I need some advice on Prop/Winny/Var?

[Winzolol]

6'0 - 210 lbs - 17% bf?
24 years old

Firstly, my diet is 100% clean, so either way I'm going to cut up more.
Secondly, this is my forth cycle.


-Test Prop 600mg/week for 8 weeks
-Anavar 60mg/ed for the first 4 weeks
-Winstrol 50mg/ed for the last 4 weeks

-Proviron 25mg/ed for all 8 weeks
-HCG 250iu/eod for all 8 weeks
*Do I need to run Tamox 20mg/ed as well because of the HCG?*

PCT
-Tamox 40/20/20/20
-Clomid 100/50/50/50

Basically I just would like to know your advice, maybe I'm missing something? Maybe it's too much? Just want some second opinions before I commit.

Also I have heard that you need to run Tamox at the same time as HCG. But not sure if I can run that at the same time as proviron?

I also have enough of Var and winny to run either for the whole 8 weeks. Wondering if that is a better idea as well.

[austinite]

Welcome.

4th cycle? Did you run HCG for your first 3? How old are you? Winny wont do anything unless you're already fairly lean, which you are not.

Need your age...

[Winzolol]

Welcome.

4th cycle? Did you run HCG for your first 3? How old are you? Winny wont do anything unless you're already fairly lean, which you are not.

Need your age...

Ran HCG on my 3rd only. I'm 24. So should I just run the Var for 8 weeks and save the winny?

[Euroholic]

Use hcg 2 times a week. And you need arimidex And post this 100% clean diet i dont believe you

[Euroholic]

And you dont need tamox on cycle get a ai

[Winzolol]

Use hcg 2 times a week. And you need arimidex And post this 100% clean diet i dont believe you

I need arimidex or isn't the proviron I'm using doing the same thing?

And okay 95% clean diet? I'm doing my best, I eat healthy.

[pavlenko]

if you ran test 3 times before you should know if you are prone to gyno or not, personally my self i dont run AI during a cycle which isnt the best idea probobly but i dont get puffy nipples or any watrer retention specially on prop. I think your cycle is fairly mild, proviron is a good idea. Arimidex is good to have or Aromasin.your PCT looks good for this type of cycle., i would try to loose some b/f while keeping that weight the same without juice, do more cardio and train longer I think its very much achievable without the juice/ GOOD LUCK!

[Winzolol]

if you ran test 3 times before you should know if you are prone to gyno or not, personally my self i dont run AI during a cycle which isnt the best idea probobly but i dont get puffy nipples or any watrer retention specially on prop. I think your cycle is fairly mild, proviron is a good idea. Arimidex is good to have or Aromasin.your PCT looks good for this type of cycle., i would try to loose some b/f while keeping that weight the same without juice, do more cardio and train longer I think its very much achievable without the juice/ GOOD LUCK!

Alright perfect, arimidex is on its way! Yeah I still have about 2-3 months clean before I start this cycle so I plan on dropping my bf% as much as possible in that time.

How much arimidex should I be taking?
And through the other cycles I always took 20mg/ed of Tamox. I thought that was necessary.

[Euroholic]

Tamox just blocks the e2 binding, it does not lower it arimidex lowers e2.

[MickeyKnox]

Arimidex .25mg EOD to start.

Your proposed cycle is in here..

**Most Common Beginners Cycles**

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

[stpete]

I would get some blood work done before i did anything if i was you. Secondly, as austin mentioned, your BF% is way too high for this cycle. Get it down to below 12% for best results from those compounds.

Can you tell us how those previous cycles went and what they consisted of?

[Winzolol]

I would get some blood work done before i did anything if i was you. Secondly, as austin mentioned, your BF% is way too high for this cycle. Get it down to below 12% for best results from those compounds.

Can you tell us how those previous cycles went and what they consisted of?

Blood work is being done in 3 weeks from Friday. Can you tell me what exactly I should be looking for from the results?

1st cycle - Test cyp 8 weeks
2nd cycle - dbol 8 weeks
3rd cycle - cyp and deca 12 weeks

Now I was told I need to use winny in this cycle to reverse a lot of the bloating I got from deca. My waist size expanded during the cycle, I was told that will reverse through the use of winny.

Or if that's untrue, what would you suggest I do?

[Alinjr]

Not to come off like a smartass....but who is telling you this???
What exactly are you trying to accomplish out of this cycle?
Are you trying to bulk or cut?
To cut you better loose some of that BF.

[Winzolol]

Not to come off like a smartass....but who is telling you this???
What exactly are you trying to accomplish out of this cycle?
Are you trying to bulk or cut?
To cut you better loose some of that BF.

One of my friends who has done a deca cycle, gotten a huge deca gut from it, and then reversed it with a cleaner diet and winny in his next cycle.

I am cutting during this cycle, not to come off like a smartass either, but not sure who uses winny and Var for bulking...

And the whole reason for cutting is to drop bf % isn't it?

[Winzolol]

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