First cycle, doin it right?

[warhog]

Hey everyone.

I have introduced myself here about a month ago and since my stats have changed a bit. My bf% was off, I was guessing from when it was read in the past, and I have gained muscle. I would appreciate any feedback just leave your ego out of it please. I am new to some of this and just want to learn. Thanks!

28yrs old
Lifting 8yrs pretty solidly
10%bf, 5'10", 218lb
bench 315 2reps
Squat 405 4reps

As my first cycle my focus of main concern is to experience the cycle to its full benefit and learn how my body reacts on cycle, during PCT, and off cycle. I want to set a good base of knowledge for future cycles. As far as gains my focus is on full muscle bodies and symmetry throughout, drop a little body fat with cardio, dialing in my diet and keeping it that wat after PCT. I will focus on maintaing low bf% after cycle with clen and and ketotifen.

Before listing my cycle plans I want to state that I have started an Anavar 6 week cycle. I am currently at the end of week 3. I am planning on starting the Test E 10 for 10 weeks immediately and run the remaining 3 weeks of Var through its beginning.


Week -1 Var 60mg ed
Week -2 Var 60mg ed
Week -3 Var 100mg ed, 50mg morning, 50mg evening
Week -4 Var 100mg ed, Test E 500mg split: 250mg Mon morning, 250mg Thurs evening, HCG 500iu split: 250iu Mon morning, 250iu Thurs evening, Arimidex .25mg ed
Week -5 Var 100mg ed, Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
Week -6 Var 100mg ed, Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
Week -7 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
Week -8 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
Week -9 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
Week -10 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
Week -11 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
Week -12 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed
Week -13 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed, Winny 50mg ed
Week -14 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed, Winny 50mg ed
Week -15 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed, Winny 50mg ed
Week -16 Test E 500mg, HCG 500iu, Ai .25mg ed, Winny 50mg ed
Week -17 eat, sleep, train
Week -18 eat, sleep, train
Week -19 through 23 PCT: Clomid 100/50/25/25 Nolva 40/40/20/20

Questions:

Is my HCG too much or would 250iu once a week be good to start with and assess from there?
To minimize pinning can I put the HCG in same syringe as Test E for single shot or will this not work for these compounds?
I have read that I can start the Winny last 2 weeks of cycle and run up to PCT, is this recommended?
Will the Var just 3 weeks before Test E screw me?

Thanks so much everyone. I plan on posting pics soon.

[Bio-Active]

Not sure were to start here? Your first cycle should be simple test 500 per week 1-10 and then PCT. You have to many compounds here. If you get sides you are not going to know which compound is causing them.

[MickeyKnox]

agree with jim. what are your protocols(1/wk, 2/wk/,3/wk?) for test/hcg? also what is your cycle exp?

[fit2bOld]

So your already committed to the Var.
Test for the following 12 weeks is fine at 500mg you can split it 250mg 2x aweek all the way through (you could have run the var and test together from the start)
HCG change to 250iu 3x aweek
Drop the Winny and save for another day,
Test is oil and injected in the muscle. HCG is water based and injected into the fat under the skin in the belly with an insulin syringe
Arimadex .25 ed works for me but can be to much for others
2 weeks after last pin start PCT as described

[warhog]

So your already committed to the Var.
Test for the following 12 weeks is fine at 500mg you can split it 250mg 2x aweek all the way through (you could have run the var and test together from the start)
HCG change to 250iu 3x aweek
Drop the Winny and save for another day,
Test is oil and injected in the muscle. HCG is water based and injected into the fat under the skin in the belly with an insulin syringe
Arimadex .25 ed works for me but can be to much for others
2 weeks after last pin start PCT as described

I will drop the Winny and change the HCG to 750iu a week. I've never read that about HCG over 500iu but if it is recommended I will, why is that? I started the Var early due to shipping problems. I figured consequences wouldnt be too great or too much of a waste. Am I dropping the Winny to better assess the effects of Test 1st time?

[warhog]

agree with jim. what are your protocols(1/wk, 2/wk/,3/wk?) for test/hcg? also what is your cycle exp?

I have taken Dbol at 80mg ed for 6 weeks 2 years ago at age 26 With great results and actually kept a lot of the gains. I am unclear about your question concerning protocols with test/hcg. I am dropping the winny.

[t-dogg]

Honestly throw that plan out. Go read our stickies on first cycles, AI's, and PCT. Then after you read all of them so you understand better post another cycle for us to break down. Again as of now, I wouldnt run that. Not good for buss.

[MickeyKnox]

I have taken Dbol at 80mg ed for 6 weeks 2 years ago at age 26 With great results and actually kept a lot of the gains. I am unclear about your question concerning protocols with test/hcg. I am dropping the winny.

i was looking for frequency. but F2BO has outlined some excellent suggestions.

[DigitalGorilla]

Minus the Winny and Clomid and thats my exact cycle...(and add sxome GH) .and im not giving opinions or anything but aside from too many erections lol i had great gains, no sides, and kept all my gains as well....

[fit2bOld]

Honestly throw that plan out. Go read our stickies on first cycles, AI's, and PCT. Then after you read all of them so you understand better post another cycle for us to break down. Again as of now, I wouldnt run that. Not good for buss.

I doubt at this stage the OP will stop, he's already 3 weeks into the var. So we help him safely get through the next 12 weeks of test and then PCT.

Agree this was not a properly prepared cycle...

[warhog]

Honestly throw that plan out. Go read our stickies on first cycles, AI's, and PCT. Then after you read all of them so you understand better post another cycle for us to break down. Again as of now, I wouldnt run that. Not good for buss.

I have read a lot of those stickies, not my first time in the forum. I belive I have the gear to set up a smart, well put together first cycle. I will drop the Winny. How does this look? Test E at 250mg 2x week with Ai .25mg ed and HCG 250iu 3x a week, all for 10 weeks. I will stick with the PCT to start 2 weeks after last pin for 2 weeks with Nolva: 40/40/20/20 Clomid: 100/50/25/25.

[MickeyKnox]

ai @.25eod not every day to start. start small and work up, not the other way around.

ed works for F2BO. but as he cautioned, it may be too much for someone who has not already experimented and determined this course.

and just my personal opinion here but i would run that 12 wks. its a long ester and you may find it's still stretching its legs at wk 10

good luck.

[t-dogg]

I have read a lot of those stickies, not my first time in the forum. I belive I have the gear to set up a smart, well put together first cycle. I will drop the Winny. How does this look? Test E at 250mg 2x week with Ai .25mg ed and HCG 250iu 3x a week, all for 10 weeks. I will stick with the PCT to start 2 weeks after last pin for 2 weeks with Nolva: 40/40/20/20 Clomid: 100/50/25/25.

Better. HCG is alot, 3times a week?

[fit2bOld]

I think you'll be ok with that. Diet and training will be the key to the success of the cycle.

[fit2bOld]

Better. HCG is alot, 3times a week?

250iu x3 not an uncommon dose. I take that as part of my TRT.

[warhog]

Better. HCG is alot, 3times a week?

F2bo recommended. Im curious about the dosage also.

[MickeyKnox]

ive done 2/wk and also eod (lower dosage). 3/wk is as common as any of the rest.

6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

[warhog]

Got it! Thanks a lot guys. I got overzealous in prepairing this cycle and forgot that sometimes you can do more with less.

[fit2bOld]

The smaller more frequent dose mimics the pulse of the LH that signal the testes. Keeping the boys happy and plump on cycle.

You will also find many other opinions this is mine based on available info and personal experience.