Thumb Injury caused by Roid Rage? How Long Does it Take to Heal? How to rehab?

[MakeUpLostTimeFast]

I had a very realistic dream last night while on cycle.

Subconsciously, I might have had roid rage during sleep.

*It was SUCH a realistic dream that I punched my wall at an angle imagining that I'd punch the guy in my dream who was bothering me.

I'm fortunate I didn't break it because if I did, I'd certainly know it and be in a lot of pain.

I do not have a bruise on my thumb.

I have good range of motion.

I Just have a weakness there in my thumb.

AND:

If I CLOSE the thumb, as if to squeeze a tube of toothpaste to push out the toothpaste, I feel a slight weakness and slight pain.

It's enough pain to bother me.

This really sucks because like I said, I am on cycle, and do not want anything to interfere with my poundages and my gains.

(I did put tiger balm on the thumb), but I want to get to the root of the problem and solve it rather than apply a bandaid to the problem.

1) Has anyone had this type of injury?

2) How long does it take to heal based on your experience? (I'm 41 years old).

3) What do you recommend to rehab it? (For example, should I put my thumb in a bowl of very warm, almost hot water, and massage it?)

Thanks, in advance, for any constructive help.

[Soar]

Ouch... Funny story but I can relate lol. My girlfriend often punches me in her "sleep"..

I've had a similar sounding injury with my left thumb. Felt broken but it moves fine, got X-ray done and it slipped and moved a few degrees. Hurt for a while but such is life.

Yours sounds like it will heal fine. Could try sleeping with punching gloves on lmao

[MakeUpLostTimeFast]

Ouch... Funny story but I can relate lol. My girlfriend often punches me in her "sleep"..

I've had a similar sounding injury with my left thumb. Felt broken but it moves fine, got X-ray done and it slipped and moved a few degrees. Hurt for a while but such is life.

Yours sounds like it will heal fine. Could try sleeping with punching gloves on lmao

Thanks for your input "Soar." I've had a similar injury before on my left thumb. It was from pulling out rusty construction nails with a crow bar and something called a "cat's claw" which is a nail remover. The thumb joints get a lot of shock from such construction work using those tools (like removing nails with the claw end of a claw hammer).

That thumb injury took a VERY long time to heal on its own.

Joint, tendon, ligament injuries always take long to heal. Because unlike a cut, they're not exposed to air so they can't heal quickly.

I'm just bummed out and am feeling like "I can't afford another thumb injury," but one must think positive.

At least my left delt PIP is healing and was only pink and warm to the touch because I injected a high dosage of Testosterone into it and in a matter of 3-5 days it healed on its own.

At least, I have to re-double my efforts at anger management...and this is a wake up call.

Sometimes I play russian roulette with anger trying to feed off the adrenaline and energy it gives me.

There's a book on anger management that states that anger is just an emotion and it's not necessarily a bad emotion.

Anger is a defense mechanism that can motivate a person to change.

But it's like nitro gylcerine or dynamite = highly volatile, and needs to be handled sparingly and with care-- and...also... can be used for bad purposes, too.

I'm less angry, but need to be even lesser angry, (especially on cycle, I need to be like a Saint) because a person can't think clearly when they're angry...and it just snowballs into bad things...and even worse luck.

[jseek]

Suggest to play the price or rice game for customary 1-4 weeks. Protect/rest/ice/compress/elevate...
For protect and rest...where a snug lifting glove at gym and maybe around house so as to limit bumping and over stretch
Ice. 20 on....60 min off....repeat
I'm talking wet Icey sloppy ice bag and really freeze the sucker to all sides of thumb at once. Will also help to cool joint fluid if u cool in 3d....
Compress...glove will do fine
Elevate...best at night with / without glove for first week---sleeping on side...sore thumb top arm with hand up on pillow

I wouldn't worry about rom. Thumbs are easy to get going later. Best to immobilize or not move much as I feel you sprained it badly...and tendons/ligaments/joint capsule can heal equal to before if left alone in resting position. Constant movement defeats this healing process.

Anger..many thoughts here. But at the moment that you feel a rush of anger...attempt a couple times on your own to step back and analyze the emotion...Usually it is at that moment that you are thinking a thought that is opposite of your core belief system..and ur core belief is communicating with u through the negative emotion of anger that...quite simply...think a different thought.
Ie...your kid misbehaves and u just feel like decking them...but then again, truly you love then and they are simply having fun..and you might simply be best off to play with them...
Or someone cuts you off in traffic and you'd love to fire a gun at them...but hey...maybe it's simply good luck that they cut you off, cause now you are going slower and that cop just ahead may have been looking to give you a ticket...a bad thing easily got turned into a good thing....simply via a change of thought...and anger melts away...

Control your thoughts and you control your anger.
Meditation...10 min a day where you simply deep breathe and try to think of absolutely nothing is truly a life changer...

[jseek]

Sorry. Last post. Hopefully not too wierd...

[MakeUpLostTimeFast]

Suggest to play the price or rice game for customary 1-4 weeks. Protect/rest/ice/compress/elevate...
For protect and rest...where a snug lifting glove at gym and maybe around house so as to limit bumping and over stretch
Ice. 20 on....60 min off....repeat
I'm talking wet Icey sloppy ice bag and really freeze the sucker to all sides of thumb at once. Will also help to cool joint fluid if u cool in 3d....
Compress...glove will do fine
Elevate...best at night with / without glove for first week---sleeping on side...sore thumb top arm with hand up on pillow

I wouldn't worry about rom. Thumbs are easy to get going later. Best to immobilize or not move much as I feel you sprained it badly...and tendons/ligaments/joint capsule can heal equal to before if left alone in resting position. Constant movement defeats this healing process.

Anger..many thoughts here. But at the moment that you feel a rush of anger...attempt a couple times on your own to step back and analyze the emotion...Usually it is at that moment that you are thinking a thought that is opposite of your core belief system..and ur core belief is communicating with u through the negative emotion of anger that...quite simply...think a different thought.
Ie...your kid misbehaves and u just feel like decking them...but then again, truly you love then and they are simply having fun..and you might simply be best off to play with them...
Or someone cuts you off in traffic and you'd love to fire a gun at them...but hey...maybe it's simply good luck that they cut you off, cause now you are going slower and that cop just ahead may have been looking to give you a ticket...a bad thing easily got turned into a good thing....simply via a change of thought...and anger melts away...

Control your thoughts and you control your anger.
Meditation...10 min a day where you simply deep breathe and try to think of absolutely nothing is truly a life changer...

Thanks. This is good advice.

What about warmth/heat to the ligaments, tendons, and joints in the thumb so that there is increased blood flow there and therefore heals faster--because increased blood flow aids in healing?

seems like this is a 1st thumb injury for u--am i right?

if not, how long did ur other thumb injury, if any, take to heal completely--1 month, 2, or or 3 or longer? thanks again,

[lovbyts]

NO no heat. Ice only. Heat feels good but will cause more inflation. you just jammed it and it will take a week or so to feel better but ice is your best bet.

[calstate23]

I had a very realistic dream last night while on cycle.

Subconsciously, I might have had roid rage during sleep.

*It was SUCH a realistic dream that I punched my wall at an angle imagining that I'd punch the guy in my dream who was bothering me.

I'm fortunate I didn't break it because if I did, I'd certainly know it and be in a lot of pain.

I do not have a bruise on my thumb.

I have good range of motion.

I Just have a weakness there in my thumb.

AND:

If I CLOSE the thumb, as if to squeeze a tube of toothpaste to push out the toothpaste, I feel a slight weakness and slight pain.

It's enough pain to bother me.

This really sucks because like I said, I am on cycle, and do not want anything to interfere with my poundages and my gains.

(I did put tiger balm on the thumb), but I want to get to the root of the problem and solve it rather than apply a bandaid to the problem.

1) Has anyone had this type of injury?

2) How long does it take to heal based on your experience? (I'm 41 years old).

3) What do you recommend to rehab it? (For example, should I put my thumb in a bowl of very warm, almost hot water, and massage it?)

Thanks, in advance, for any constructive help.

Funny, but I hope you're a troll...it's sounds like you are fine...i used to play baseball with broken fingers, including swinging a bat....

Yours is NOT broken from how you explain...And really, you really don't even need your thumb for anyone workout...

For the most part any pushing movements go straight on my palms, I don't grip......In fact, it is better to lift that way with palms..You will put more stress on chest etc...Biceps curls, EVERYTHING!

You are perfectly fine even WITH a broken finger...And you don't even have a broken finger so you are even better off...2 weeks, you're good

[MakeUpLostTimeFast]

Thanks everyone for your help. The name's MakeUpLostTimeFast....so I get anxiety attacks and I am the opposite of a procastinator when it comes to injuries. I pounce on injuries when they happen after doing everything to avoid them at 41 yrs of age. I'm not as spring of a chicken as I used to be.

so let's just say that I am passionate about a fast cure and peace of mind...to make up lost time fast.

i can train without using the thumbs, it doesn't interfere with workouts--except maybe wrist curls...but like a poster suggested, i can use palms.

thanks again!

my thumb does feel a whole lot better now.

if i can help you with anything let me know. thanks again!

[MakeUpLostTimeFast]

Here's a good, informative message I got from username "Jseek"

I found it helpful so I posted it here for others:

Re: regarding thumb injury...thanks...and...
Originally Posted by MakeUpLostTimeFast
Thanks. This is good advice.

What about warmth/heat to the ligaments, tendons, and joints in the thumb so that there is increased blood flow there and therefore heals faster--because increased blood flow aids in healing?

seems like this is a 1st thumb injury for u--am i right?

if not, how long did ur other thumb injury, if any, take to heal completely--1 month, 2, or or 3 or longer? thanks again,
Thanks!
Injury wise, have sprained thumbs many times. High school, college sports, plus construction and downhill skiing....and they both still work fine...I'm typing with them now!

Obviously no injury is the same...nor are two thumbs. So my advice to you is to treat ur wall punch thumb as an acute sprain.

Initial injuries / acute injuries need anti-swelling control. Damage-minor or major-brings white bloods cells and other healing things to the newly damaged area to start the healing process...problem is, isn't called an auto-immune response...and those little white blood cells start to 1) clean up the damaged tissue - which in itself causes swelling and irritation, and sometimes those cells eat away (a little) into normal tissue making a little problem a little worse...after the cleanup is done...24-72 hours ...then the cells that start to lay down scar tissue work to reconnect and rebuild......

So you are right. Increased blood flow helps the above...but ice does better than heat in this acute phase...because ice slows down the initial swelling phase better than heat...that means less out of control swelling, less pressure (which in itself starves cells of food-and causes more tissue damage...
Plus, ice and heat technically do the same thing - by increasing blood flow...but ice does this in a different way...really really....if you are from
Up north or have ever been in a snow ball fight, after the initial 1-5 minutes of hand pain cause your hands get cold, your hands start turning beet red....that's because of your bodies neurological and reflexive ability to sense frost bite or tissue freezing danger and sending increased blood flow to the area to protect the cold area from cold...so ice cools the area slowly the swelling and chemical reactions, and shrinks damaged blood vessels (if any)? Which further limits bruising, and yet, blood flow still gets increased....win win win

Now after 72 hours or so when this acute phase is slowing down after an injury....then truly ice or heat become similar in effectiveness

And lets face it...heat is more comfortable than ice. And some people absolutely hate ice / cold. So to these people I say use heat unless heat doesn't feel good. But swelling / bruising may not feel good

Getting blood flow massage in the direction of the heart is good. Again-new injury means acute phase of healing...so don't damage things more with a deep massage. And don't adversely affect the newly forming scar tissue. Scar tissue is how everything in the body heals except for bone... Bone actually heals with bone. But thumbs are very mobile and so need the ligaments around then to be strong. So let the Thumb ligaments stay in neutral or resting position and heal. Scar tissue is your friend here. Yes the muscles may need relaxing via massage if in spasm but ligaments and tendons need to heal otherwise they heal in a lengthened stretched position and thumb winds up being overly loose.

More later...hope that helps!

[Chiselled]

I had thumb injuries from footy, takes a fair amount of time. Try strapping to stop it flexing to far from your hand