Time for my 1st cycle.

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

1st cycle, have been researching for quite some time now.

Age: 24
Height: 5'10
Weight: 175
Bodyfat: 13%

My cycle will be a test only cycle and will look like this.

Week 1-12: Test Cypionate @ 500ml/week. 250ml pinned monday morning, 250ml pinned thursday afternoon. Will rotate pins from right glute, left glute, right quad, left quad.

week 1-12: Liquid Stane (AI) @ 12.5mg EOD

14 days after last pin: PCT= Nolva 40/40/20/20 Clomid 100/50/50/50 ED

Will be consuming 3500 calories a day at a 40/40/20 split. (pro/carb/fat) with 2+ gallons of water daily.

supplemets: 4 fish oil pills, 2 mens multis, 2 apple cider vinegar caps/ day

Training 5 days a week
monday: chest + triceps (light)
tuesday: shoulders + traps
wednesday: back + biceps (light) + forearms
thursday: legs + abs
Friday: triceps + biceps
saturday: off (cardio)
sunday: off (cardio)

I'm not 100% on the AI dosage, so any advice is appreciated.

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

EDIT: If I have some extra test left after the 12 weeks, can i continue the cycle and increase it to say 13 or 14 weeks?

I have 3 vials of test cyp on hand 10cc vials @ 250ml/1cc

[Trying-Hard]

HCG sub-q at 250 IUs injected 2 days after your test injections (to keep T levels stable) Do this from first test pin up to 5 days before you start PCT. Drop it when you actually start the PCT.

As far as the AI, grab some liquid-stane from ar-r (sponsor) and take 12.5 mg eod and adjust from there if needed. Take this from first test pin up to the first day you start your SERMS (PCT).

PCT looks good.

My advice is based on my research on this board and what I was told by some of the vets on here.

GL

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

Stane will completely cancel the estrogen wont it?

[Trying-Hard]

No, you are thinking of Letro. Here is a good read for you about Liquid-stane:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n-cycle-Swifto

[fit2bOld]

EDIT: If I have some extra test left after the 12 weeks, can i continue the cycle and increase it to say 13 or 14 weeks?

I have 3 vials of test cyp on hand 10cc vials @ 250ml/1cc

That could be your next go round......

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

So liquid Stane on Ar-r is the same as aromasin?

Also, if i dose it at 12.5mg eod, will i have enough for my 12 week cycle? even if need be to up the dose?

[gixxerboy1]

So liquid Stane on Ar-r is the same as aromasin?

Also, if i dose it at 12.5mg eod, will i have enough for my 12 week cycle? even if need be to up the dose?

Yes to both

[Trying-Hard]

So liquid Stane on Ar-r is the same as aromasin?

Also, if i dose it at 12.5mg eod, will i have enough for my 12 week cycle? even if need be to up the dose?

Correct
yes

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

Okay I will wait until my Stane comes in to start the cycle. Thanks for the help everyone.

Just want to make sure everything else is okay. (routine, diet)

[t-dogg]

Looks good. I would just save the extra test for the next round.

[gearbox]

change pct start time to 14 days and not 18.

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

Are you sure, I've read on some threads that its better to wait 18 days after cyp.

But I'll take your word for it. thanks!

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

Also is it better off to take the Liquid Stane @ 6.25 ED, as opposed to 12.5 EOD?

[gearbox]

Are you sure, I've read on some threads that its better to wait 18 days after cyp.

But I'll take your word for it. thanks!

not sure where you read that, but its 14 days or two weeks when running test e or c. it leaves system in 13.5 days if we want to get critical

[gearbox]

Also is it better off to take the Liquid Stane @ 6.25 ED, as opposed to 12.5 EOD?

no difference- I would go with eod

[cro]

i run 12.5 eod and have had no problems. i always break out during pct and after for a couple months on the back mostly but thats all i had happen,it happened when i stoped aromasin.

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

when you say break out, do you mean acne? and if so do you recomend i continue using the stane during pct?

[havanakid]

1st cycle, have been researching for quite some time now.

Age: 24
Height: 5'10
Weight: 175
Bodyfat: 13%

My cycle will be a test only cycle and will look like this.

Week 1-12: Test Cypionate @ 500ml/week. 250ml pinned monday morning, 250ml pinned thursday afternoon. Will rotate pins from right glute, left glute, right quad, left quad.

week 1-12: Liquid Stane (AI) @ 12.5mg EOD

18 days after last pin: PCT= Nolva 40/40/20/20 Clomid 100/50/50/50 ED

Will be consuming 3500 calories a day at a 40/40/20 split. (pro/carb/fat) with 2+ gallons of water daily.

supplemets: 4 fish oil pills, 2 mens multis, 2 apple cider vinegar caps/ day

Training 5 days a week
monday: chest + triceps (light)
tuesday: shoulders + traps
wednesday: back + biceps (light) + forearms
thursday: legs + abs
Friday: triceps + biceps
saturday: off (cardio)
sunday: off (cardio)

I'm not 100% on the AI dosage, so any advice is appreciated.

Good luck on this cycle bro.Its solid,simple,and with the proper diet and training I see you reaching the 200 mark looking thick as well as with decent definition.Post some before/after cycle pics.Take care.

[songdog]

Looks good Bro and its a smart thing to wait on your AI.Always have everything you need before stsrting your cycle.

[cro]

you can run stane through you pct . it wont hurt. i might do it next time.

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

Thanks for all the positive feedback and replies. As requested I will be starting PCT 14 days after last injection instead of 18 days.

Also I will save the remaining test from this 12 week cycle for my next cycle which will possibly be ~6-8 months after my PCT.

Final question in regards to the liquid tamox and liquid clomid sold from the site sponsor; My friend has used the PCT from site sponsor and told me that the taste is VERY awful. Now my question is, can i chase the liquid tamox/clomid down with say a bit of orange juice, gatorade or whatever?

Thanks again.

[gearbox]

Thanks for all the positive feedback and replies. As requested I will be starting PCT 14 days after last injection instead of 18 days.

Also I will save the remaining test from this 12 week cycle for my next cycle which will possibly be ~6-8 months after my PCT.

Final question in regards to the liquid tamox and liquid clomid sold from the site sponsor; My friend has used the PCT from site sponsor and told me that the taste is VERY awful. Now my question is, can i chase the liquid tamox/clomid down with say a bit of orange juice, gatorade or whatever?

Thanks again.

yes you can. I drop mine in and get bam drink some flavored drink like crystal light every time. I never do just water. I eat something right after also. even just a handful of almonds

[gearbox]

props to you on listening to everyones advice to better your results. we are here to make sure you run a safe and effective cycle.

if you can get some hcg I would run it. it helps a lot for bouncing your natty system back.

[austinite]

props to you on listening to everyones advice to better your results. We are here to make sure you run a safe and effective cycle.

If you can get some hcg i would run it. It helps a lot for bouncing your natty system back.

^^ x2

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

Started my first pin today. was going to do 250mg, but my friend accidently loaded up around 300-350mg because he is used to using that dosage for himself.

Right delt. Went smooth. My friend did the pin for me, he has been in the game for a couple years now.

Forgot to pick up an oral syringe today for my AI, but I will pick it up first thing tomorrow and start AI @ 12.5 eod.

[Jaxon0408]

Also is it better off to take the Liquid Stane @ 6.25 ED, as opposed to 12.5 EOD?

I'm on first cycle aswell Test E. I got Liquidex from Ar-r 30ml bottle and do .25ml EOD. Working great.

[BobTheBodyBuilder]

2 pins into my cycle, everything is going good. pinned my right delt first time, and left delt second time. both are still sore, but not bad.

did shoulders today, went good.

going to take my 1st dose of liquid stane tonight before bed. 12.5mg and will continue taking it eod until last pin. hopefully it doesn't taste as bad as it looks lol.