New to HRT. This is what the Dr prescribed.

[AZPete]

So I'll skip the intro and ask for you to dissect my "cycle" as prescribed. Please let me know what to expect.

Semorelin 300mcg's M-F
Testosterone Cypionate 1 ml/200 twice a week
MIC 1ml twice a week
HCG 500 Units twice a week
Anastrozole 1 mg tablet twice a week.

What should I expect and how should I feel. I start tomorrow morning. It's a 10 week regimen then the doctor is going to redo blood work and go from there. My free testosterone level was 9.1 and total testosterone was 384. I am a 36 year old male. In good health overall.

[LT75]

Total of 2ml/400mg a week is a high trt dose.

[MickeyKnox]

your dr prescribed you an beginners anabolic cycle? 400mg cyp/wk? i wish i had your dr. i'd be doing half of that and saving the other half

[AZPete]

I'm not the doctor. Not trying to be a roid head. Just what he prescribed. Still looking for some insight as what to expect from this regimen.

[MickeyKnox]

^^ hard to say without your stats, exercise, and diet regimes.

btw , welcome to the board.

[bass]

In the short term you'll feel great then you'll feel like crap shortly after. Like Mickey said, your doctor prescribed a cycle (like you called it) not a TRT protocol. If you have prior BW please post it all with ranges so we can see if your doc knows what he's doing.

[HEVEW8]

HRT is not about cycling...??? I'm on my 5th week of TRT. My Doc started me on 175mg per wk, and dropped me down to 100mg a week after I started noticing testicular aching... Still waiting on blood work... From what I have read, your dose is anabolic.... Hope it works out for you, welcome to the site. Curious to read what the veteran's have to say.

[APIs]

What Bass said. You'll feel great for awhile, but that's too high a dose starting out & for long-term treatment. Does your Doc have any experience in TRT? A typical dose for starting out is 100 mgs per week and adjusting from there after BW @ 6-8 weeks. Your Total Test levels will likely exceed >2,000 which is not ideal for TRT. Anyway, your Doc should recognize this after BW at the 10 week mark like you stated. He seems to have given you a decent dose of Anastrazole to control Estrogen, but you might want to take it in .5 mg increments spread over the week.

[AZPete]

6'1 244 pounds runner that cannot burn belly fat. Have been suffering symptoms of low T for about 8 years. Finally tested in May by PC physician that stated I was perfectly normal. Got my results from doctor and sent them to an anti aging clinician that agreed that my PSA was perfect at .7. Cholesterol was better than perfect. But that my total testosterone and free testosterone was very low at 384 and 9.1 respectively. I've had years of no strength and sluggishness. Low to no libido. I didn't ask for an anabolic cycle nor meant to call it a cycle. I just meant that its a 10 week protocol with a complete blood work recheck to follow then a reassessment of TRT. I did use anabolic steroids in 2003 which I believe caused my current conditions and years of symptoms.

[APIs]

"Anti Aging" clinic says a lot. Now I understand the dosing, lol. Believe us; many of these clinics do not follow proper medical protocol for TRT. Definitely read-up on this site and ask a lot of questions once you receive your next BW results. You'll def get your libido back in the short term, but it will likely suffer again @ those Test levels after 10 weeks. I'm about your size @ 255 currently. 6'1 @ 244 isn’t bad if you build up a decent percentage of muscle mass...

[jwws9999]

just curious, why does your drive go down at these levels

[fit2bOld]

Pretty high on the prescribed test, curious to see the test result in 10 weeks....

[AZPete]

Ok. Anyone have any insight or experience with the sermorelin. Hcg etc.

[bass]

Everything you need to know about hCG is in the sticky in this section.

[kelkel]

So I'll skip the intro and ask for you to dissect my "cycle" as prescribed. Please let me know what to expect.

Semorelin 300mcg's M-F
Testosterone Cypionate 1 ml/200 twice a week
MIC 1ml twice a week
HCG 500 Units twice a week
Anastrozole 1 mg tablet twice a week.

What should I expect and how should I feel. I start tomorrow morning. It's a 10 week regimen then the doctor is going to redo blood work and go from there. My free testosterone level was 9.1 and total testosterone was 384. I am a 36 year old male. In good health overall.

Honestly, I wouldn't start this until you see a competent doctor who can analyze complete BW and determine why you are low and see if it's fixable first. Like the guys stated above, it's a clinic. They want your money and the more product they sell the higher the profit. Business plain and simple. Re-evaluate in 10 weeks? Should be 4-6 weeks at the most. And after 10 weeks you will be pretty much shut down except for HCG helping a bit by mimicking LH production. Then if you decide not to be on TRT you'll need a proper program (pct) to try to return to your normal exogenous level.

Many things can cause low T such as being hypothryoid, high cortisol levels, pathologies, etc. Can you tell us what your LH & FSH levels are by chance? Most docs, like your GP, just don't know hormone therapy and either improperly prescribe protocols or are dismissive of patients complaints as long as they are in range. Even the bottom of the range. TRT is a god-send but no one wants to be on it if there's an issue that can be fixed allowing your natural production to return to a respectable level, IMO.

There's a sticky at the top of the forum called "finding a trt physician" that may help you if you decide to hold off. Personally, I would rush to see a better doc and see if you really need this or not before embarking on this "cycle" as prescribed. Way to much T as you've been told. Hence the high amount of anastrazole. (avg members amount here may be .25 x 2 per wk appx) Your clinic reminds of the crack dealer trying to hook a first time user. You'll like how you feel and won't want to get off. If dead set on starting and not digging deeper into finding out the cause, let us know so we can help you adjust things.

Re Sermorelin. Nothing wrong with it. Do you know what your IGF-1 levels are or are they just saying you "need it?" It will increase your body's own endogenous production of hGH. Basically stimulate it to squeeze out more.

As stated, I'd hold off and quickly find a competent doc. Wouldn't it be nice to not have to deal with this for another 10 years or more if possible?

My .02 and welcome to the forum.

kel

[AZPete]

Kelkel thank you for your reply and most of the others. I Came on here as a newb with questions. I'm not trying to use an anti aging clinic as a cloak for anabolic steroid use and abuse. I'm trying to feel normal again. That's my goal. To clarify. My doctor will re do labs at 2 months. I have 10 weeks worth Prescriptions. He wants to keep me at a testosterone level between 699-1000. I'm not trying to abuse it. I went to two clinics. And three doctors. I had multiple labs pulled. I chose my doctor and company based on the fact that its all he does and I can self administer. The other docs wanted me to come by for multiple visits a week every week. I appreciate all the feed back.

[bass]

try winding it your stroppy attitude pal. You posted in a HRT section, try opening your eyes next time

Exactly! From the attitude sounds like that's what he wanted, to cycle and not for TRT!

[bass]

AZ, trust me, we all want to help you, we are just trying to make sense of what your doc is doing. Some of your posts seemed you're a little impatient and that's why the skeptical reaction. Once you do BW and see the results you will understand why some of us are questioning things. It's all good bro.

[MyteeJ]

Hey AZ -

I have a similar situation with what I am doing and came to the HRT forum after being self directed this way from the 40 and gh forum.

I too was irritable (low T levels do that haha) and have received some great guidance from the group on how to proceed.

The upfront T loading threw me for a loop as well as I had no clue what ongoing maintenance would be. That's something that will be TBD in my case with the help of the group after BW.

My $.02 on what to expect - it was a bit of a shock my first 2 weeks and I have finally settled into something more normal/improved feeling. You can look at my posts to get my scoop it's very similar to what you are doing right now.

MyteeJ

[bullshark99]

Unfortunate it comes to this, AZ personally I didnt see the attitude, but no need to fire back the way you did?? Listen, my feeling is you are truely looking for guidence so my .02 would be exactly what has been said, very high dose to start with. Personally I would re-evaluate this (cut it in half) at a minium, and get Bloods done. Just remember, once you go down the TRT path, its for life. You may truely be in need, Im not suggesting you are not but I for one had to learn the hard way with "Clinics" now Im stuck for life

[kelkel]

AZ you'll be fine. Stick around, learn and lets get you on a good healthy protocol! We are here to help through our collective experiences and shared knowledge.

kel

[AZPete]

Thanks Bill. I am seeing that there are good guys on this board. And appreciate the advice.

[Vettester]

Pete, I will definitely look forward to your labs. There's a great sticky from Kelkel, "Finding a TRT Physician". If you get a minute, go through it and take a look at the labs that we usually try to aim for. On your baseline labs, do you have any additional BW that you can share? Curious with the LH/FSH, DHEA, thyroid panel (complete), and of course the CBC's and lipids, etc.

Other hormones upstream should be factored, and there's strong possibility that you would see other benefits with the additions of things like Pregnenolone, DHEA, B12, D3 (5,000iu daily or better). Your AI may not be necessary if/when you reduce you protocol dosage, as the conversion to E2 will also be more manageable. Many of us are also now working with our cyp/enath protocol by administering subcutaneously, which not only adds convenience, but added E2 management benefits as well.

[bass]

Good luck AZPete. You'll find a lot of good guys on here to help you. As a word of advice, just ignore those that aren't helpful. I do find it funny that several of those accusing you of cycling regularly "blast/cycle" themselves. Even adding in other compounds while they do it.

Back to your case, it would be nice to see your blood work in its entirety. 400mg/week is 4x where you should start by most docs experience. Even on the ai you will probably run up e2 and have a roller coaster for a bit. Personally is start at 100mg over two shots per week and 2x 250 on the hcg. Then in 4-6 weeks see where you are at and if you need the ai. Better to start small and smoothly get to where you're going.

we live and learn Bill, this is why we are trying to prevent AZ making the same mistakes we made. AZ hang in there man, if you don't benefit from my posts now you will later.

[SEOINAGE]

Sermorelin is basically crap. You can find modified versions of it that in conjunction with other peptides can have a positive effect. As for the dose everyone covered it already. way too high to start out on. Your anastrozole would need to come down as well. Might even be possible to cut the HCG dose in half to start with, and then increase later if needed.

[gbrice75]

Very well said mate...

x2.

AZ, stick around for a bit and listen to the regulars here. Kelkel, Gdevine, Bass, Vette, etc. just to name a few. They know their stuff and will help you get sorted out. I sense your sincerity and am sorry the thread went in the direction it did - but time to bring it back. I'm new to TRT myself, been on all of 8 weeks and from my brief experience and research can say without question that your dosage is quite high. The guys who called it a cycle were being somewhat sarcastic as basically, you were prescribed a beginner's AAS cycle. I'm certain that wasn't anybody's intention, but it is what it is. The good members here will help you get it in check soon. And for the record, I second the idea of finding another doc.

[AZPete]

Thanks guys. When I get home I will post my blood work.

[mixtnconfuzd]

looking forward to the results

[fit2bOld]

Lots of good guys here AZ Pete, everyone will stick by you and help you get dialed in....