income tax.

Then again, taxes by nature are oppressive, so I guess one statist offering a different policy then another statist may come off as being similar, as in both negative.

[Pale1]

Libertarian checking in!

[wmaousley]

Besides myself I mean...............

You mean you can register to be a voting Libertarian? I was asked on my form to check Republican or Democrat. WTF, I was gipped

[Times Roman]

You mean you can register to be a voting Libertarian? I was asked on my form to check Republican or Democrat. WTF, I was gipped

go here
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...e-for-yourself
check out pane #3

this will allow you to register to vote as a Libertarian if that is what you want to do

Cheers!

[zivot]

I read in another thread that you two both served in the Armed Forces. I must admit that I was once under the impression that those who served in the military sometime or another within the last 30 years or so would logically (because of their professions) be against certain key causes that the LP advocates.

[Times Roman]

I read in another thread that you two both served in the Armed Forces. I must admit that I was once under the impression that those who served in the military sometime or another within the last 30 years or so would logically (because of their professions) be against certain key causes that the LP advocates.

such as?

[Honkey_Kong]

I really wish I never registered to vote. I don't find myself subscribing to any of the current major party's ideology entirely. On top of that, the election system is about duping morons in to voting for you, not who is the better man for the job. It's just a popularity contest in which all the candidates are liars and the only real loser is us.

And I don't have a better system to replace this one with.

[zivot]

such as?

It's a view I used to hold, but I thought the military and economical intervention the U.S. government loves to do would turn a Libertarian (or Libertarian leaning _________) person away from enlisting or seeking a commission into one of the branches. But I've spoken to a few Libertarians who were either currently in the military or at one point served and I heard various explanations that made perfect sense. It simply being a job was not only the most understandable reason I heard, but also the most relatable. But a former Marine went into detail about how he went into the service as Conservative and after spending some time in business after being discharged, how he was convinced Libertarianism was the proper route to go. When asked about his view on the Gulf War (in which he served) he mentioned how during the war he was caught up by the propaganda, but when he had a political view shift, his view on the war changed as well. And he even answered someone's question about his view on the military as a source of many things, in which he said something like "I got a degree and some skills all for free from a big Government I want to see minimized, I am against this, but it worked for me". Something like that.

[zivot]

I really wish I never registered to vote. I don't find myself subscribing to any of the current major party's ideology entirely. On top of that, the election system is about duping morons in to voting for you, not who is the better man for the job. It's just a popularity contest in which all the candidates are liars and the only real loser is us.

And I don't have a better system to replace this one with.

Maybe that's a sign that having a system in place is negative by itself.

[Honkey_Kong]

Maybe that's a sign that having a system in place is negative by itself.

We need some form of government though, otherwise we'd have nothing but chaos.

[zivot]

Government isn't the cause of living in a non-chaotic society, laws that don't allow 16 year olds to drink but allow them to serve life prison sentences, that's a cause done by government. Highly expensive bureaucratic process to open up an individually run business, that's government. There are many traits in why a community may or may not be chaotic, but if government is the reason behind the lack of chaos, it most likely has to do with implementation of oppressive laws. Regardless of how it's ran, all forms of centralized government is oppressive to people's birth right of being able to live free.

[Times Roman]

It's a view I used to hold, but I thought the military and economical intervention the U.S. government loves to do would turn a Libertarian (or Libertarian leaning _________) person away from enlisting or seeking a commission into one of the branches. But I've spoken to a few Libertarians who were either currently in the military or at one point served and I heard various explanations that made perfect sense. It simply being a job was not only the most understandable reason I heard, but also the most relatable. But a former Marine went into detail about how he went into the service as Conservative and after spending some time in business after being discharged, how he was convinced Libertarianism was the proper route to go. When asked about his view on the Gulf War (in which he served) he mentioned how during the war he was caught up by the propaganda, but when he had a political view shift, his view on the war changed as well. And he even answered someone's question about his view on the military as a source of many things, in which he said something like "I got a degree and some skills all for free from a big Government I want to see minimized, I am against this, but it worked for me". Something like that.

I don't conform to the Libertarian view point, I only have much in common. Realistically, the military is a necessary evil. I just don't think the amount of money we spend on it is appropriate. Way over kill.
I also oppose the welfare system, something the democrats strongly support (it is their constituants they are protecting). I have a philosophy that seems to ring true. Subsidize what you want. If you put money into a program, it will only grow. Stop giving away free money, then these deadbeats will do something else. Welfare kids will no longer be a goal.
I also am against legislating behavior. Republicans want to criminalize gay marriage. Why? Who does it really hurt? If we had TRUE seperation of church and state, something i have written about here, then this would be a non issue. Because the evangelicals see this as a sin (they also happen to partially run the republican party), and therefore want to save us from ourselves. Therefore, they think they know better than the individual.

Anyways, i joined the military over 30 years ago, long before I began to notice politics....

[zivot]

I agree with you, I want the welfare system done with, but I also want all regulations over the economy done with as well. A man can't open up a business without going through every single expensive step that is required of him to complete to start and operate a business in the U.S., all because of the government's control over the economy which immediately goes against capitalism and any form of freedom to the individual.

[Times Roman]

I agree with you, I want the welfare system done with, but I also want all regulations over the economy done with as well. A man can't open up a business without going through every single expensive step that is required of him to complete to start and operate a business in the U.S., all because of the government's control over the economy which immediately goes against capitalism and any form of freedom to the individual.

well, the guys on wall street would love that. worldcom would love it too.

sorry mate. i disagree with you on this one. in the long run, you may be right. but greed is too great a motivator, and historically, greed left unchecked ruins countless lives. Look at the current economic situation we are in now. The basic political position was that everybody should be a home owner. WRONG! Anyways, standards were lowered, and greedy mortgage bankers went on a lending binge. Lending money when they shouldn't have. People begain defaulting. Strict regulation over the financial markets is a necessity.

[zivot]

Chances are that if there was an unregulated Laissez Faire economic system in place the guys on Wall Street would actually hate it. Without regulation would come overt insider trading, market manipulation, etc. which would ultimately lead to people losing faith in the stock exchange which would either kill the exchange or would require them to self-regulate without the SEC.

Differing economic views I guess, seeing how I'm a stern supporter of Austrian Economics, which would make any form of regulation (by a centralized government) a no non in my book.

[Honkey_Kong]

Chances are that if there was an unregulated Laissez Faire economic system in place the guys on Wall Street would actually hate it. Without regulation would come overt insider trading, market manipulation, etc. which would ultimately lead to people losing faith in the stock exchange which would either kill the exchange or would require them to self-regulate without the SEC.

Differing economic views I guess, seeing how I'm a stern supporter of Austrian Economics, which would make any form of regulation (by a centralized government) a no non in my book.

Eventually, you'll end up with monopolies and a more overt aristocracy. The rich will use their wealth to be richer, squeeze out the middle class and make the poor poorer until there is another peasant uprising.

[Gambolputty]

I am planning on changing my registration. Seems to me that both the Democrats and Republicans are totally sold out to the special interests groups with the most cash.

Middle class guys are getting f****d in the ass as a result.

Oh how I dream of a viable third party.

[Times Roman]

I am planning on changing my registration. Seems to me that both the Democrats and Republicans are totally sold out to the special interests groups with the most cash.

Middle class guys are getting f****d in the ass as a result.

Oh how I dream of a viable third party.

It will only become a viable third party when voters, such as yourself, stop "protest voting" and voting their conscious, regardless of whether they think it will be a winning vote or not