Looking For Second Cycle Advice

[Jozzy7]

Hi everyone,
Just after some advice regarding my next cycle.

STATS:
Age - 24
Height - 5'11"
Weight - 91kg (200lb)
BF% - Approx. 10-13%

I have 6 years lifting experience, and have previously ran 1 cycle about 18 months ago.

Cycle included 400mg/week Test E only over 10 weeks (Noticeable results, but not as much as I was expecting)

I have my diet and training down pat, just looking to make the next step forward.

Proposed cycle is:
W 1-12: Sus250 (500mg/week, pinned 2 x per week)
W 1-12: Tren E (300mg/week, pinned 2 x per week... possible shared injection with the sus???)
W 1-12: Arimidex (0.5mg eod)
W 13 & 14: Nolvadex (40mg ed)
W 15 & 16: Nolvadex (20mg ed)

What I am most curious to receive advice on, is the possible severe side effects attributed to the usage of Tren... I guess I am just trying to decide if the benefits outweigh the negatives, as I have also heard Tren is probably the most powerful AAS available...

Anyway, go nuts people.. I am here to learn so constructive criticism is welcome. If you need further stats or anything let me know.

Joz

[freddy1418]

Hi everyone,
Just after some advice regarding my next cycle.

STATS:
Age - 24
Height - 5'11"
Weight - 91kg (200lb)
BF% - Approx. 10-13%

I have 6 years lifting experience, and have previously ran 1 cycle about 18 months ago.

Cycle included 400mg/week Test E only over 10 weeks (Noticeable results, but not as much as I was expecting)

I have my diet and training down pat, just looking to make the next step forward.

Proposed cycle is:
W 1-12: Sus250 (500mg/week, pinned 2 x per week)
W 1-12: Tren E (300mg/week, pinned 2 x per week... possible shared injection with the sus???)
W 1-12: Arimidex (0.5mg eod)
W 13 & 14: Nolvadex (40mg ed)
W 15 & 16: Nolvadex (20mg ed)

What I am most curious to receive advice on, is the possible severe side effects attributed to the usage of Tren... I guess I am just trying to decide if the benefits outweigh the negatives, as I have also heard Tren is probably the most powerful AAS available...

Anyway, go nuts people.. I am here to learn so constructive criticism is welcome. If you need further stats or anything let me know.

Joz

My thought is that tren is a little harsh for a second cycle... what's your goals on this cycle? I'm going on my second cycle and I'm adding deca though I wanted tren as well but after homework decided to wait for it... if I were you id step up the test a little to lets say 500 to 600mgs and add something a little less potent and I'm sure you'll get awesome results being that your diet is in check... its like trying to sprint through a marathon... tren is the ultimate juice and anything after it will prob not compare and there too many gains to make before that step is taken in my opinion... I'm gonna wait till I feel like my body is ready for tren.. im currently 6'2 at 217lbs and 12%bf and will prob wait till I'm 240-245lbs 10% bf so I can enjoy the beast of tren as it should be enjoyed Good Luck

[itsjayman02]

Hi I'm sure most will agree 24 is too young for you to be cycling and even without that tren is too much for a novice on second cycle so best left to test only again I'm afraid.

BUT you should wait another year don't rush into things look after your body now or suffer the sides in later life !!

[stpete]

I think you should hold off on the tren as well. Give your self a little break and come back and run some test/sus if you like. 12 weeks is better and your dose is fine. Check out the PCT Forum, you need to add clomid and wait 18 days after last pin to start PCT if using sus.

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^ yes i agree.
If you want to run something why not run deca with the test? Its an easier intro into to a 19 nor steroid side effects wise but its a great steroid. You could add in like 400mgs deca/week, Add in clomid on your pct like st pete said, and you have a nice cycle/pct that should make you very happy provided you eat , train and rest properly.
Note when I run deca i extend pct to 5 weeks running 20mgs nolva/day only in week 5.

[Jozzy7]

Thanks for all the great info guys. FYI looking to bulk with minimal fat with this cycle.
I'm the first to admit I need to tighten up my PCT, have not done enough homework on it yet...
Also, what benefit would one receive from running sus and test together? Both being testosterone I didn't think they would compliment each other...?