are all hgh peptides fake? this is really bothering me

[manakawari]

i read the studies on cjc-1295 and based on those studies, after just a single shot, it was able to raise hgh levels by 2-10 fold and igf-1 levels by 1-3 fold. thats pretty amazing and considering most who try cjc-1295 are also combining it with ghrp-2 or 6 for added benefit, yet, all those who were smart enough to get blood tests online, all said their tests showed that their hgh and igf levels were unchanged from baseline.

so whats the deal, is this garbage all fake or just seriously underdosed making it worthless? it pisses me off because if i was able to find a source for real cjc, ..i would be a customer for life because based on the cjc trial, it seems that cjc is at least as good as a high dose of HGH at a fraction of the price and im not even looking for a high dose, i would like to begin using hgh for anti aging and fat loss at like 4iu daily and i think if there was any realy cjc around it could provide that.

anyone have an opinion? i wanna start hgh but pharma is too expensive , chinese stuff is either fake or seriously underdosed, and since i would like to use this for a long time, cjc seems like a reasonable choice but im not gonna waste my money on something that cant even change my baseline blood work when im looking to get my hg back to youthful levels or higher.. cjc in a lab was able to do that and more, so why can the garbage being sold recreate that? forget that, i would be happy if it worked half as well but all im finding online is ZERO CHANGE, nothing .

[spywizard]

so you have your blood tests done after doing said peptides?? or "what others say""??

[manakawari]

you should have test done before and after you start but at the very least after you start, like i said, based on the cjc trials there was a 2-10 fold increase in hgh after a single shot of cjc...its safe to assume most of us are in the normal rage so after cjc you should at the very least be in the very high range and considering how most are using these with ghrp as well, you should be out of range but at least high,...every single blood test i was able to find online that someone took shows no change from baseline.... someone has got some explaining to do. im trying to find out if it all garbage or not..i would be willing to take a baseline and then test after im on the combo if i seller would provide the peptides for the test, i would also be a buyer for life and i would get tested every couple months and post my results online but im betting no sellers take me up on my offer because they know my number will not change. its a scam and so many people know it.

if i was to take and provide labs every couple months from a certain peptide seller showing that cjc/ghrp combo is equal to high dose HGH, no one would use hgh anymore, it would be a no brainer based on cost alone and said seller would make a killing but none will take me up on my offer. its sad cause i dont trust chinese hgh, i cant afford pharma, and it would be ideal to use cjc combo but eveyone sells fake chit and then makes excuses why it doesnt effect gh/igf.

[madds87]

you should have test done before and after you start but at the very least after you start, like i said, based on the cjc trials there was a 2-10 fold increase in hgh after a single shot of cjc...its safe to assume most of us are in the normal rage so after cjc you should at the very least be in the very high range and considering how most are using these with ghrp as well, you should be out of range but at least high,...every single blood test i was able to find online that someone took shows no change from baseline.... someone has got some explaining to do. im trying to find out if it all garbage or not..i would be willing to take a baseline and then test after im on the combo if i seller would provide the peptides for the test, i would also be a buyer for life and i would get tested every couple months and post my results online but im betting no sellers take me up on my offer because they know my number will not change. its a scam and so many people know it.

if i was to take and provide labs every couple months from a certain peptide seller showing that cjc/ghrp combo is equal to high dose HGH, no one would use hgh anymore, it would be a no brainer based on cost alone and said seller would make a killing but none will take me up on my offer. its sad cause i dont trust chinese hgh, i cant afford pharma, and it would be ideal to use cjc combo but eveyone sells fake chit and then makes excuses why it doesnt effect gh/igf.

bump... I def feel the dif.... but test studies would be awsome

[EZ E]

Of course much of the GHRP and CJC is fake/under-dosed. In general you get what you pay for so don't look for the cheapest but, instead, find a reputable source. Modified Grf 1-29 (CJC w/o DAC) and a GHRP wont raise serum IFG-1 levels until you are dosing at least 3x/day but it will increase the levels of IGF-1 in the muscles at a lower dosage schedule, which is where you want it. Besides serum levels of IGF-1 is not considered a very good way to measure HGH activity in the body anyway but it is simple and cheap compared to some of the other tests. Like rHGH, this combo isn't going to blow you away with results like you see when stating a AAS cycle but you should see some results in fat loss within a few weeks. I have been taking it now for about 3 weeks and I have noticed that I feel less 'run down' at the end of the day, am losing body fat, and look more full.

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

Of course much of the GHRP and CJC is fake/under-dosed. In general you get what you pay for so don't look for the cheapest but, instead, find a reputable source. Modified Grf 1-29 (CJC w/o DAC) and a GHRP wont raise serum IFG-1 levels until you are dosing at least 3x/day but it will increase the levels of IGF-1 in the muscles at a lower dosage schedule, which is where you want it. Besides serum levels of IGF-1 is not considered a very good way to measure HGH activity in the body anyway but it is simple and cheap compared to some of the other tests. Like rHGH, this combo isn't going to blow you away with results like you see when stating a AAS cycle but you should see some results in fat loss within a few weeks. I have been taking it now for about 3 weeks and I have noticed that I feel less 'run down' at the end of the day, am losing body fat, and look more full.

What dose are you using ?

[EZ E]

I am using 50mcg of Mod GRF 1-29 and 100mcg of GHRP-2 2x per day. I always take it before bed and take the second dose post workout or first thing in the AM if its a non-workout day. I would take 100/100 but I am trying cut costs by taking less of the Mod GRF.