My M.D. said...

[s.e.bowen]

I just finished up a cycle of sust. and started pct last week. Today I met with my doc to get some labs drawn.
I explained that I'd just finished up a cycle of test and that I started pct as follows:
Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
She (my doc) says: "Stop those meds at once!" She said they're not for men.
I then shared with her the information/ knowledge that I've gleaned from this as well as other sites.
She then admitted it was outside of her scope of knowledge, sent me for bloodwork and made an appointment for me with an endocrinologist.
Just for the record I'm not stoping pct.
Anyone had this recommendation from their doc before?

s.e.bowen

[MuscleInk]

I just finished up a cycle of sust. and started pct last week. Today I met with my doc to get some labs drawn.
I explained that I'd just finished up a cycle of test and that I started pct as follows:
Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
She (my doc) says: "Stop those meds at once!" She said they're not for men.
I then shared with her the information/ knowledge that I've gleaned from this as well as other sites.
She then admitted it was outside of her scope of knowledge, sent me for bloodwork and made an appointment for me with an endocrinologist.
Just for the record I'm not stoping pct.
Anyone had this recommendation from their doc before?

s.e.bowen

Rarely a good idea to admit to a healthcare provider that you've self administered steroids, SERMs and AIs. All controlled compounds. This will likely be in your permanent medical record and could hurt you down the road if you required new or supplemental insurance.

The reality is, the majority of MDs, endocrinologists included, know very little about anabolic compounds other than the risks. A few of my colleagues are endocrinologists and they wouldn't even know what Sustanon, primobolan, or trenbolone was if I put it in their hands!

[kelkel]

Exactly what MI said. Most people motivated to enhance their knowledge of AAS will know more than their doc's in a very short time, in most cases. It's unfortunate but true.

[s.e.bowen]

Thanks MI. I was a little hesitant about being completely honest, not knowing how the doc would then treat me. Bit I figured if she's ordering labs then I should let her know what's going on with me so she could order the right tests.
Oh well....

s.e.bowen

[auswest]

Why get blood test while in pct?

[s.e.bowen]

Why get blood test while in pct?

Just curious. I feel pretty good considering I'm shut down.

s.e.bowen

[OdinsOtherSon]

Rarely a good idea to admit to a healthcare provider that you've self administered steroids, SERMs and AIs. All controlled compounds. This will likely be in your permanent medical record and could hurt you down the road if you required new or supplemental insurance.

The reality is, the majority of MDs, endocrinologists included, know very little about anabolic compounds other than the risks. A few of my colleagues are endocrinologists and they wouldn't even know what Sustanon, primobolan, or trenbolone was if I put it in their hands!

So much for privacy laws.

[MuscleInk]

So much for privacy laws.

When it comes to banned/controlled/illegal substances, many docs will record it in a hx but reporting to authorities becomes a different matter. My PCP knows of my use but we share a professional courtesy of understanding that many patient-docs won't have. Although, make no doubt, if my use challenged my health in dramatic ways, my PCP would have no problem giving me an ultimatum!

Many assume that patient-doctor privileges supersede anything else, but as medical practitioners our mantra and medical oath is "to do no harm" and that extends to protecting the well being of the patient even if it means preventing or reporting use of substances that may incur long term damage psychologically and/or physiologically.

Admittedly, it is subjective and a gray area and I submit that each doc must handle the issues with care and sensitivity.

[OdinsOtherSon]

When it comes to banned/controlled/illegal substances, many docs will record it in a hx but reporting to authorities becomes a different matter. My PCP knows of my use but we share a professional courtesy of understanding that many patient-docs won't have. Although, make no doubt, if my use challenged my health in dramatic ways, my PCP would have no problem giving me an ultimatum!

Many assume that patient-doctor privileges supersede anything else, but as medical practitioners our mantra and medical oath is "to do no harm" and that extends to protecting the well being of the patient even if it means preventing or reporting use of substances that may incur long term damage psychologically and/or physiologically.

Admittedly, it is subjective and a gray area and I submit that each doc must handle the issues with care and sensitivity.

Makes sense. Thanks MI!