Is this a standard 3rd Cycle thoughts?

[werms]

Stats
29 5'9 197
12.8% bf (training 7+ years)
(Diet Eat lots and lots of Wholesome food)
Goal add 12-15lbs lean


First Cycle was
500mg TestE 1-12 (250mg 2x a week)
35mg dbol 1-6 (ed)
500iu hcg w 3-14 (250iu 2x a week)
10mg stane eod
PCT
wk 1-6 Tamox 20mg/ED (40mg/ED week 1)
wk 1-6 Clomid 25mg/ED (50mg/ED week 1)
(Liv 52)(Milk Thistle)(Vita C 2g) ed

2nd Cycle was
750mg TestE 1-12 (2x 325mg weekly)
50mg ed dbol 1-6
250iu hcg 3-14 (2x weekly)
10mg stane eod
PCT
wk 1-6 Tamox 20mg/ED (40mg/ED week 1)
wk 1-6 Clomid 25mg/ED (50mg/ED week 1)
(Liv 52)(Milk Thistle)(Vita C 2g) ed

3rd Cycle Planned?
1-12 Test-E 750mg (2x 375mg weekly 1.5ml per 1ml 250mg)
1-12 Deca 400mg (2x 200mg weekly)
1-6 dbol 50mg ed
3-14 (HCG 250IU) (2x weekly)
10mg Stane eod
PCT
wk 1-6 Tamox 20mg/ED (40mg/ED week 1)
wk 1-6 Clomid 25mg/ED (50mg/ED week 1)
(Liv 52)(Milk Thistle)(Vita C 2g)


Should I add anything to 3rd Cycle?

[austinite]

Hmmmm.

Why 750 with the test? Test/Deca @ 500/300 is typically plenty.

I'd run HCG week 1 to 12.

Why clomid and nolva on cycle??? I would only use nolva if gyno presents itself. Keep those for PCT

Have u checked your E levels on previous cycles?

Your stats look good and your goals are realistic.

[Lunk1]

Looks good...where you happy with the other 2 cycles. Did they not work for you? Why the different protocol..just experimenting??

[Lunk1]

Hmmmm.

Why 750 with the test? Test/Deca @ 500/300 is typically plenty.

I'd run HCG week 1 to 12.

Why clomid and nolva on cycle??? I would only use nolva if gyno presents itself. Keep those for PCT

Have u checked your E levels on previous cycles?

Your stats look good and your goals are realistic.

I assumed he meant 1-6 of his PCT...you know me and my damn assumptions.

[werms]

I assumed he meant 1-6 of his PCT...you know me and my damn assumptions.

Yes,

PCT is always based on Ester running out

[werms]

Hmmmm.

Why 750 with the test? Test/Deca @ 500/300 is typically plenty.

I'd run HCG week 1 to 12.

Why clomid and nolva on cycle??? I would only use nolva if gyno presents itself. Keep those for PCT

Have u checked your E levels on previous cycles?

Your stats look good and your goals are realistic.

1st Cycle I didn't feel 500mg was enough.
2nd cycle 750mg was perfect for me. (using sides and growth as baseline)

3rd Cycle? I never ran test and deca together so should I lower test?

[Lunk1]

Yes,

PCT is always based on Ester running out

I think 4 weeks of PCT is plenty...

I do like your expectations as well..very realistic? Most of this will rreally depend on that diet. You should consider posting your diet in the nutrition forum for critique

[DanB]

i assume you mean 375mg x2 week not 325 if your looking for 750mg, just a error in the maths yeah? im the same lol

only change i would make is to throw the milk thistle in the bin, take it if you like but done expect it to do anything

apart from that it looks fine to me, nice and simple i like it

enjoy!

[austinite]

Yes,

PCT is always based on Ester running out

Aah. That makes sense Got confused with the layout.

[austinite]

1st Cycle I didn't feel 500mg was enough.
2nd cycle 750mg was perfect for me. (using sides and growth as baseline)

3rd Cycle? I never ran test and deca together so should I lower test?

No. If you already know how you react to test @ 750, then you will be fine. Test/Deca combo wasnt my concern. I failed to look at your second cycle.

[werms]

i assume you mean 375mg x2 week not 325 if your looking for 750mg, just a error in the maths yeah? im the same lol

only change i would make is to throw the milk thistle in the bin, take it if you like but done expect it to do anything

apart from that it looks fine to me, nice and simple i like it

enjoy!

haha yeah not sure what is going on with my Math last night. Yeah I ran 1.5ml per pin from 250mg per ml giving me 375mg per ml or 750mg per week.
The PCT I obtained from Swifto running lower mg's for 6 weeks. I have rebounded fine after each cycle.

Will deca increase BP on top of what a normal test cycle would?

[MickeyKnox]

just want to compliment you on three well thought out cycles.

proposed cycle looks good. and im similar to you in that i start my hcg in the 3rd wk on long esters as well. but i start it wk 1 on shorts esters. having said that, either way is fine, as Austinite suggested.

[>Good Luck<]

Would stopping deca and test at the same time produce any problems? Like deca-dick?? I thought test should be run 2 weeks past deca to outlive the deca and keep libido up

[werms]

so should I run Deca 1-11 and test 1-12?

Since Deca has a 3 week and test 2