The benefits of Vitamin C

[M302_Imola]

http://www.serranonutrition.com/inde...onment?start=1

I have been researching vitamin c and cortisol and ran across this article which I thought did a descent job of listing the benefits from supplementing vitamin c. I'm particularly interested in what you guys think about the author's timing on when to take vitamin c to help control cortisol levels. He suggest taking it w/ breakfast, 1 hr. prior to lifting, and 2 hrs. pwo. I know a lot of guys here (myself included) that take it w/ their pwo shake or meal...do you think it would make a difference waiting the author's suggested 2 hrs. pwo? For those of you that do take vitamin c, list when you take it and how much you take so we can get a comparison.

[M302_Imola]

I will get this rolling...
breakfast - 1.5g vit c
pre workout (1hr. before the gym) - 2g vit c
pwo (immediately after training) - 3g vit c

[edgarr]

1g with every meal

[Teufel_Hunden]

3g with breakfast

[Back In Black]

3g 30 mins before apre breakfast low intensty cardio or, on a seperate day 30 mins before hiit cardio later in the day.

[Swifto]

I do 2g in the AM.

1g PreWO 20-30mins before WO.

Then 2-3g with my PPWO meal, which is 45-60mins PWO.

[IM708]

IMO, complete waste taking that much vitamin c

[Necrosaro]

^ How so? I take 2000mgs which is recommended.

[IM708]

2000 mg is the upper limit for intake. There is a direct relation between your dose and and the amount your body will simply waste.

Pulled from my vitamins thread:

If you take in th amount your body truely requires per day which is around 100mg there is a 80-100% absorption rate, 500mg per day there is a 75% absorption rate, 1000mg per day there is a 50% absorption rate, 6000mg per day there is a 20% absorption rate.

[M302_Imola]

IMO, complete waste taking that much vitamin c

I understand what you are saying about the body can only handle so much vit. c before you piss the excess out, but that is why you space the doses out throughout the day. Have I been mis-informed?

[M302_Imola]

I do 2g in the AM.

1g PreWO 20-30mins before WO.

Then 2-3g with my PPWO meal, which is 45-60mins PWO.

do you think it makes a big difference in taking your vit. c 1hr pwo or immediately pwo in terms of inhibiting cortisol?

[edgarr]

2000 mg is the upper limit for intake. There is a direct relation between your dose and and the amount your body will simply waste.

Pulled from my vitamins thread:

then at 100mg you keep 100mg at 500mg you keep 375mg 1000mg=500mg and 6000mg = 1200mg

so why would take 6000mg or 6g be bad? You would absorb 1.2g vs .1

[M302_Imola]

bump for answers

[NC600cbr]

I'd like to hear more on this myself.

Looking to start additional Vit C intake.

[stevey_6t9]

thank god is water soluble becos your gona piss 80% of your high dosages out

[C_Bino]

You can definitely take a ton. You do not piss it all out at all. I cannot comprehend people who think they are supplement experts yet arent even considering the health state of the individual, everyone is going to require and THUS ABSORB different amounts.

To put an upper limit on a vitamin and set it across the board for EVERYONE is TRULY TRULY ignorant.

Also we are one of the ONLY mammals that does not manufacture vitamin C on our own. Most primates will manufacture 6000-8000mg daily. Yet we should only take 200mg?

LOL I take about 10000mg daily.

Take your high doses, people who want to listen to the government (ya because they are so smart) take your RDA or RDI. Come back to me in 20 years when you are on medication for high cholesterol.

[OH REALLY]

good call i just took mine

[tboney]

You can definitely take a ton. You do not piss it all out at all. I cannot comprehend people who think they are supplement experts yet arent even considering the health state of the individual, everyone is going to require and THUS ABSORB different amounts.

To put an upper limit on a vitamin and set it across the board for EVERYONE is TRULY TRULY ignorant.

Also we are one of the ONLY mammals that does not manufacture vitamin C on our own. Most primates will manufacture 6000-8000mg daily. Yet we should only take 200mg?

LOL I take about 10000mg daily.

Take your high doses, people who want to listen to the government (ya because they are so smart) take your RDA or RDI. Come back to me in 20 years when you are on medication for high cholesterol.

Well said.....

[NC600cbr]

Do most of you take the dosages with Breakfast / Pre-workout and with PWO meal?

[edgarr]

Do most of you take the dosages with Breakfast / Pre-workout and with PWO meal?

1g with every meal

[M302_Imola]

You can definitely take a ton. You do not piss it all out at all. I cannot comprehend people who think they are supplement experts yet arent even considering the health state of the individual, everyone is going to require and THUS ABSORB different amounts.

To put an upper limit on a vitamin and set it across the board for EVERYONE is TRULY TRULY ignorant.

Also we are one of the ONLY mammals that does not manufacture vitamin C on our own. Most primates will manufacture 6000-8000mg daily. Yet we should only take 200mg?

LOL I take about 10000mg daily.

Take your high doses, people who want to listen to the government (ya because they are so smart) take your RDA or RDI. Come back to me in 20 years when you are on medication for high cholesterol.

Preach on brotha! Lookin good in your new avy (in a non-gay way)!

[Just2Big]

I take a around 8,000-10,000 a day. Its cheap. If it helps it helps. If not it didnt take me broke.

[IM708]

You can definitely take a ton. You do not piss it all out at all. I cannot comprehend people who think they are supplement experts yet arent even considering the health state of the individual, everyone is going to require and THUS ABSORB different amounts.

You can take a ton but you won't absorb it all, I never said anywhere that you will waste all of it, I said the more you take the higher the percentage your body will simply excrete.

To put an upper limit on a vitamin and set it across the board for EVERYONE is TRULY TRULY ignorant.

If you were to read the disclaimer to my thread this is for healthy adult males and females (not pregnant or lactating) between the ages of 19-70y.

Also we are one of the ONLY mammals that does not manufacture vitamin C on our own. Most primates will manufacture 6000-8000mg daily. Yet we should only take 200mg?

200? How about you multiply that by 10.

LOL I take about 10000mg daily.

Why? What will taking 10g do for you that 2g won't? If you have studies showing taking superdoses will be beneficial for healthy adults over taking a 'standard' lower dosage then I'm all game for changing my viewpoints.

Take your high doses, people who want to listen to the government (ya because they are so smart) take your RDA or RDI. Come back to me in 20 years when you are on medication for high cholesterol.

So if you don't take high amounts of vitamin c then you will get high cholesterol, not going to take into consideration any other variables that also effect cholesterol levels?

[krugerr]

Slap me for Resurrecting a long dead thread, but this seems to be the only Vit-C thread I can find, and this does have useful dosing information.

Question: Whats the benefits of taking so much Vit-C? A buddy of mine was chatting away the other day and asked me about my supps and vitamins, when I said I just take a multivit he hit the roof and went off on a rant about how I should be taking 6g a day at least of vitamin-C. Now according to the packet, 1g is approximately 1000% of my RDA, so why the high doses?

[MickeyKnox]

I take 3g per day split three times.

[Antonious]

Usually 1g, seems like i have to up it
Read somewhere vit c can damage your dna or something

[belva]

Vitamin C video
btw this doc inject it IV.
Vitamin C and Cancer - YouTube

[MajorPectorial]

Ima have to od on cavity I reckon! Ha!

[krugerr]

So besides the possible link to some cancers. Why are people still taking this at high doses?

[basketballfan22]

Damn I need to up my dose for sure. I am only taking around 600mg of vitamin C. I think I will up the dose closer to 2000mg.

[krugerr]

Damn I need to up my dose for sure. I am only taking around 600mg of vitamin C. I think I will up the dose closer to 2000mg.

Yea I'm on 3000-4000mg a day now. Just because it's so damn cheap. £1.25 for 20 tablets (1000mg) at Sainsburys. I brought a few!

[basketballfan22]

Yea I'm on 3000-4000mg a day now. Just because it's so damn cheap. £1.25 for 20 tablets (1000mg) at Sainsburys. I brought a few!

Yeah, that is why I don't mind adding vitamin C to my supplementation. I am going to go to the store today and get the cheapest one. I definitely prefer the chewable kind though because that shit is delicious, haha.

[krugerr]

Yeah, that is why I don't mind adding vitamin C to my supplementation. I am going to go to the store today and get the cheapest one. I definitely prefer the chewable kind though because that shit is delicious, haha.

Just picked up my B12, B6, magnesium and a cheap multivitamin to fill in the gaps on a few things

[M302_Imola]

Glad this thread got bumped as I needed to update it anyway. I no longer take such high doses of Vit. C and don't take any pwo anymore. I've read articles talking about using antioxidants pwo is not ideal as the body creates a response to your workout and interrupting that response with antioxidants is not recommended. The same goes for cortisol so I supplement with vit. c before my workouts. 500mg vit. c with breakfast and lunch...that's it. To be honest I feel much better on low doses of vit. c!

[basketballfan22]

Haha, gotta love how quickly nutritional advice changes in the bodybuilding community. I am only taking two 1000-mg tablets per day in addition to my 1 glass of orange juice and my multivitamin. This works out to about 2,360 mg of vitamin C per day. I think this is somewhere in the middle of the suggested amounts, so I will try it out for a while.

[tigerspawn]

Studies recommend 500mg of vitamin C to achieve health results. The safe upper limit for vitamin C is 2,000mg. American Dietetic Association suggests ensuring we eat fruits and vegetables. "Strive to eat nine servings of fruits and vegetables daily, because you will get a healthy dose of vitamin C along with an abundance of other vitamins, minerals, and phytochemicals that are good for disease prevention and overall health."

[kelkel]

Good review here:


Vitamin C - In-Depth Scientific Supplement Information | Examine.com

[whitelinecrime]

i can see this an old post but i saw this in FLEX mag...

There are some advocates in the health industry for mega-dosing on antioxidants. Some health gurus advocate sevral grams a day but the latest study reported in Acta Physiologica suggests that mega-dosing vitamin C can blunt muscle hypertrophy responses. The researchers took rats and them placed under extreme muscle overload ( that is, surgical removal of muscle so that the another muscle is used ) and gave them mega-doses of vitamin C. The dose used was 500mg/kg; so if we convert directly to humans and you weigh 100kgs, that is 50 grams of vitamin C. However, at the end of the study, the magnitude of muscle hypertrophy was significantly smaller in the vitamin C-administered group (141%) than in the placebo-administered group (152%), most studies to date show that anything more than 1 gram of vitamin C a day is not going to enhance performance, and based on the study, mega-dosing vitamin C can be counter productive.