Test Cyp only

[Oubowtie06]

I was looking to see if running a Test Cyp only cycle at 500mg a week would benefit me in helping with cutting some chub. I got my diet in check and have been going to the gym on a regular basis for 2 months now. Have dropped about 8 pounds thanks to cardio 4 days a week high intensity and low intensity alternating with some light high rep lifting. This will be my first cycle. Also would a AI be needed or most likely need to have one on standy? i will run nolva on my PCT of course. it would be a 10 week cycle.

[Lunk1]

Yes a test cycle would help avoid muscle wasting while on a calorie deficiant diet. AI should be USED not on hand. 12 weeks better than 10. Nolva AND clomid for PCT!

[Oubowtie06]

Arimidex for the AI will begin use from day one and taken everyother day. Also why would 12 be better than 10? also why clomid and nolva why not just nolva from here i have read nolva by itself is better in all forms against clomid.

[MuscleInk]

In most cases, gains and loses are affected by nutrition. Everyone always says their "diet is in check" but in reality it isn't. Your nutrition might be stellar, but why not post that first for a discussion.

Steroids aren't far burners per se. Yes, they can affect metabolic processes and help with weight goals (gain or loss) but its not the ideal approach and could easily lead to water retention and bloating even with a test-only cycle. Add to this all the other side effects you would have to deal with and it makes more sense to take a closer look at nutrition.

I personally would not recommend a steroid cycle to someone looking to drop a few pounds.

[Lunk1]

Nolva is the one I would choose if I had to only pick one but they work on diff. receptors and compliment each other.

10 weeks is ok but there are still some good gains that can be made in that last 2 weeks...of a 12 week cycle.

[Oubowtie06]

Ran diet through nutrition forum already take a look if you wann,a jpowel,l tron, and stem hooked me up been stickin to it like flypaper.

In most cases, gains and loses are affected by nutrition. Everyone always says their "diet is in check" but in reality it isn't. Your nutrition might be stellar, but why not post that first for a discussion.

Steroids aren't far burners per se. Yes, they can affect metabolic processes and help with weight goals (gain or loss) but its not the ideal approach and could easily lead to water retention and bloating even with a test-only cycle. Add to this all the other side effects you would have to deal with and it makes more sense to take a closer look at nutrition.

I personally would not recommend a steroid cycle to someone looking to drop a few pounds.

[Oubowtie06]

Nolva is the one I would choose if I had to only pick one but they work on diff. receptors and compliment each other.

10 weeks is ok but there are still some good gains that can be made in that last 2 weeks...of a 12 week cycle.

Would you run them the same amount together? the clomid and nolva of course.
Would i just adjust the dosage to make it a 12 week cycle?

[Lunk1]

No..500mg 12 weeks

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

[Bio-Active]

Like Muscle said i would not suggest using test if you are just interested in cutting weight. Continue to get your diet and cardio dialed in and give it more time. You said you have lost 4 lbs already in a couple months. Just think if you wait another couple of months? at least wait till you hit a Plato.

[Oubowtie06]

start clomid and nolva 14 days after last pin correct?

[kronik420]

start clomid and nolva 14 days after last pin correct?

correct

[Oubowtie06]

Like Muscle said i would not suggest using test if you are just interested in cutting weight. Continue to get your diet and cardio dialed in and give it more time. You said you have lost 4 lbs already in a couple months. Just think if you wait another couple of months? at least wait till you hit a Plato.

Im not only interested in cutting only i mean its the basis of course but a little extra towards some muscle growth is what i want im by no means expecting anything crazy maybe some extra strength or some bulk. But cutting will be the major plus im looking for hence all the cardio.

[Oubowtie06]

No..500mg 12 weeks

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

so 14 days after last pin
75 mg Clomid ED and 40 MG of Nolv ED
then follow the 50/20 the rest of the way?

[Lunk1]

so 14 days after last pin
75 mg Clomid ED and 40 MG of Nolv ED
then follow the 50/20 the rest of the way?

Each number represents the mg dose per day for that week...

[Oubowtie06]

i thought so just double checking

[Oubowtie06]

Each number represents the mg dose per day for that week...

you reccommend running both for PCT huh? im learning still Lunk dont yell to loud.

[MickeyKnox]

Lots of solid advice above.

Take a peek at this thread when you get a moment, and it may shed a little light on your proposed cycle.


Most Common Beginners Cycles

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

[Oubowtie06]

so you agree with the clomid and nolva as well...where there it is thats the PCT lol. The only PCt i can get a hold of os from AR our sponsor. It offers the Clomid in 70ML at 35mg so per one c is 35 mg correct?

[MickeyKnox]

Yes ^^

[Oubowtie06]

1cc equals 1 ML correct so the on bottle of clomid would be enough for one cycle at least correct

[stpete]

You've only been working out for 2 months. And your profile says "not long" in reference to training history. You really should spend at least another year in the gym learning, eating right and make sure this is something you can do. You have no idea yet what you can do without AAS as you haven't even tried.

I suggest another year in the gym before considering AAS. In that year you should be here reading and learning.

Just not enough training experience. Sorry.

[Oubowtie06]

ill take you advice stpete no worries. thats why i was asking if it would help with my dieting and training i am not totally locked on doing a cycle but i will be asking questions about the cycle i will be doing in 6-mos to a year from now throught the forum. thanks again guys.

[MickeyKnox]

ill take you advice stpete no worries. thats why i was asking if it would help with my dieting and training i am not totally locked on doing a cycle but i will be asking questions about the cycle i will be doing in 6-mos to a year from now throught the forum. thanks again guys.

[Gioz]

sorry but if you have to cut because it uses text 500mg cyp? ok can go but keep the carbon under control and uses Nolva During cycle to reduce estrogen and use winstrol oral helps in hardness, definizone, and lower retention caused by text. greeting

[stpete]

ill take you advice stpete no worries. thats why i was asking if it would help with my dieting and training i am not totally locked on doing a cycle but i will be asking questions about the cycle i will be doing in 6-mos to a year from now throught the forum. thanks again guys.

That's refreshing to hear and really your best plan. You're going about it the right way getting your diet and training in tune first.

Good Luck!

[Fllifter]

sorry but if you have to cut because it uses text 500mg cyp? ok can go but keep the carbon under control and uses Nolva During cycle to reduce estrogen and use winstrol oral helps in hardness, definizone, and lower retention caused by text. greeting

Huh?

[Gioz]

better to use winstrol and Nolva During cycle to control estrogen

[MickeyKnox]

That's refreshing to hear and really your best plan. You're going about it the right way getting your diet and training in tune first.

Good Luck!

Im saving this along with my other threads that include successful conversations that led to preventing young person form using AAS.

Good job Petey.

[jpowell]

better to use winstrol and Nolva During cycle to control estrogen

are you recommending to use winny and nolva for pct?
or is the language barrier losing/misunderstanding words right now?

or maybe its a joke?!

2 points to the for recommending a hard steroid for pct.

[jpowell]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UK50FkKf_zI

take a look at this thread please. we def did not build up this website, giviing the misguided info you are proposing.