need help to recover natural test levels only 22, please read

[stevensmith.1988]

I am only 22 years old and I’m going through hell, here's a little background story to give you an idea where I stand

At the age of 18 when I began college I started using the college gym met some guys who offered me juice, with my low budget I ignorantly accepted the offer since I was a late bloomer, only when through puberty around 15, lacked confidence,
all the guys around me were having fun getting girls etc, so I done some poor online research ignored everyone who said I’m too young to cycle and went ahead to start my very first test only cycle at 500mg a week for 12 weeks when i was only 18,
saw massive gains and immediately saw more confidence etc,
off cycle my gains began disappearing and the confidence etc seemed to go with it, so I continued doing cycles to maintain this ignorant addiction, ended up doing 1 cycle when i was 18, 1 cycle when i was 19, 2 when i was 20, 2 when i was 21,
and one earlier this year when I was 22.
which makes it a total of 7 cycles, the first 6 were all the same 12 week test e 500mg per week with a 2 week clomid PCT.
The one I done earlier this year was a 12 week test e cycle with 400mg deca per week, i ended this cycle in February this year waited about 24 days and done a 3 week PCT of clomid, 100mg per day week 1, 50mg per day week 2, 25mg per day week 3,
Its now October which is about 8 months since i ended this PCT, since the end of this cycle I’ve had no sex drive, no motivation to go out and get girls like I used to, general tiredness, so I went out and done a testosterone test a few days ago,
my Total testosterone was at a shocking low of 56 ng/dl , I was expecting it to be low after 3 years of ignorant bashing on my endocrine system but was expecting it to be much higher after 8 months being off cycle, I am really depressed and in deep regret,
I have made a serious mistake out of youthful ignorance for superficial gain, compromising my health. I am afraid i could have possibly permanantly damaged my hpta axis and would possibly and I really hope not need trt for life due to this mistake,
my question is how do i go about recovering my natural test levels, i cannot currently afford to see an endocrinologist and would need as much positive feedback from knowledge members in this area. I am only 22 have a whole life ahead of me,
and I have pledged not to ever touch juice if i recover back to my natty levels until I’m at least 30 years old. I have access to clomid nolvadex and hcg which I know can help me recover butwould also just give temprorary help,
If so how would i go about using the hcg and clomid to at least help kickstart my natural production. Am i permanently damaged, what else could I use to increase my LH and fsh ? any help would be much appreciated,
and let this post please be a warning to all other young adults that when people say you are too young they have good reason, I made the mistake please don’t. My current stats: 22 years old, 78kg,
(lost about 8kg since my cycle began, also I suffered from pneumonia last month and completely lost my diet as well which made me lose gains faster) bf% 14 .
Thanks in advance
Rob c (using a friends account was unable to create a new one)

[t-dogg]

How long have you been off this cycle, 8mnths? What did the doctor say?


Honestly you may be heading to being on TRT.

[Sworder]

Try a restart:

2500IU hcg every 4th day for 22 days

40/20/20/20/20 Nolva
100/50/50/50/50 clomid after the hcg

Protocol is inspired by Michael Scally MD, google him if you want professional help with this matter. It's money well spent.

[stevensmith.1988]

Thanks will def look into that, yes its been 8 months.... wanted to give a final go at a pct or restart programme before visiting a specilaist which happens to be a family friend. If that fails i will have no other choice. Does anyone have any knowledge on triptorelin, its effectivness, availibilty useage etc ?

[songdog]

I would get some blood work done.

[Juced_porkchop]

Try a restart:

2500IU hcg every 4th day for 22 days

40/20/20/20/20 Nolva
100/50/50/50/50 clomid after the hcg

Protocol is inspired by Michael Scally MD, google him if you want professional help with this matter. It's money well spent.

I agree :-/

I would try a few things like this before jumping on hrt. thats for life man.

We should sticky this in the noob section so it helps others that don't want to listen

[The Titan99]

I agree :-/

I would try a few things like this before jumping on hrt. thats for life man.

We should sticky this in the noob section so it helps others that don't want to listen

No doubt!! I'm saving this link!! Could have used it on 3-4 18 year old know-it-all's this week. "I'm going to just do it anyway so quit being a dick and tell me how I should does my Tren only cycle..." One more reason I don't have kids...KAPOW!!!!

[Simon1972]

what size are your testes? have they recovered in size at all? definitly have a try at the nolvadex or i would reccomend aromasin ( exemestane) im doing a half hearted restart myself using aromasin and was on nolvadex before it and am feeling some pressure in my testes..so i feel it may be working - you have nothing to lose and its safe-maybe print out a study off pubmed and see if the dr will prescribe it.

[Juced_porkchop]

well i should say for me id say 500iu 2X a week for 5-6 weeks then the SERMS.
but everyone has their "way" of doing HCG it seem so its no biggie.
just dont use high doses for too long is what id stick by.

[Sworder]

well i should say for me id say 500iu 2X a week for 5-6 weeks then the SERMS.
but everyone has their "way" of doing HCG it seem so its no biggie.
just dont use high doses for too long is what id stick by.

1k IU/week is good to maintain ITT, to wake then testes up you need higher doses. Desensitizing won't be an issue with these doses for dormant gonads.

[SMcB]

I am only 22 years old and I’m going through hell, here's a little background story to give you an idea where I stand

At the age of 18 when I began college I started using the college gym met some guys who offered me juice, with my low budget I ignorantly accepted the offer since I was a late bloomer, only when through puberty around 15, lacked confidence,
all the guys around me were having fun getting girls etc, so I done some poor online research ignored everyone who said I’m too young to cycle and went ahead to start my very first test only cycle at 500mg a week for 12 weeks when i was only 18,
saw massive gains and immediately saw more confidence etc,
off cycle my gains began disappearing and the confidence etc seemed to go with it, so I continued doing cycles to maintain this ignorant addiction, ended up doing 1 cycle when i was 18, 1 cycle when i was 19, 2 when i was 20, 2 when i was 21,
and one earlier this year when I was 22.
which makes it a total of 7 cycles, the first 6 were all the same 12 week test e 500mg per week with a 2 week clomid PCT.
The one I done earlier this year was a 12 week test e cycle with 400mg deca per week, i ended this cycle in February this year waited about 24 days and done a 3 week PCT of clomid, 100mg per day week 1, 50mg per day week 2, 25mg per day week 3,
Its now October which is about 8 months since i ended this PCT, since the end of this cycle I’ve had no sex drive, no motivation to go out and get girls like I used to, general tiredness, so I went out and done a testosterone test a few days ago,
my Total testosterone was at a shocking low of 56 ng/dl , I was expecting it to be low after 3 years of ignorant bashing on my endocrine system but was expecting it to be much higher after 8 months being off cycle, I am really depressed and in deep regret,
I have made a serious mistake out of youthful ignorance for superficial gain, compromising my health. I am afraid i could have possibly permanantly damaged my hpta axis and would possibly and I really hope not need trt for life due to this mistake,
my question is how do i go about recovering my natural test levels, i cannot currently afford to see an endocrinologist and would need as much positive feedback from knowledge members in this area. I am only 22 have a whole life ahead of me,
and I have pledged not to ever touch juice if i recover back to my natty levels until I’m at least 30 years old. I have access to clomid nolvadex and hcg which I know can help me recover butwould also just give temprorary help,
If so how would i go about using the hcg and clomid to at least help kickstart my natural production. Am i permanently damaged, what else could I use to increase my LH and fsh ? any help would be much appreciated,
and let this post please be a warning to all other young adults that when people say you are too young they have good reason, I made the mistake please don’t. My current stats: 22 years old, 78kg,
(lost about 8kg since my cycle began, also I suffered from pneumonia last month and completely lost my diet as well which made me lose gains faster) bf% 14 .
Thanks in advance
Rob c (using a friends account was unable to create a new one)

Did you know what your natural test levels were before starting this last cycle? Just wondering if your low levels are the result of your cycling over the years or if it was the deca you added to your last cycle.

[warmouth]

Yet another post for Marcus to add to the list. OP, this is a great place for you to learn, and it seems you are getting some good advice. This is the best place to come for support and help. You may very well need to visit a doctor when all is said and done, but Sworders advice sounds like a great place to start and see if you can progress on your own. Were here to help and support, so know that. Good luck to you!