deca or tren ??

[hobnob]

not starting my 4th cycle for a little while yet however my source is moving away in a few weeks time so i want to grab my cycle when i can.
i plan on using 800mg cypionate along with either 600mg deca OR 400mg tren but i want to know the benefits from either one, which can potentially have more long term sides etc etc, the cycle will be a big bulking cycle and will do 10-14 weeks
so deca or tren ?????

[warmouth]

The test/tren ratio at 400/400 would be good. I have been hearing Deca could lead to more long term sides, but I am about to venture this same venue as you soon. I am too scared of trens nasty sides while on, but will be a compound used eventually. Good luck to you, as I am curious as to what some experience has to say myself.

[hobnob]

cheers boss anyone else got any input ?

[Sworder]

Go for King Trenbolone.

Deca takes too long to clear, a much weaker anabolic than trenbolone, and affects fluid retention in some weird pathway so your bloat is off the charts.

[Sicko]

I have never taken either, but deca is not even in my wheel house.
Tren however will be in the future.
Based on research and many testimonials both on this site and from assocaites who have run both compounds.
Reward is much greater with tren...

[clarky.]

Hi there im prety sure every one will say tren it is the king after all. I'v used tren twice with no sides and it was great but i was wanting to try deca for my next cycle but ppl say you get bad bloat but do you get good gains with deca ? it will be interesting to see wat the others say. What did you use in your preveus cycles.

[COJACK]

I'm running tren E and sus I'm only in the second week and I can the tren is kicking in. I'm getting more of a dry look not much water retention. Strength is starting to go up and the only side so far is insomnia on the days i pin and aggravation. It's controllable as long as you have the right mind set.

[hobnob]

i always thought of deca to be one of the safest steroids but seems i am completely wrong, in terms of gains then 400mg tren will give me more than 600mg deca ? i have used deca before at only 300mg and it did shut me down pretty hard but then i did make a full recovery and test levels came back up again but never tried tren

[songdog]

4th cycle and you want to run 800mg test? I hope this is a typo beacuse this is OVERKILL! 600 tops

[ROBOCOP]

Always ran deca,,,,,,,until I decided on test cyp and tren 15 months ago!!!! I had the worst sides ever with tren in the way of gyno! It was the worst it'd ever been and I was/am still struggling with it! Each to their own but tren isn't to be taken lightly. I do know guys who love it though with no neg sides (lucky bas@ards)!!!!!!!

[kelkel]

Especially if running Tren. Just don't need test that high. Let the tren do the work for you.

[hobnob]

is deca more the way to go around a 4th cycle would you say then as its seems to be alot more common in cycles too

[hobnob]

also with tren do you have to run equall amount of test or more to prevent sides like tren dick etc ? same principle as deca right ?

[Lunk1]

is deca more the way to go around a 4th cycle would you say then as its seems to be alot more common in cycles too

If anyone asked my opinion and gave a shyt enough to listen, I would say ppl should try Deca first before tren to see how they react to a 19nor. Obviously tren comes with it's own sides as well but the 2 do share some known sides and yet Deca is much more mild!

[champ14]

I did deca first with minimal gains. I heard it was great but didn't do to much for me. But then I switched to tren and wow I was amazed. Honestly I will always so test and tren. I had night sweats but just wear a shirt or put down a towel and problem solved

[Lunk1]

I did deca first with minimal gains. I heard it was great but didn't do to much for me. But then I switched to tren and wow I was amazed. Honestly I will always so test and tren. I had night sweats but just wear a shirt or put down a towel and problem solved

Consider yourself lucky...like Robocop mentioned. Tren cannot be tolerated by everyone...no matter what dosage or precautions they take. Thank god I'm not one of those ppl

[Firepal]

Yeah im just finishing my Deca cycle and I wish i used Tren instead seems like the far better compound without question

[SportbikerKid]

NPP seems like it would fit your goals. You might want to look into it!

[stpete]

Agree w what Lunk said and was going to bring that up myself. I'm choosing Deca over Tren next fall for a big bulk. I just don't need to deal w/tren's sides anymore and deca's a good compound for bulking alongside a nice big dose of test.

[marcus300]

I would pick deca if you haven't used any of then before. Plan and design the cycle correctly and you will see great results if your training and diet are in order.

[Perseverance1]

While I've never used either, I've read in the stickied tren thread that running test at equal or lower doses than tren works quite well. The principal reasoning behind it being that tren is 5x as (anabolic)strong as test, so 400mg of tren will be similar to 2g of test. Essentially the only reason to pin test at all is because tren will shut you down and you need test in your system to maintain normal bodily functions.

Honestly, the more I read about tren, the more set I am on running 400mg tren/200mg test on my next cycle.

Just my opinion, take it for what it's worth.

[OnTheSauce]

Isn't Deca harsh on veins and arteries? I swear I read a pubbed article about that as a long term effect. Ill never use it. Gimme the Tren!

[Allaaro]

I would of thought there be more love for deca in this thread. Deca is still one of the greatest mass/strength builders....some gain better with both compared to tren. It won't be as 'hard' of a look though as on tren usually.

I'd recommend deca a try first. Sure tren is awesome but I personally feel like its more of a cutter or a lean gainer cycle. If I want to get as strong/big as possible, deca > tren. Add Dbol and its party time.