Really confused! Do i need AI? For sust 350 cycle? :S

[I_Want_more]

Hi everyone, this is my second post to these forums my first was simply regarding which steroid to use, and about cycling and to see if what im doing is proper. Anyhow, im going to be doing my first cycle this wednesday.

My stats:
Age: 25
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 185lbs
Bf: 12%

My concern is should i be using an AI? I would be using arimidex(sorry if that is a name brand ill remove it if it is). I keep reading about people saying it is not necessary for your first cycle, other say you should use it. Well its down to the bone now, I' gonna start my cycle wednesday(2 days away) and Im not sure if should get arimidex and use it from teh start of my cycle or not.

I'm going to be doing a 10 week cycle with Sust 350 at 1000mg a week(split 2 shots at 500mg 3.5 days apart) My PCT is clomid and nolva. Sorry that im not getting into dosages and tapering info but ive already clarified all that. My only concern is AI. My supplier says i dont need it and will get a little bit of "bitch tits" regardless and to just put up with it. However ive read that you should use it from teh start. Will using Adex or arimidex from teh start of my cycle affect my gains in anyway? What are the pros and cons?

Please dont refer me to forum page as ive read a bunch which fight fo rboth sides, well i dont mind if you do, I'm more wanting to hear personal experience and opinions if youve done the same cycle or if you know someone who has. I'm worried about making a mistake and dont want to regret it. As of now im not plannin on using an AI unless i notice tenderness in my nipples.

Thank you everyone for any help. Again if im doing something wrong with my post please let me know as i apologize for my ignorance, im just very anxious to make sure i do everything correctly as ive read that preparation and education is key.

Sorry for the spelling mistakes ahead of time.

[MickeyKnox]

you definitely want an ai on cycle, but i would highly recommend you do NOT run 1gram of sust per wk.

[gixxerboy1]

yes you should always use an ai. It doesnt matter first cycle or 10th. Your body doesnt know the difference. When you have increased test your going to have increased estrogen.
Your source is an idiot. Just live with a little bit of bitch tits? Do you realize it could become permanate and require surgery to fix?

I dont know what you clarified as far as dosage and tapering. But you dont taper. Thats very old school. And 1000mg a week is way to much. Why put your body through more. have more side effects and spend more money on gear then you need. Some users never run 1000mgs a week yet you think you need it for a first cycle?

[Brick]

Hi everyone, this is my second post to these forums my first was simply regarding which steroid to use, and about cycling and to see if what im doing is proper. Anyhow, im going to be doing my first cycle this wednesday.

My stats:
Age: 25
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 185lbs
Bf: 12%

My concern is should i be using an AI? I would be using arimidex(sorry if that is a name brand ill remove it if it is). I keep reading about people saying it is not necessary for your first cycle,who are these people? where are this posts, DO NOT listen to them. AI is very important for your health! other say you should use it. Well its down to the bone now, I' gonna start my cycle wednesday(2 days away) and Im not sure if should get arimidex and use it from teh start of my cycle or not. yes you should start AI from day 1, if using arim use .25 every other day (eod) and if you are having sides still increase dosage

I'm going to be doing a 10 week cycle with Sust 350 at 1000mg a week(split 2 shots at 500mg 3.5 days apart)2nd cycle and 1000mg a week? I wouldn't go above 500mg a week. You're body is still VERY receptive to test, your AR will be active and loving 500mg. Why risk all the sides when only on your 2nd cycle. Believe me you will get great results off 500mg and if you don't then 1000mg won't change it, DIET is key! My PCT is clomid and nolva. Sorry that im not getting into dosages and tapering info but ive already clarified all that. My only concern is AI. My supplier says i dont need it and will get a little bit of "bitch tits"gotta love post cycle SURGERY if its permanent! Be PROACTIVE instead of REACTIVE regardless and to just put up with it. However ive read that you should use it from the start. Will using Adex or arimidex from the start of my cycle affect my gains in anyway? What are the pros and cons? the pro's highly outweigh the con's. They say that AI can affect your gains marginally, but it is imo absolutely necessary for proper health. You are PUMPING you're body with tonnes of testosterone, when test goes up your body reacts by producing more estrogen. When estro goes up, your sides get worse, if you are not using an AI to keep estro to normal, acceptable, HEALTHY levels then you are only hurting your gains in the long run. Whats the points in working hard in the gym, eating right, sweating it out if you are ashamed to take your shirt off because you have 'bitch tits'

Please dont refer me to forum page as ive read a bunch which fight fo rboth sides, well i dont mind if you do, I'm more wanting to hear personal experience and opinions if youve done the same cycle or if you know someone who has. I'm worried about making a mistake and dont want to regret it. As of now im not plannin on using an AI unless i notice tenderness in my nipples.

Thank you everyone for any help. Again if im doing something wrong with my post please let me know as i apologize for my ignorance, im just very anxious to make sure i do everything correctly as ive read that preparation and education is key.

Sorry for the spelling mistakes ahead of time.

see above!

[I_Want_more]

Thank you very much guys for your replies, I'm going to make sure I get an ai and run it at .25mg dosage eod! Phew thank god i was corrected for being wrong with the 1000mg dosage of sust. i will make sure to run it at a max of 500mg per week. As far as PCT i dont mean taper, it just slipped out. I'll be starting my PCT 18 days after my last pin of dust on my 10th week.

But please anyone who looks at this thread, continue to post any comments you have as ill be taking them to heart and love the knowledge, thanks again guys!

[AD]

you might have read these already, but just in case:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.UGpjXFGcSlI

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.UGpjhFGcSlI

[stpete]

As mentioned a couple different times, run your AI. Your supplier is dumb. And i bet your conversation went something like this "dude, to see real gains you need 1,000mgs a week. And just so happens i can help you w/that. Don't waste your money on AI, give it to me. You're going to get bitch tits anyway. So might as well go big!" Tell that jackass to get lost.

My first three cycles were test only 500, 600,600 and was happt w/the results. You don't need that much.

[kmms]

rarely good form to take advice from people who are actively trying to sell you something.

read swifto's AI sticky, learn to recognize both estrogen and AI related sides, get your BW done. nobody here can tell you what your BW will say, no one can tell you precisely how much and how often you'll need to use an AI. simplest thing in the world to have your BW done and then people here may be able to help you interpret the results and you'll sleep much better at night and be more confident in the choices you make.

[dec11]

if you've neva cycled before you most def don't need 1g, half is enough. Yes, use an AI, I wouldn't cycle without one

[I_Want_more]

SOrry for this post guys as yo umay think im crazy but i do agree with all of you after reading a load more, and also reading Swiftos posts asiandude(thx for teh dosage one btw!) but since im only doing a cycle of sust 350 and not stacking it with anything wouldnt a higher dosage be more useful for me? I'm perfectly happy with the 500mg/wk cycle and im going to be following through with that.. and hey it saves me money, but im just curious as why 1000mg/wk of sust 350 (without stacking with anything else) would not be optimal for a first time cycler. Feel free to bash on me as ive said, of course since its my first time as educated as i am, a higher dosage seems better (call it dumb**s greed) but i assure you ill be smart and keep it to a maximum of 500mg/week.

[gixxerboy1]

More isnt always better. Higher dose = more side effects
And since its your first you dont need more to see results. Stacking or not. My first cycle was 250mg every 5 days and got great results.
Think of it like the first time drinking. It only takes a little to get you drunk. You dont need to pound shots of tequila

[calstate23]

[QUOTE=gixxerboy1;6190891] Just live with a little bit of bitch tits? Ha ha

[MickeyKnox]

More isnt always better. Higher dose = more side effects
And since its your first you dont need more to see results. Stacking or not. My first cycle was 250mg every 5 days and got great results.
Think of it like the first time drinking. It only takes a little to get you drunk. You dont need to pound shots of tequila

actually, that's a very good analogy. i may steal that.

SOrry for this post guys as yo umay think im crazy but i do agree with all of you after reading a load more, and also reading Swiftos posts asiandude(thx for teh dosage one btw!) but since im only doing a cycle of sust 350 and not stacking it with anything wouldnt a higher dosage be more useful for me? I'm perfectly happy with the 500mg/wk cycle and im going to be following through with that.. and hey it saves me money, but im just curious as why 1000mg/wk of sust 350 (without stacking with anything else) would not be optimal for a first time cycler. Feel free to bash on me as ive said, of course since its my first time as educated as i am, a higher dosage seems better (call it dumb**s greed) but i assure you ill be smart and keep it to a maximum of 500mg/week.

i realize your name is synonymous with what you intend to do. but i can assure you, along with everyone else, that injecting one gram of test into your virgin body will produce a lot more than gains. and i can almost guarantee you'll be back in here freaking out and asking why you have this or that, or why is this happening or that happening - anything from bloating, to "bitch tits," to uncontrollable emotions, to acne, and possible very very bad that you may need a prescription like accutane..i shudder at the thought.

you obviously need to read more about the dangers of large amounts of testosterone taken by inexperienced users. it can be a horrible experience that isn't easily dealt with by taking a simple pill. the side effects could last a very long time and you will can be severely emotionally effected too.

i would do some thinking and re consider your idea. i think sticking to a standard protocol of 500/wk is the best advice you're gonna get. be smart, not a statistic.

[calstate23]

Hi everyone, this is my second post to these forums my first was simply regarding which steroid to use, and about cycling and to see if what im doing is proper. Anyhow, im going to be doing my first cycle this wednesday.

My stats:
Age: 25
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 185lbs
Bf: 12%

My concern is should i be using an AI? I would be using arimidex(sorry if that is a name brand ill remove it if it is). I keep reading about people saying it is not necessary for your first cycle, other say you should use it. Well its down to the bone now, I' gonna start my cycle wednesday(2 days away) and Im not sure if should get arimidex and use it from teh start of my cycle or not.

I'm going to be doing a 10 week cycle with Sust 350 at 1000mg a week(split 2 shots at 500mg 3.5 days apart) My PCT is clomid and nolva. Sorry that im not getting into dosages and tapering info but ive already clarified all that. My only concern is AI. My supplier says i dont need it and will get a little bit of "bitch tits" regardless and to just put up with it. However ive read that you should use it from teh start. Will using Adex or arimidex from teh start of my cycle affect my gains in anyway? What are the pros and cons?

Please dont refer me to forum page as ive read a bunch which fight fo rboth sides, well i dont mind if you do, I'm more wanting to hear personal experience and opinions if youve done the same cycle or if you know someone who has. I'm worried about making a mistake and dont want to regret it. As of now im not plannin on using an AI unless i notice tenderness in my nipples.

Thank you everyone for any help. Again if im doing something wrong with my post please let me know as i apologize for my ignorance, im just very anxious to make sure i do everything correctly as ive read that preparation and education is key.

Sorry for the spelling mistakes ahead of time.

So how misleading are your stats? Because on your profile it says your 20 which I HIGHLY assume is true. Especially with 1000mg cycle planned. I don't know why people come on here ask for help when they have no clue then for some reason they are still right.

For instance, came on here with bad cycle. Told you you were wrong. But now you just want results and don't care that we would tell you to ACTUALLY wait until your older....Because if you truly are 20 you are gonna fu*k yourself up.