First Cycle- Looking For Finishing Touches

[slatts77]

going to be my first cycle and i think ive gotten it pretty close to right but would like some advice to make it spot on

Week 1-12: Test E, 300/wk (I have been told to run 500 but my first cycle and others say 300 is plenty )
Week 1-12: Exemestane 25mg EOD (researched it and its 85% estrogen suppression so hopefully just as effective as arimidex or aromasin)

PCT - starts 2 weeks after last injection
Nolva: 40/20/20/20

I read up on clomid and seems to bring too many side effects, and the nolva is stronger so i was going to just run it alone

if ive got anything wrong ill gladly take advice

[creekrat]

What are your stats? Height, weight, BF%, and goals? If all is kosher there take the test to 500 and pin 250 twice a week. I'd run arimidex at 0.25-0.50 mg eod and look into running HCG on cycle right up to the first day of PCT.

[slatts77]

6 ft 160 so im reallly looking to bulk a lot but still stay toned and cut. And you recommend the arimidex instead of the Stane of the Ar-r banner? And the HCG with the arimidex to keep my nuts from shrinking right?

[creekrat]

What about age? You could use their liquidex. Just my preference. The HCG allows for quicker recovery as well as testicular atrophy. The arimidex is an aromatase inhibitor that blocks the aromatase enzyme. This helps with the prevention of gyno and other estrogen related sides that also includes water retention. At your height though a proper diet could give you lean gains and get you into the 190-210lb range while still being about 10-15% bf

[greenwell001]

dont mean to hijack the thread but i am going to run the same cycle with the liquidex and was wondering what the dose would be.

[slatts77]

yeah the liquid letro? and only .25mg?

[slatts77]

alright made some changes yet still need a couple more tips
Week 1-12: Test E, 300/wk
Week 1-12: liquid letro .50mg (not sure if thats right dosage just been told its right)
Week 1-12: HCG.... dosage unknown

PCT - starts 2 weeks after last injection
Nolva: 40/20/20/20

[btern]

run 500mg test e per week split into 2 shots!! run arimidex as an ai at .25 eod and adjust if needed. not letro as its more powerfull there for side affects are greater- only run letro if needed (THATS IF YOUR SHOWING SIDES OF GYNO in its early stages) run hcg up untill the end of cycle. and i only see nolva in your pct?? you must run clomid aswell. nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 50/50/40/40 its a rap bro !!! good luck

[Fllifter]

I would take bterns advice . That's spot on

[John Andrew]

You are 18, stop before you start! You are still growing up!

[slatts77]

kk what about liquid tamox instead of nolva?

[slatts77]

what dosage do i run for HCG

[slatts77]

is 250iu good?

[411vm]

Tamox and nolva are the same thing....do some research

[slatts77]

yeah i read up on that last night, my bad. just is 250 iu good for hcg and ed or eod

[411vm]

If you done some real research you would no dosage for hcg, anyway theres no such thing as a stupid question so
250iu twice a week

[slatts77]

yeah i asked that before i started reading up on hcg. But now i have


Week 1-12: Test E, 400/wk mon thur
Week 1-12: Arimidex .25 eod
Week 1-12: HCG 250iu mon thur

PCT - starts 2 weeks after last injection
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
clomid 50/50/40/40