Tired and depressed on cycle

[Dtrain17]

This question was asked before but every situation is different. My first cycle of test E at 500/week with hcg 500/week and aromasin 25mgs e3d, I got to 10 weeks in and still had no results, just got fat from eating more. Diet was good, better than before cycle. I figured the gear was fake or underdosed.

Now i'm halfway into week 4, test E at 500/week, no hcg and using aromasin 25mgs eod - capsules, cant do 12.5/day!!(just started aromasin couple days ago).
So far, maybe libido is a little higher but honestly it's probably placebo. I feel so tired all the time that I missed the gym twice, when usually it's what I look forward to. I feel depressed, just sad and moody. So before bloodwork b/c the doctors never let do it if I say i'm using gear, is there anything I can do? I would assume it's my estrogen out of balance, but is there anything else it could be? Diets solid, I know how to workout, but no gains in size or strength either.

Help me plz!!! Oh and i'm 21, and I know I shouldn't be using gear. I'm 190lbs, maybe 11% bf is my guess. Thanks

[panntastic]

This could be down to elevated estrogen why your so tired maybe your caps aren't legit?
Or your gear is bunk and you aromasin is legit and you've killed you e levels?
One of the more experienced users may chime in about levels

At your age you should probably come off everything run a solid pct and get bloodwork taken by a doctor see if there is no long term damage done

[Shsm]

What UGL manufactures the Testosterone you're using? What UGL manufactures the Aromasin you're using?

Don't name the website you ordered if off of if you obtained it by buying it online, just the manufacturer.

[TheClinch]

Sorry to say at your age you wont gwt advice on cycling in this forum. You should stop using right now. Run a pct and get blood work done in a couple months to see how you have recovered.

Read the educational threads about the young and steroids.

Good luck

[redz]

Help me plz!!! Oh and i'm 21, and I know I shouldn't be using gear.

Listen to yourself and run pct asap.

[Bio-Active]

Run your pct

[Iron-56]

Sorry to say at your age you wont gwt advice on cycling in this forum. You should stop using right now. Run a pct and get blood work done in a couple months to see how you have recovered.

Read the educational threads about the young and steroids.

Good luck

Why should he not get advice? I think he understands the risks and is going to run what he's running anyway. Any 15 year old can sign up and pose as an older guy.

I think you received fake gear but real AI and tanked your estrogen. What other sides are you getting? Could also be in your head. Happened to me a long time ago- started using fake gear(no ai) and got really depressed within two weeks.

[ScotchGuard02]

If you've run 500mg/wk of Test E for 10 weeks and got no results, you received bunk gear. If you're using the same gear, there's a good chance it's bunk. Bro, if you're taking real AI with bad Test your endogenous level of Test could be really low. You need to stop what you're doing right now, immediately. Do your PCT. Two weeks after PCT do a full hormone profile blood test. Be safe.

[warmouth]

This could be down to elevated estrogen why your so tired maybe your caps aren't legit?
Or your gear is bunk and you aromasin is legit and you've killed you e levels?
One of the more experienced users may chime in about levels

At your age you should probably come off everything run a solid pct and get bloodwork taken by a doctor see if there is no long term damage done

This sounds very probably. Bunk gear and real aromasin. Both are very valid points.

[DigitalGorilla]

I agree....get off everything until you old enough. And in the meantime -- take b12 injections....they will help you IMMEDIATELY get rid of the depression and juice your energy back up.

[Dtrain17]

Okay well there's a bit of confusion, I was depressed before I took any AI, like I haven't been depressed in a while, but I was very tired, sleepy, unmotivated. The first lab used was 'nova apteka' im in canada, it's an 'okay' lab, but on the lower end. I got a ton of acne from it, but nothing else so I stopped in week 10.

This time around the lab is 'eclipse' - not bought online, if you look for reviews (canadianjuicemonsters.net) is basically steroid.com for canada. It's a very very reputable lab. I really think the test is legit, I have a bit of back acne this time around also, not as bad as before, and the AI is by Novartis. As an oral it should kick by now right? I actually feel pretty good today and it's 2 days after I first took it...so hopefully I keep it up and it's not just a good day for me.

I'll keep you guys posted, but I do know it's not fake test and a real AI because I wasn't using any AI when I had the depression happen. Thanks for the advice guys and I'm going to run it still, I've read all of the educational posts.

[GhostOfRome]

I myself get very very tired if my estrogen is elevated even with high levels of test. That's why I stand by the fact you should always use an AI on cycle. My buddy runs 750-1000mg a week and takes no ai he eats like shit, and sleeps all day. I guarantee its because of his elevated E2 levels.

[Dtrain17]

I know what you mean, it could be in my head but I don't think it is. The test i'm pretty certain is real but like I said, now I feel okay after using aromasin. Libido is a bit higher but honestly could be in my head.....so I gotta ask, is your sex drive just increased or anything else increased like you get harder/for longer or anything? And I don't feel too different but it's also only w.4.

[GhostOfRome]

I know what you mean, it could be in my head but I don't think it is. The test i'm pretty certain is real but like I said, now I feel okay after using aromasin. Libido is a bit higher but honestly could be in my head.....so I gotta ask, is your sex drive just increased or anything else increased like you get harder/for longer or anything? And I don't feel too different but it's also only w.4.

I would give it some more time, it's hard to say brother without proper bloodwork. I will say I get less wood when my estro is higher than when its in normal ranges that is a fact. I wake up every morning raging hard, when not in normal levels it isn't like that. I notice these things when I know my estro is high. Low energy, always hungry, loss of libido, no motivation.

[Dtrain17]

I think that that's it. I just didn't run the AI because why use it when my test didn't really kick in. I guess it sounds stupid but I don't feel gyno prone so I wasn't worried about that. And yeah, I came home and just slept for 3hrs, got up off the couch, ate, went to my bed, slept, got up and ate, then went to bed for the night.......fun day.

[Dtrain17]

Yeah libidos up but wood wasnt more so....lol. And the bw, i got it before my first cycle. Everything was okay, but then during cycle they didnt even check my E levels like i told them to, which was the most important. And then I went back and because my family doctor wont even give me bloodwork for being honest with her, the two next walk in visits I got turned down again. The girl doctors are all so against it....they wont help, they say I'll never have kids, and they're so uneducated. Like she said how am I going to control estrogen, I said an AI and she had no idea what I was talking about.
And then she said why is my test like 10x what it should be LOL.....she ended up just walking out with MY paperwork. So I said fck it, you can pay for the hrt through your taxes then. I wasted so much time trying to help myself.

[GhostOfRome]

Yeah libidos up but wood wasnt more so....lol. And the bw, i got it before my first cycle. Everything was okay, but then during cycle they didnt even check my E levels like i told them to, which was the most important. And then I went back and because my family doctor wont even give me bloodwork for being honest with her, the two next walk in visits I got turned down again. The girl doctors are all so against it....they wont help, they say I'll never have kids, and they're so uneducated. Like she said how am I going to control estrogen, I said an AI and she had no idea what I was talking about.
And then she said why is my test like 10x what it should be LOL.....she ended up just walking out with MY paperwork. So I said fck it, you can pay for the hrt through your taxes then. I wasted so much time trying to help myself.

should have told her what I tell people here in the usa. Why do I have to pay for alchys liver treatments and family abuse and drunk driving. Tobacco users lungs and cancer but I can't use AAS to help live a healthy life. hahaha

[Dtrain17]

I know, at least I'm trying to be healthy, it's a joke how they look at it. But an obese person walks in next and they don't say no to his bloodwork .... so anyways I feel pretty energetic today and not really depressed, it's still early but the aromasin seems to be doing something. The only thing is that the test isn't...so far.... no pumps or anything.

[TheClinch]

Why should he not get advice? I think he understands the risks and is going to run what he's running anyway. Any 15 year old can sign up and pose as an older guy.

I think you received fake gear but real AI and tanked your estrogen. What other sides are you getting? Could also be in your head. Happened to me a long time ago- started using fake gear(no ai) and got really depressed within two weeks.

The answer is liability....
Picture this real world scenario.

Some obviously underaged kid gets steroid advice on this forum and messes up his endocrine system.

The parent says what the hell are you thinking johnny?

The reply, I got my reckless advice from a forum that doesnt condone the use of aas by underaged people...

You finish it however you like. The point is we all have a responsibility here to not encourage people with potentially immature hpta to use aas.