Blasting and Cruising While on TRT

[warmouth]

Lunks thread got me to thinking the standard protocol on blasting and cruising. I know what I have read, but was wondering how it would be administered. If I were to have a long estered tests, like cypionate, is the standart just 1 pin a week of 250mgs, or should it be administered 2X weekly @ 125mgs weekly? Keep inmind that this is just a question. AND TO ANY NEWBIES THAT MIGHT BE READING: I am on TRT and would never, ever consider doing this is If I were not on TRT. I am not talking about cycleing between cycles, as that would be too constant. But if I were to use 250 mgs a week, would a once-a-week administration be ok? I would use my cycle gear and not the prescribed gear to do this, as it is topical crap. It would definitely be hard onme to do it much more than once a week, but I could figure something out. Thanks alot!

[freddy1418]

Lunks thread got me to thinking the standard protocol on blasting and cruising. I know what I have read, but was wondering how it would be administered. If I were to have a long estered tests, like cypionate, is the standart just 1 pin a week of 250mgs, or should it be administered 2X weekly @ 125mgs weekly? Keep inmind that this is just a question. AND TO ANY NEWBIES THAT MIGHT BE READING: I am on TRT and would never, ever consider doing this is If I were not on TRT. I am not talking about cycleing between cycles, as that would be too constant. But if I were to use 250 mgs a week, would a once-a-week administration be ok? I would use my cycle gear and not the prescribed gear to do this, as it is topical crap. It would definitely be hard onme to do it much more than once a week, but I could figure something out. Thanks alot!

Id say twice a week to stay more stable but you could do with one

[fit2bOld]

As a fellow TRT pin 2x a week for a smooth level.

[LT75]

Glad I saw this because I am thinking the same. Difference is I get preloads from the doc which have been getting a little shorted in dosage. Supposed to be .5cc at 100mg. They have been under .5cc before priming, so around .35cc after. No wonder I am taking forever to get to a T level of a 1000.

Didn't know if I should add to the preload or take another shot 3.5 days later. Is it bad to add 2 separate cyp's in a needle? Is 2 shots ew better?

[Lunk1]

Glad I saw this because I am thinking the same. Difference is I get preloads from the doc which have been getting a little shorted in dosage. Supposed to be .5cc at 100mg. They have been under .5cc before priming, so around .35cc after. No wonder I am taking forever to get to a T level of a 1000.

Didn't know if I should add to the preload or take another shot 3.5 days later. Is it bad to add 2 separate cyp's in a needle? Is 2 shots ew better?

adding cyp to cyp is not a problem

2 shots ew is better to avoid peaks and valleys in your blood level

[marcus300]

You want to blast on 250mgs?

[ChuckEisenmench]

Using 250 to blast is a little low. Go 2 months on 100mg and then take 50 mg Dbol for 4 weeks with 600-1000mg test for a few months and start over again.

[warmouth]

You want to blast on 250mgs?

Marcus?! Cant believe you posted in this. I feel blessed! Well yes and no. The most I ever cycled on was Test P @ 100mgs EOD, but am onTRT anyways. My Dr is over70 and doesnt know the correct protocol for prescribing TRT. He honestly doesnt believe in it and thinks sex drive and natural lowering of testosterone is normal and all men will eventually face it. The problem with that is I started TRT at 28 years old. He prescribed me topical roll on, whick as you probably know, doesnt work for TRT. And dont worry, Iam going to a new Dr this week. Basically I was just wondering if 250 mgs of cypionate once a week is sufficient for me prescribing myself. I dont really want to "blast and cruise" in the since we are used too. I know 250mgs is higher than normal TRT and I was wanting that little bit of extra "umpph" in between cycles and to not lose much of the progress made. I know that is alot about diet and training, but a little extra cant hurt. I have asked my Dr about going on injections, but he said he doesnt believe someone my age should be dabbling in injections. How stupid is that? His nurse told me "off the record" that normal TRT doses were 100-175mgs once a week for the average patient. Thats why I thought @ 250 once a week I would be above normal, which in theory would help me with sex drive and gains, as well as everything else that comes with producing normal testosterone. Thanks!

[warmouth]

Using 250 to blast is a little low. Go 2 months on 100mg and then take 50 mg Dbol for 4 weeks with 600-1000mg test for a few months and start over again.

Man, I apprieciate your advice, but I feel it is not in my best intrest to do such. I hope to never do a gram of anything a week, and 50mgs of Dbol is way more than I am comfortable with taking. IF I were to ever use Dbol, I would stick with 30mgs for 4 weeks to kick start, but probably never will. I am a firm believer that test is best, and for me, thats what Ill probably always use. I might test the waters with tren one day, but I am perfectly fine with testosterone, as I can use it for bulking, cutting, sex, mood, overall well-being. As for you and your picture, I can tell that stuff has worked for you, I am just scarred of tinkering with alot of stuff I have never used.

[warmouth]

Really?

[havanakid]

Hey buddy from personal experience I can tell you that 250mg should be fine.Yes if you split it it will keep you a ltttle more leveled but if you choose to do just the one shot of 250mg you should be fine.A little a-dex would be good to use unless youve never had any sides with a dosage like that but always good to have on hand and of course if you can get our hands on some hcg even better.200-250 a week will be great.

[havanakid]

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[Far from massive]

First off after reading more of your thread you need to not do anything right now. Since you are unhappy with your current doctor you need to switch to your new doctor and give him 6 months to get your TRT program and blood levels sorted out. If you blast now and then go to the new program and he takes blood your results will be all screwed up and he will have no idea how to treat you...actually he may realize what you are doing and show you the door!!!

So by all means get to the new doc let him get your levels and dosage sorted out then when you are at that point come back and ask for blast information.

[kelkel]

First off after reading more of your thread you need to not do anything right now. Since you are unhappy with your current doctor you need to switch to your new doctor and give him 6 months to get your TRT program and blood levels sorted out. If you blast now and then go to the new program and he takes blood your results will be all screwed up and he will have no idea how to treat you...actually he may realize what you are doing and show you the door!!!

So by all means get to the new doc let him get your levels and dosage sorted out then when you are at that point come back and ask for blast information.

Above is your answer. Very forward thinking. Check the link below and see if you can find a doc in your area. If not, check the sticky in the HRT forum for more search engines. Find a new doc. And quick.

http://www.a4m.com/directory.html

kel

[frank13]

Above is your answer. Very forward thinking. Check the link below and see if you can find a doc in your area. If not, check the sticky in the HRT forum for more search engines. Find a new doc. And quick.

http://www.a4m.com/directory.html

kel

so all these docs are hrt doctors?

[warmouth]

Great advice from you all! I apprieciate it! I have been using my UGL cypionate for a few weeks, but only 125mgs per week. You you think that will affectmy Dr appointment if I go this week, being that I am prescribed the topical roll on testosterone? I stopped using the roll on because it doesnt work, so I have been pinning 125mgs every monday, and it is workingmuch,much better than the roll on. Thanks again for all the help!

[havanakid]

At first I though that you were goin to just do this on your own without seeing a doctor but now I see what Far from Massive is saying and it makes sense.If your levels are too high then your new doc is not gonna treat you.125mgs is not high but after your bloodwork it might be at a level where the new doc may not see it necessary.This is what I would do in your case and this is only my opinion and what I think is a good idea to do.To minimise the risk of him not treating you then I would go cold turkey for two weeks and then see him from bloodwork.You may not feel good for a little while but if you go there and your too high then it was a waste of time.Just an idea.

[gearbox]

Using 250 to blast is a little low. Go 2 months on 100mg and then take 50 mg Dbol for 4 weeks with 600-1000mg test for a few months and start over again.

Not sure where your getting your info from but 600-1000 is a huge jump in test. please be careful with throwing out advice.

[warmouth]

At first I though that you were goin to just do this on your own without seeing a doctor but now I see what Far from Massive is saying and it makes sense.If your levels are too high then your new doc is not gonna treat you.125mgs is not high but after your bloodwork it might be at a level where the new doc may not see it necessary.This is what I would do in your case and this is only my opinion and what I think is a good idea to do.To minimise the risk of him not treating you then I would go cold turkey for two weeks and then see him from bloodwork.You may not feel good for a little while but if you go there and your too high then it was a waste of time.Just an idea.

I was thinkning about doing it onmy ownafter I got BW. I fear mylevels are slightly elevated since I have been used 125mgs once lastweek instead of what is pescribed. I think Ill wait until next week to be sure and red flags dont go up.

[havanakid]

I was thinkning about doing it onmy ownafter I got BW. I fear mylevels are slightly elevated since I have been used 125mgs once lastweek instead of what is pescribed. I think Ill wait until next week to be sure and red flags dont go up.

Yeah most def.Better safe than sorry.Keep me updated bud.

[600@50]

At 125mg a week you're most likely going to have t levels higher than on any topical gel. If the new doc sees the script for the gel and elevated t levels he should be able to figure out you're doing something different. To get the most accurate bw why not go back on the gel for 4-6 weeks then the doc will get accurate bw results. If you come back with low t you should be able to get the cyp or e script. Then decide on your blast and cruise.

[Honkey_Kong]

Great advice from you all! I apprieciate it! I have been using my UGL cypionate for a few weeks, but only 125mgs per week. You you think that will affectmy Dr appointment if I go this week, being that I am prescribed the topical roll on testosterone? I stopped using the roll on because it doesnt work, so I have been pinning 125mgs every monday, and it is workingmuch,much better than the roll on. Thanks again for all the help!

Stop taking the UGL and stick to your topical for like 4-6 weeks. If finding a doctor that switches you to injectables is difficult, you can always go to a TRT clinic and continue your treatment there. Regardless, they're going to be doing a lot of bloodwork for a while until they see you're stable. And even after that, they will periodically give you more blood work. So you're better off waiting to do any massive doses than doing them now and fvcking everything up.

[kelkel]

so all these docs are hrt doctors?

They specialize in life extension, anti-aging, regenerative medicine (TRT) and have to go through specialized training to receive the cert.

http://www.a4m.com/certifications-ho...fications.html