19 year old with concerns

[cordawg]

NO ITS NOT ME for real

I have a buddy who i go to the gym with occasionally, yes... hes 19... and yes... he already started his first cycle... I'm fairly new to it myself, on my second cycle, but he has been asking me alot of questions, i read these forums alot so some of them I can answer for him, but some of them i can't and obviously i'm not gonna pretend to know how to answer... First I'd like to say I know, and he now knows, starting a cycle at that age is a bad idea, you dont have to tell me that and no i am not supporting his cycle, just someone to talk to


now before i get into the question, he is a person who is easily affected by anxiety, so that may play on his concerns, and the fact that he has just found out that starting that young is no good, so that also plays a big role.

about a week ago he couldnt properly aspirate for one reason or another, did it anyway, pulled out, and blood dripped to the floor... i have also had this happen (although i aspirated) so pretty much i told him its 50/50, might have gone into a vein, or maybe went right through one, either way make sure to aspirate... that night and all the next day he was complaining about extreme fatigue, and though it faded abit after that he has said its still there... he took another just yesterday, and today says hes feeling a deep depression, obviously if its real and not in his mind, itd be due to hormone imbalance etc... or atleast thats my novice take on it... i've had depressed days as well, but not really at the beggining of my cycle :s more like a post thing, and their were alot of other factors that played into it

He wants to figure out if these things are due to his worrysome nature... or due to his age and what hes taking?
If since he started, the damage is done and he might as well continue?
If there is a safe way for him to continue (not wanting to stop)?
If he HAS to stop asap, whats the safest way to do that?

I told him id go on here and ask, so here I am, any input is appreciated... except for the people who just want to say he's a dummy...cuz we've already deduced that (lol not really a dummy jus ill informed prior to starting) he really wants to continue but wants to know what affects that will have on him in the long run that he wouldnt get had he started at say 25

[cordawg]

i tried to post his cycle stats above but the forums wont let me... still to knew to name them i suppose :s

[Honkey_Kong]

Why doesn't your "friend" come on and ask himself?

I think your "friend" is just mental, by the way. If you got it in a vein, you'd know. and let me tell you, it wouldn't be feeling lethargic the next day. But anyways, stop with the fvcking steroids.

[kronik420]

both of you should stop immediately and run PCT (hopefully you know what that is......)

[cordawg]

lol alright then guys... actually im 26, working out hard for 3 years before ever doing a cycle and working out sloppily for many years before that... its funny how a person can come searching for information and instead be shot down by people who think they can see through the internet and out my computer to who i actually am... BUT, i dont take offense to it, ive read these forums enough to know id get abunch of people replying in the way you did... anyone wanna actually address each individual question?

[cordawg]

but hey honkey kong... thanks for the info on hitting a vein... ive always aspirated and made sure to never shoot if i was in one so i wouldnt know the feeling

[kronik420]

regardless of your age if you did any research at all you would be able to answer these questions with ease. andi highly doubt your 26...

[cordawg]

alright fair enough i suppose i do know the answer to 3/4 of the questions... and yes im 26, born in 1986... the common answer ive seen everywhere is stop and start pct... so i suppose thats what i will tell HIM (still not me ) but i know thats not what he wants to hear, so what would happen to a 19 year old who decided to keep using them? and is his depression in his mind or a side affect... lol even if i was the 19 year old, which I solemnly swear i am not, why would u not just give him the information he asked for and send him on his way

[kronik420]

best thing you could do for him is give him a slap across the back of his head and a handful of nolva and clomid.

[cordawg]

alright thanks man i already did those both when he first approached me with his cycle, but i'll tell him again... obviously that is the underlying main solution to this problem... still curious as to the depression at the beginning of his cycle... i've pretty much chalked it up to being due to hormonal imbalance... it just strikes me as odd cuz me personally i feel happy as **** when im acouple weeks into a cycle... but obviously im not the one who knows what hes talking about here

[breakbones]

lol alright then guys... actually im 26, working out hard for 3 years before ever doing a cycle and working out sloppily for many years before that... its funny how a person can come searching for information and instead be shot down by people who think they can see through the internet and out my computer to who i actually am... BUT, i dont take offense to it, ive read these forums enough to know id get abunch of people replying in the way you did... anyone wanna actually address each individual question?

Don't trip to much bro. I've found that over the years as people say "Post steroid questions in the Q&A" then they say "Post your diet in the diet" but it don't matter, you get those people that just wanna sound as if they know it all by only recommending the simplest thing which is to "Go here first" go there first" "research this.

The funnier thing is that when they recommend you research more. little do they know the very question you are asking, in the very section of the topic is what is called Research>Duh

Just stay patient, there are some cool mates on here.

[breakbones]

But I will add: Your friend is to young for AAS, If he want's to use juice, then he should be the one on here expressing concern. IF ITS THAT MUCH OF A CONCERN TO HIM.

[cordawg]

maybe its more concerning to me than him...

[sam.j]

Don't trip to much bro. I've found that over the years as people say "Post steroid questions in the Q&A" then they say "Post your diet in the diet" but it don't matter, you get those people that just wanna sound as if they know it all by only recommending the simplest thing which is to "Go here first" go there first" "research this.

The funnier thing is that when they recommend you research more. little do they know the very question you are asking, in the very section of the topic is what is called Research>Duh

Just stay patient, there are some cool mates on here.

sooo true !!!!

[Sheven]

Don't use steroids before 25 unless you're life depends on them. Fact!

[ghettoboyd]

Don't trip to much bro. I've found that over the years as people say "Post steroid questions in the Q&A" then they say "Post your diet in the diet" but it don't matter, you get those people that just wanna sound as if they know it all by only recommending the simplest thing which is to "Go here first" go there first" "research this.

The funnier thing is that when they recommend you research more. little do they know the very question you are asking, in the very section of the topic is what is called Research>Duh

Just stay patient, there are some cool mates on here.

this may seem that way to you bro but in reality peeps are just trying to direct people toward the proper forums where there are people with real world knowledge/experiance willing to help but if you post your question in the wrong forum then it might not be seen by those peeps that are the experts in there "field"...and as far as resurch, this is the best place on the net to do it the problem is peeps come on here and expect a spoonfeeding of all the information they are looking foor without actually taking the time to learn this stuff for themselves...wouldent you rather see someone if there really serious about this shit learn from themselves then trust some randome dude on the internet?... this is an educational forum...just saying..

[Honkey_Kong]

but hey honkey kong... thanks for the info on hitting a vein... ive always aspirated and made sure to never shoot if i was in one so i wouldnt know the feeling

I've always aspirated, but there were a few times where I must've knicked a vein while going in and eventhough there was no blood when i pulled back on the syringe, I ended up in a bad coughing fit when I shot all the gear in.