Winstrol on strength and speed

[Ridge596]

So, with taking Winstrol for 6 weeks, injection form, what strength gains can be expected? Don't care about mass, don't care about that lean muscle look, just on that strength and speed. Also, how well can that speed and strength be maintained after the cycle on Nolvadex or Clomid?

[gearbox]

you know that winn will shut your natty system down to some degree. and you may or will experience ED issues.
I would run it along side test and then your gtg.
but I need stats before I go further.
age
weight
height
bf%

[Gaspari1255]

you know that winn will shut your natty system down to some degree. and you may or will experience ED issues.
I would run it along side test and then your gtg.
but I need stats before I go further.
age
weight
height
bf%

He started another thread asking about his workout: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=#post6134576

And he admitted that he is way too young and underdeveloped for gear, yet he makes another thread asking about Winstrol.......

[austinite]

He started another thread asking about his workout: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=#post6134576

And he admitted that he is way too young and underdeveloped for gear, yet he makes another thread asking about Winstrol.......

Jeez. Nice catch Bronzer.

OP, you should be out skateboarding at your age, forget this stuff.

[Ridge596]

*snaps fingers* Foiled here, darn. As to Austinite, it's for football.

[Shsm]

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[Bevsta123]

So, with taking Winstrol for 6 weeks, injection form, what strength gains can be expected? Don't care about mass, don't care about that lean muscle look, just on that strength and speed. Also, how well can that speed and strength be maintained after the cycle on Nolvadex or Clomid?

you just watched Canseco on Steroids didnt you :P

[Ridge596]

Umm, who's Canseco? o.o And I'd like to say, even though I've been on here for a short amount of time, I like how the community actually has a regard for the well being of one another. So to you guys, y'all are cool

[warmouth]

If you got those gains from the other thread, WHY IN GODS NAME would you want to juice? That is just ignorant. I certainly have a hard time believing that you did this natty on that diet, but if you did, it proves everyones body responds differently. I say dont touch it at all period. But if that was natty just this year, not way I would jeopardize that genetic potential by chancing a go with AAS.

[Bevsta123]

Umm, who's Canseco? o.o And I'd like to say, even though I've been on here for a short amount of time, I like how the community actually has a regard for the well being of one another. So to you guys, y'all are cool

Just saw your diet, i can easily say i have for my first meal what you have in your first 3 sometimes 4 meals lol, diet needs more then a ton of work man!

[Ridge596]

o.o Sounds like an intense diet there. Buuuuutttt, my coach told me only 1 gram of protein per pound of weight.

[Shsm]

o.o Sounds like an intense diet there. Buuuuutttt, my coach told me only 1 gram of protein per pound of weight.

How old are you? Honestly.

[Ridge596]

Hmm? Why?

[Shsm]

Hmm? Why?

Because we're trying to help you. You're obviously not 20.

[Ridge596]

Eh, might as well say it because at this point, I'm not even thinking about doing it anymore, especially after everyone saying my gains are good enough as is. True age is 17.

[Shsm]

Eh, might as well say it because at this point, I'm not even thinking about doing it anymore, especially after everyone saying my gains are good enough as is. True age is 17.

There ya go. Just be honest with us and we'll be honest with you. Your results are impressive, however your diet and exercise routine needs a ton of work. Hit up the Nutrition sub-forum and get your diet in check and find a reputable workout program. Best of luck.

[Bevsta123]

o.o Sounds like an intense diet there. Buuuuutttt, my coach told me only 1 gram of protein per pound of weight.

how does 1 gram of protein represent how much your calori intake should be? im surprised your actually making gains?

[Ridge596]

Yes sir v_v Sowwy.

[Ridge596]

Oh, and yeah, I have no idea how the calorie thing works. I just gain like, a poundish a week or so from what I do, except for the recent plateau I've been hitting since I've started a lot of cardio.

[Bevsta123]

Oh, and yeah, I have no idea how the calorie thing works. I just gain like, a poundish a week or so from what I do, except for the recent plateau I've been hitting since I've started a lot of cardio.

Dont take this the wrong way but unless your 70lb with that diet i find it hard to believe

[Shsm]

Meal 1- Three whole large eggs, glass of milk. eggs - 210 calories, milk - 145 calories
Meal 2- Peanut butter sandwich. pb - 200 calories + 300 calories - bread)
Meal 3- Two-three servings of chicken breast 330 calories
Meal 4- Two cans of tuna fish on bread. tuna -200 calories + bread 300 calories
Meal 5- Protein Shake with a scoop of super advanced creatine walmart stuff. protein shake - 120 calories
Meal 6- Either another peanut butter sandwich, or a can of tuna with another glass of milk. My diet for the past year. 500 calories or 245 calories

total: 2000 to 2300 calories give or take

Now, I do snack! Sometimes I eat a little dry cereal here and there to curb my appetite, but it's all good. I think I may be working at a caloric deficit though.

This was your diet for the year and you still managed to gain 33 lbs? Something's not right here

[Ridge596]

Yeah, I gained from 160-193 in a full year. But it can be said I was recovering from a few months of bulimia+wrestling, which could have made my gains quite easy.
Also, your calorie counting on my diet was wrong. My shake is 300 calories, creatine makes it 450. And the break is like, 120 per two slices. I counted

Meal 1-360
Meal 2-300
Meal 3-330
Meal 4-440
Meal 5-450
Meal 6-400-480.
This turned out to 2360 for me, which does make me wonder why I gained like I did. But, I'm not completely strict, and I prolly consume a few hundred more with snacking in the day.

[Shsm]

Yeah, I gained from 160-193 in a full year. But it can be said I was recovering from a few months of bulimia+wrestling, which could have made my gains quite easy.
Also, your calorie counting on my diet was wrong. My shake is 300 calories, creatine makes it 450. And the break is like, 120 per two slices. I counted

Meal 1-360
Meal 2-300
Meal 3-330
Meal 4-440
Meal 5-450
Meal 6-400-480.
This turned out to 2360 for me, which does make me wonder why I gained like I did. But, I'm not completely strict, and I prolly consume a few hundred more with snacking in the day.

I was going off an estimate.

[Bevsta123]

Yeah, I gained from 160-193 in a full year. But it can be said I was recovering from a few months of bulimia+wrestling, which could have made my gains quite easy.
Also, your calorie counting on my diet was wrong. My shake is 300 calories, creatine makes it 450. And the break is like, 120 per two slices. I counted

Meal 1-360
Meal 2-300
Meal 3-330
Meal 4-440
Meal 5-450
Meal 6-400-480.
This turned out to 2360 for me, which does make me wonder why I gained like I did. But, I'm not completely strict, and I prolly consume a few hundred more with snacking in the day.

Highly doubt it, im on like 2400-600 i forgot exactly but yeah thats my maintance.. and im 75kg.. and thats like 160-170lbs idk so im calling bs, ether that or you didnt make muscle gains

[Ridge596]

2400-600...? And as for muscle gains, I've doubled pretty much all of my maxes since in September all the way to August.

[gearbox]

2400-600...? And as for muscle gains, I've doubled pretty much all of my maxes since in September all the way to August.

Doubled your maxes means you didn't max much weight to begin with.
This is sounding like I want to pop a winn pill so I can beat some guys up with my massive strength

[Ridge596]

Yeah =/ Only maxing at a 315 bench, 350 squat, and 260 close grip at the moment. And nah, only reason I thought about using winn was for that little extra oomph I needed for d end.

[Bevsta123]

i dunno just everything youve been saying is pretty sketchy

[Ridge596]

Believe what you'd like to believe. Not pressing for you to. I just want to improve myself is all.

[Kmoe4747]

Man I was I n the same spot as you in HS. I contemplated using AAS because I needed to get bigger in order to get a college scholarship. Take it from me man it's not worth it. I luckily did my research and it took me about 6 months of weighing the pros and cons. And the cons out weigh the pros all day. Just get a good protein,creatine,multi vitamin,pre work out, and diet. Oh and drink about 100 ounces of water a day!! I'm telling you this will work. Oh and one more thing none of this will work without busting your ass in the gym and on the field!! I went from 205 to 230 doing this and it took a shit load of work but I ended up getting a full ride to D1 college playing linebacker. Just eat your ass off man. Oh and no AAS will make you faster. Work on your hips and footwork Do a lot of hurdle work and 20 minutes of stretching. Let me know If you have any questions regarding football drills or work outs. I have tons!!! Be smart my man I was there once and it's not worth it

[Ridge596]

You guys have been a big help Q_Q