Sus and deca first cycle

[Junk bomb]

Before you start on me, I know you should do a test only cycle for your first cycle.

My mate has started doing sus and deca, his mate suggested to do .5ml of each Monday and Thursday so all up 250mg of sus and 300mg of deca per week. I suggested to up the sus to 500mg per week and deca to 300mg per week and run that for 12 weeks and drop the deca and continue another 2 weeks of just sus and then nolva and clomid pct.

The question is, am I right or should he drop the deca all together and just run 500mg of sus for 12 weeks? He is already 5 weeks in.

[Honkey_Kong]

Stats?

[austinite]

What are his stats?

[poppz]

austinite,i have to comment on your pic,,,,she is a very attractive woman.

[Junk bomb]

He is 25, no previous cycles. Benching 100kg and weighing about 80kg, been lifting for about 4 years, about 5ft 10'

[Capebuffalo]

Drop the deca. What is his ai? What is planned pct?

[Back In Black]

He is 25, no previous cycles. Benching 100kg and weighing about 80kg, been lifting for about 4 years, about 5ft 10'

He weighs 176lbs for all you Americans

What is his bf%?

[Junk bomb]

His bf is roughly 12% and he hasn't been running any ai yet, I've only just found out what he has been doing for the past 5 weeks.

So what if I tell him, up the sus to 500mg per week and run the rest of the deca at 300mg for what he has left (prob 4 -5ml) and then just continue the sus till week 12. Start running liquid ex for ai and then tamox and clomid for pct?

Does that sound alright?

[austinite]

I'd just run sust for 12 weeks with an AI and hCG, then PCT with nolva and clomid. Check out Mickeys Beginner cycles thread.

[Junk bomb]

Yeah I know that's what I would do, but he has already started and is 4-5 weeks in on 250mg sus and 300mg deca per week.

[austinite]

you should just ask him to join. Seems odd advising someone who isn't even here.

[Junk bomb]

None of my mates are smart enough to research what they're doing, I was just hoping someone could confirm that the advise I'm giving him is correct?

[Capebuffalo]

Good thing he is older than you or the advise would have been to stop everything.
Thank goodness he is 25.
Lol

[Junk bomb]

Yeah I know, still he has no idea and the dude he gets it off gives tells him a retarded cycle to start on.

Originally he was going to do just 9 - 10 weeks of 250mg sus and 300mg deca..

[ChiveOn]

I wouldn't pin sust less than e3d, at 750mg/wk but that's just my opinion. If ANYTHING have him up it to 500mg. I never eat of anyone running thier Deca higher than the test. 500mg of test and 3-400mg of Deca seems pretty standard unless you're experienced. Yes, run the test out a few weeks longer. And no, I wouldn't suggest running more than 12 weeks. In my (limited) experience I prefer cycles that range from 8-10 weeks. I don't really ever see a need to go further

[Junk bomb]

Thanks a lot mate that helps, would there be any bad effects of dropping the deca half way through cycle and switching to sus only?

[Junk bomb]

Anyone else can help me with some input. Surely someone must have an idea