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    Performance enhancement and my first cycle

    I actually posted this as a reply to the Most common beginner cycles thread by MickeyKnox but thought I would get more views if I just made my own thread.

    Just as a refresher:
    I am a collegiate level swimmer and have been competing at this level for three years now. I'm primarily a sprinter, 50 and 100 freestyle and I mix in some breaststroke. I have had great success in the pool over my career but I have always just missed qualifying for nationals in any of individual events. So I thought for my senior year, junior summer, I should just go for broke and see what I can do with a well calculated diet and cycle.

    Stats
    Age: 22 - will be 23 before starting proposed cycle
    Height: 5' 10.5
    *Updated Weight: 168 (Lost a few fat pounds with cleaner diet)
    BF%: 10-12%
    (I will not start the cycle for a while, not until I get back in shape and am around my "fighting weight," which is 175).

    *Updated Lifts - all "max" weights are reps of 4
    Bench - 215 (Up 10lbs from last post late April)
    Military Press - 195 (Up 10lbs)
    Squat - 265 (Up 20lbs)

    As suggested, I checked out this great thread and started considering a beginner cycle (you didn't say I should consider Test only but that seems to be the general consciences among you vets). So far Option 3. (Test Prop) seems to be my best bet but I had a few (hopefully not dumb) questions. Before I ask them though, I feel as though I should explain my goals with this cycle.

    I am considering this first cycle strictly as a performance enhancer, meaning I'm not overly concerned with how many pounds I gain (I know how much weight I gain is based off of my diet, I'm referring to bloating and water weight). I want to build the most possible strength, speed, and endurance I can this summer before I start my last year as a competitive swimmer. I am completely aware that I want magically turn into Ryan Lochte once I start a cycle. I know that most of my goals will be achieved through hard training and a better diet, I just think this cycle will help me exceed my goals.

    Questions:
    1. Since I am not going for size, should I drop the weekly dosage? I was thinking 100-125mg eod for 8 weeks and keeping everything else the exact same (as on MikeyKnox's thread).

    2. Should I consider a lighter (or regular) Test dosage supplemented with another compound such as Anavar, Winnie, T-Bol, ect?

    Thanks for all of the help and sorry for such a long post!

    *Forgot to mention this. Sprinters are BIG compared to the stereotypical swimmer. Check out Nathan Adrien or Alain Bernard
    Last edited by SwimDude; 05-06-2013 at 07:59 PM.

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    if u gonna compete in sports which are drug tested u should not take risk by using aas.my advice will be read about peptides they can help you

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwimDude View Post
    I actually posted this as a reply to the Most common beginner cycles thread by MickeyKnox but thought I would get more views if I just made my own thread.

    Just as a refresher:
    I am a collegiate level swimmer and have been competing at this level for three years now. I'm primarily a sprinter, 50 and 100 freestyle and I mix in some breaststroke. I have had great success in the pool over my career but I have always just missed qualifying for nationals in any of individual events. So I thought for my senior year, junior summer, I should just go for broke and see what I can do with a well calculated diet and cycle.

    Stats
    Age: 22 - will be 23 before starting proposed cycle
    Height: 5' 10.5
    *Updated Weight: 168 (Lost a few fat pounds with cleaner diet)
    BF%: 10-12%
    (I will not start the cycle for a while, not until I get back in shape and am around my "fighting weight," which is 175).

    *Updated Lifts - all "max" weights are reps of 4
    Bench - 215 (Up 10lbs from last post late April)
    Military Press - 195 (Up 10lbs)
    Squat - 265 (Up 20lbs)

    As suggested, I checked out this great thread and started considering a beginner cycle (you didn't say I should consider Test only but that seems to be the general consciences among you vets). So far Option 3. (Test Prop) seems to be my best bet but I had a few (hopefully not dumb) questions. Before I ask them though, I feel as though I should explain my goals with this cycle.

    I am considering this first cycle strictly as a performance enhancer, meaning I'm not overly concerned with how many pounds I gain (I know how much weight I gain is based off of my diet, I'm referring to bloating and water weight). I want to build the most possible strength, speed, and endurance I can this summer before I start my last year as a competitive swimmer. I am completely aware that I want magically turn into Ryan Lochte once I start a cycle. I know that most of my goals will be achieved through hard training and a better diet, I just think this cycle will help me exceed my goals.

    Questions:
    1. Since I am not going for size, should I drop the weekly dosage? I was thinking 100-125mg eod for 8 weeks and keeping everything else the exact same (as on MikeyKnox's thread).

    2. Should I consider a lighter (or regular) Test dosage supplemented with another compound such as Anavar, Winnie, T-Bol, ect?

    Thanks for all of the help and sorry for such a long post!

    *Forgot to mention this. Sprinters are BIG compared to the stereotypical swimmer. Check out Nathan Adrien or Alain Bernard
    I'm in a similar situation (ballet) but without the drug testing component.

    I am not looking for poundages at all. My goals are max strength, high strength to weight ratio, power, faster recovery, improved technique by being able to train more...

    I've read about boxers and mma athletes who dont want to gain weight before a fight, or endurance athletes in season looking only to bump their T levels to above average since their training smashes their natural production. I think it makes sense in that case as they are close to a date when weight will be measure or need to have their bodies optimized for cardiovascular performance.

    But we are in the "offseason," and if they were too, I bet they also would cycle differently. So I say run the test prop at 150 eod, and eat clean. Also look into the peptides modGRF1-29 and ipamorelin.

    I'm currently running:

    each peptide at 300mcg ed. This is my 2nd week. (12 weeks)
    test prop 75mg ed. This is my 2nd day. (12 weeks)
    gonna add anavar 75mg ed (5-12 weeks)

    my diet is clean bulkish. I'm training about 4 hours a day, doing weightlifting 1 hour a day, ancillary/accessory weightlufting 1 day, and stretching for about 90min. There is no way I'm worried about getting too big with this kind of training and on 525/wk of test prop. And in the event I get too "muscular" (laughable by the standard of this board) I'll deal with it during the cycle or after as I'm not performing or auditioning anytime soon.

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