First test prop cycle + boldenone. HELP please

[Jayster]

Ok so I am starting my first test prop cycle in a few weeks. I was thinking of adding on Dbol as well as boldenone. My goal is to bulk up. What do you think of my add-ons? and also what do people think of ending mt test p cycle with a week or 2 of test e?

Here are my stats
Male
20 years old
125 lbs
5 foot and 1/2
Fast Matabelism
Have been working out on and off for years and will have over 3 months steady before I start my cycle
I am a little underweight as of now, due to weight in my stomach.
So before the cycle starts I will get back to my normal weight of 130-135

SO MY QUESTIONS!

1. What do you think of the add ons and any other suggestions?
2. Ending the cycle with test E?
3. Is this a good cycle to bulk up on?
4. How long should I make the cycle?
5. How much weight would you guess I could gain? ( I have gotten to 144 with protein only during my heavy lifting )

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

You're only 125lbs?

You need to not focus on AAS and hit the nutrition section.

[Lunk1]

5' 125#??? Are you in Jr. High???

[scorpion62]

Whats your diet like mate ? you really dont need a cycle , first thing to sort is your diet 56kg you have a lot of eating to do ,Have you researched what steriods can do to someone as young as yourself http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.T4GYbdkm_0Q

[Chx beach 79]

Either your diet is way off! Or, your thyroid could be off... That seems dangerously light... You might need to see a doctor... Good Luck!

[stpete]

What do you eat everyday?

[MickeyKnox]

Way too young and way too light. Sorry bro but thats the truth.

I think a little more reading and research would benefit you, particularly for someone your age. It’s best to know the complications and associated health risks that could affect you should you decide to embark on this journey sooner than later. A few more years to allow your developing endocrine system to finish growing and then perhaps look at using AAS

Take a look at these links and please read them. I think you will agree that they are both informative and educational.

Cheers and good luck.


The Young and Steroids

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UHBeIa7X_fs

Nutritional Forum

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...M#.UHNufa7X_fs

[Jayster]

I have a great diet, alot of protein amino acids, rly everything someone would tell you to eat. I lost weight due to not eating as much for a bit (personal thing) but like i said i Will be 21 years old and 135lbs when starting the cycle. so go from that please

[MickeyKnox]

I have a great diet, alot of protein amino acids, rly everything someone would tell you to eat. I lost weight due to not eating as much for a bit (personal thing) but like i said i Will be 21 years old and 135lbs when starting the cycle. so go from that please

Thats what everyone IS going by. You're simply too young and to skinny. Period.

I know that's not what you want to hear, but that's the truth. Wait a few years. And in the meantime, eat and put on some weight.

[marcus300]

Your 5ft? Which country are you from? Do you work in a circus at all?

Steriods are not for you, food, food and more food and start training hard and build some muscle. Steriods won't help you read the links above

[bigsiv]

Your 5ft? Which country are you from? Do you work in a circus at all?

Steriods are not for you, food, food and more food and start training hard and build some muscle. Steriods won't help you read the links above

Lol agree with Marcus except the circus bit lol bit harsh but funny

[marcus300]

Lol agree with Marcus except the circus bit lol bit harsh but funny

I thought it was a typo and he wasn't that short, sorry if you are its just my sense of humor

[Jayster]

At my size and weight I am considered close to slightly overweight when im at 135 so im not to skinny for it im where i should be im just not 6 ft.
if im too young I understand but ive heard from others it should work if i do one cycle at 21. So if im at the right weight just only 5 ft 6 inch

[bigsiv]

Ha ha ha ha my god I love the circus lol

[Jayster]

and i have plenty of muscle from years of lifting without steroids

[marcus300]

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.


I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.


I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.

[pitchindude]

At my size and weight I am considered close to slightly overweight when im at 135 so im not to skinny for it im where i should be im just not 6 ft.
if im too young I understand but ive heard from others it should work if i do one cycle at 21. So if im at the right weight just only 5 ft 6 inch

No cycle for you. Just EAT.

[pitchindude]

and i have plenty of muscle from years of lifting without steroids

At 135 pounds.......dafuq is your definition of "plenty"?

[Jayster]

So you want me to be considered over weight before starting a cycle??

and 135lbs at under 5"6 without being fat or extremely wide just lean muscle and id say about 6 years of lifting on and off 3 years of serious lifting

[bigsiv]

So you want me to be considered over weight before starting a cycle??

and 135lbs at under 5"6 with being fat just lean muscle and id say about 6 years of lifting on and off 3 years of serious lifting

Can you post a picture and we will tell you if your at normal weight, or have muscle/definition ?

[pitchindude]

If you keep your bf% in check your weight won't make much difference.

[Jayster]

Yes I have some muscle definition, and look at a height/weight ratio chart im at the proper weight considered to one of those i beleive it was 126-145 maybe based on if your small medium or big build im medium build

[Jayster]

body fat 10%

[pitchindude]

You're putting too much stock in the height/weight ratio chart I think

[bigsiv]

You're putting too much stock in the height/weight ratio chart I think

Agreed^^^^^ it means nothing can we see a picture please?

[diabolicsoul]

You should listen to the advice posted and wait until you are a little older.

Keep in mind everyone, He's only 5'. I've read that an inch may give someone an extra 5-7 pounds due to the extra bone length, tendon, tissues, etc. He's not that skinny for his current height.

[bigsiv]

You should listen to the advice posted and wait until you are a little older.

Keep in mind everyone, He's only 5'. I've read that an inch may give someone an extra 5-7 pounds due to the extra bone length, tendon, tissues, etc. He's not that skinny for his current height.

5'6'' I read

[diabolicsoul]

5'6'' I read

First post he said he was 5' and half an inch. And this post he said he was under 5'6.

So you want me to be considered over weight before starting a cycle??

and 135lbs at under 5"6 without being fat or extremely wide just lean muscle and id say about 6 years of lifting on and off 3 years of serious lifting

[bigsiv]

He said 5 foot and a half..... Didn't mention inch then said under 5'6
I might have read that wrong apologies if I have I'm confused myself now lol

[qscgugcsq]

I got a friend 5feet 5 inch 140lbs with low bf He look lot bigger than me and I'm 170... So I have do doubt that you are in good shape even at this weight.

However... 20 or even 21 is a bit young... You will take a big risk by doing aas now. Maybe you'll be ok maybe you'll be on TRT for the rest of your life...
That's your decision but if you want to play safe, eat eat and eat. you'll be able to grow naturally.

If you choice steroid you must assume everything that could happen. You'll be the lonely responsible for what will happen.
And believe the experienced member here who regret the use of aas while young because they are on TRT for the rest of their live...
I'm not trying to scare you, but that's the sad truth.

[Jayster]

and by bicep is over 13 inches around to give you an idea

[bigsiv]

Picture,,,, picture?

[Jayster]

and I am done growing atleast height wise and what are the pros and cons of doing my first cycle at 21 just once cycle then another year or 2 until my nest one

[Jayster]

cant get pic up yet thts why i gave u my bicep size atleast