Questions about Winstrol! and critique cycle

[Farid]

Hey guys this will be my 3d cycle, already did test e,dbol, etc. I plan on taking prop and liquid winny but had a question, Is Drinking the injectable liquid winny as hard on your liver as taking the tablets? If it is why not might as well take the tabs?

My goal is to gain more mass while shredded body fat.

Stats:
Age :23
Clean diet
Height: 5'4
Weight: 165 lbs
Bf: 12%-14%~

Prop 100mg/1ml(sat,mond,wed,frid) (400mg) EOD for 8 weeks
Winny 50mg/1ml (sat,mond,wed,frid) (200mg) EOD for 8 weeks


Start 7 days after last pin PCT
Weeks 1-4: clomid 50mg/day
Weeks 1-6: Nolva 20/20/10/10/10/10


Thank you!

[austinite]

Yes.

[Farid]

so yes to taking the tabs instead of drinking it? for the liver..

[austinite]

so yes to taking the tabs instead of drinking it? for the liver..

There is no difference. It's the same compound.

[MickeyKnox]

Cycle looks solid and so do your stats, other than being a bit young.

AI?
hCG?

Good luck on your cycle bro.

[Farid]

There is no difference. It's the same compound.

ah ok, thanks I guess I will have to stick to injecting it

[MickeyKnox]

ah ok, thanks I guess I will have to stick to injecting it

Any AI or hCG planned for this cycle Farid?

[austinite]

Any AI or hCG planned for this cycle Farid?

also curious...

[Farid]

got ai on hand, don't plan on doing hcg

[MickeyKnox]

got ai on hand, don't plan on doing hcg

Cardiovascular Dangers of Excess Estrogen

Conventional medical dogma states that estrogen is cardio-protective while androgens are pro-atherogenic. This fallacy is based on the mere fact that men have higher levels of heart disease than women.

Excess estrogen in males has many harmful effects, and is definitely not cardio-protective. The following are just a few of the many research studies demonstrating the harmful cardiovascular effects of excess estrogen in males:

1) Increases Risk of Stroke.
After adjustment for age, hypertension, diabetes, adiposity, cholesterol, atrial fibrillation, and other characteristics were made in a group of 2,197 men aged 71 to 93 years of age, men with the highest blood levels of estradiol had a 2.2-fold greater risk of stroke, compared with those whose estradiol levels were lower. www .ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17310026

2) Increases carotid artery thickness.
In a study of 313 men whose average age was 58, carotid artery intima-media thickness was measured at baseline and then three years later. After adjusting for other confounding risk factors, higher levels of estradiol were associated with thickening of the carotid artery wall. Researchers concluded, “Circulating estradiol is a predictor of progression of carotid artery intima-media thickness in middle-aged men.” jcem.endojournals.org/content/91/11/4433.full

3) Negatively affects lipids and other risk factors for CAD.
In an angiographic trial of coronary atherosclerosis in a group of men with stable coronary artery disease, significant positive correlations between estradiol levels and other known atherosclerotic risk factors was observed. Researchers concluded, “Our results indicate a possible role of estradiol in promoting the development of atherogenic lipid milieu in men with coronary artery disease.” ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15860391

4) Promotes coronary atherosclerosis.
In another angiographic trial of coronary atherosclerosis in men aged 40-60 years, compared with healthy age-matched controls, men with coronary atherosclerosis had higher levels of estrone and a low level of testosterone in the presence of a high level of estradiol. Researchers concluded, “Low levels of total testosterone, testosterone/estradiol ratio and free androgen index and higher levels of estrone in men with coronary artery disease appear together with many features of metabolic syndrome and may be involved in the pathogenesis of coronary atherosclerosis.”
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15669538

5) Associated with heart attacks.
In a study of men having suffered an acute myocardial infarction (heart attack), a prior heart attack, and patients with normal coronary arteries, the results showed significantly higher levels of estradiol in both groups of heart attack patients compared with those without coronary disease. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17435665

6) Increases Blood Pressure
Excessively high levels of estrogen cause production of superoxide, a potent free radical which damages cell structures and increases blood pressure.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21411770

[warmouth]

I would just drink the winny since you seem to not like pinning it. And do it everyday instead of eod. I've done it both ways, and at eod, I could tell a huge difference in lack of strength on off days. Also, winny is a compound I favor, and I use it a lot.