Is this enough anadrol

[11bangbang]

I'm planning on two cycles.

I'm 5'7" 160

My first cycle I'm running

Wk 1-4 30 mg anadrol and 500 mg test
Wk 4-10 500 mg test ( I could possibly go to 12 or 14 wks if the rest of my gear arrives in time)

Nolva for pct.

Small cycle, I know but I'm wondering if the anadrol is gonna be enough to really make it worth it. I'm looking for strength gains first and foremost. I'm confident in my routine and my diet just hoping someone has experience with a bombs at what seems like a relatively low dose compared to most.

I would also like some input on expectations. I'm having trouble setting goals because I really don't know what I should strive for, realistically so I'm not pushing too hard or not hard enough.

I currently
bench 235
Squat 300
Mil press 130

[Dougiefresh7707]

Search "most common beginner cycles" by mikeyknox it will help you. Test only first time but read that thread it elaborates.

[Zoey101Fan]

Start the test at week 1. You don't see great gains from test until week 6 (from my experience), so you can use the adrol to kick. I also favor running test for at least 12 weeks.

Looks like a great cycle for strength gains! My first test cycle had me benching well into the 400's so it's definitely possible to lift quite a bit on just a little bit of test. I've never run adrol (or any oral, for that matter), but based on what I have read, 30mg should be a good kick start and should also help you with your strength goals.

I recommend running letro 1mg every other day while on cycle in order to keep your estrogen levels under control. Also consider adding clomid and maybe hcg to your pct. Do a little bit more research before you start.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Start the test at week 1. You don't see great gains from test until week 6 (from my experience), so you can use the adrol to kick. I also favor running test for at least 12 weeks.

Looks like a great cycle for strength gains! My first test cycle had me benching well into the 400's so it's definitely possible to lift quite a bit on just a little bit of test. I've never run adrol (or any oral, for that matter), but based on what I have read, 30mg should be a good kick start and should also help you with your strength goals.

I recommend running letro 1mg every other day while on cycle in order to keep your estrogen levels under control. Also consider adding clomid and maybe hcg to your pct. Do a little bit more research before you start.

Hcg to your pct really? Dude read the thread I suggested this guy ^ doesn't know what he's saying if he's telling you to add hcg to your pct.

[Zoey101Fan]

Hcg to your pct really? Dude read the thread I suggested this guy ^ doesn't know what he's saying if he's telling you to add hcg to your pct.

I add hcg the day after my last shot and run it up until I start torem. to me that's post cycle.

I guess some guys run it on cycle also. to me it's pct... idk man. you guys are kinda picky

[Dougiefresh7707]

You run it on cycle and if your using test e you use it while ester is cycling out but do you know why you run it through the cycle if to use it on last pin your pretty much using it for no reason man do some research.in short version Hcg imitates the natural process to make test because when you put test into your body the body shutsdown that process because it know your test levels are up. So if you were to wait till last pin then you would already be shutdown and unless your just use to having tiny balls then idk how you cycled that way it's bad advice for the op. I'm new too that's why I suggested what I did and didn't act like I knew everything.

[AlinSR]

Yep, it's enough, you should see some positive changes with this combo.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Yep, it's enough, you should see some positive changes with this combo.

You see nothing wrong huh?

[human project]

I'm planning on two cycles.

I'm 5'7" 160

My first cycle I'm running

Wk 1-4 30 mg anadrol and 500 mg test
Wk 4-10 500 mg test ( I could possibly go to 12 or 14 wks if the rest of my gear arrives in time)

Nolva for pct.

Small cycle, I know but I'm wondering if the anadrol is gonna be enough to really make it worth it. I'm looking for strength gains first and foremost. I'm confident in my routine and my diet just hoping someone has experience with a bombs at what seems like a relatively low dose compared to most.

I would also like some input on expectations. I'm having trouble setting goals because I really don't know what I should strive for, realistically so I'm not pushing too hard or not hard enough.

I currently
bench 235
Squat 300
Mil press 130

What is your reason for wanting to use a lower dose then normally used??

[11bangbang]

Could you be more specific. I know it's a difficult thing to guess at but I want to have an idea of where I'll be at the end. Like I said, nutrition, rest, and routine I feel are pretty solid and I've done a lot of endurance training for the last ten years. Mma and military but I'm focused 100% now on strength. I've done a good bit of research on the gear and training and continue to do so on a daily basis.

[11bangbang]

I'm planning two cycles. I'm gonna get my blood work and all to check how my body reacts to the stack and if all is well, after a 8 wk break, my 2nd will be

Wk 1-5 50 mg anadrol daily
Wk 1- 16 test e 400 twice a week

Nolva for pct. (pending)

[11bangbang]

This is the reason I opted out of hcg

[11bangbang]

This is the reason I opted out of hcg

You run it on cycle and if your using test e you use it while ester is cycling out but do you know why you run it through the cycle if to use it on last pin your pretty much using it for no reason man do some research.in short version Hcg imitates the natural process to make test because when you put test into your body the body shutsdown that process because it know your test levels are up. So if you were to wait till last pin then you would already be shutdown and unless your just use to having tiny balls then idk how you cycled that way it's bad advice for the op. I'm new too that's why I suggested what I did and didn't act like I knew everything.

This is why I opted out of hcg

[Dougiefresh7707]

I'm planning two cycles. I'm gonna get my blood work and all to check how my body reacts to the stack and if all is well, after a 8 wk break, my 2nd will be

Wk 1-5 50 mg anadrol daily
Wk 1- 16 test e 400 twice a week

Nolva for pct. (pending)

You really need to do what was suggested at first 1-16 weeks!?!?? You have no idea about cycling nolva pending?!?! Opted out of hcg?!?!! All huge red flags you don't know what your talking about or doing by simplify reading what I told you too this would all be sorted out.

[Dougiefresh7707]

This is why I opted out of hcg

Did you read it!? It's saying its a must on a cycle so you don't get tiny balls and pct has something to help it it keeps you testies somewhat functioning instead of shut down!

[11bangbang]

Nolva is pending because I have no idea how my body will react to it yet so my pct is still up in the air. Could be nolva could be clomid could be both.

From my understanding of hcg it is primarily for atrophy of the testes and is usually used on prolonged cycles. I also didn't want ANY confusion when it came to pct so I'm keeping it simple for now so if there is a problem it's easier to identify exactly what it is.

My question is about my gains and whether the relatively low dose of anadrol will be effective.

[BBJT200]

I personally would use 50mg ED or 100mg ED of anadrol if you're going to use it.
But on your first cycle, test only really will be plenty to make a huge amount of gains.

[11bangbang]

If you had to guess( with good nutrition and routine, given my stats already)
Where do u think I could be on bench squat and mil press? What kind of strength gains did you see in yourself or in other people?

I will up my dose to somewhere between 50 and 100 on my next cycle.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Nolva is pending because I have no idea how my body will react to it yet so my pct is still up in the air. Could be nolva could be clomid could be both.

From my understanding of hcg it is primarily for atrophy of the testes and is usually used on prolonged cycles. I also didn't want ANY confusion when it came to pct so I'm keeping it simple for now so if there is a problem it's easier to identify exactly what it is.

My question is about my gains and whether the relatively low dose of anadrol will be effective.

Where did you get your info on hcg if you read the thread I told you to you would know it to keep you for going into testicular atrophy and how would I know what your gains will be no one can tell you that, depends on training and diet I can't say yea you will gain 10 pounds of solid muscle cuz you say you know what your doing. Also you should do test only first cycle and your gains will be great but you don't know what your doing so you gunna just fvck yourself up. Pct is another subject you know nothing about obviously and all this is outlined perfectly if you go to the top of the page and type "most common beginner cycles" it was origanlly posted by mikeyknox . I'm done here so check that out or do the cycle you proposed with no knowledge and pray about it.

[11bangbang]

Because from my understanding of hcg (research only) it can also cause your estrogen levels to skyrocket putting u at increased risk for gyno

[Dougiefresh7707]

I personally would use 50mg ED or 100mg ED of anadrol if you're going to use it.
But on your first cycle, test only really will be plenty to make a huge amount of gains.

Look at his other post needs to learn some more befor cycle IMO

[Zoey101Fan]

Where did you get your info on hcg if you read the thread I told you to you would know it to keep you for going into testicular atrophy and how would I know what your gains will be no one can tell you that, depends on training and diet I can't say yea you will gain 10 pounds of solid muscle cuz you say you know what your doing. Also you should do test only first cycle and your gains will be great but you don't know what your doing so you gunna just fvck yourself up. Pct is another subject you know nothing about obviously and all this is outlined perfectly if you go to the top of the page and type "most common beginner cycles" it was origanlly posted by mikeyknox . I'm done here so check that out or do the cycle you proposed with no knowledge and pray about it.

chill dude. he'll recover fine without hcg. might be a little bit slower and might lose a little more muscle, but it's not 100% necessary. I definitely think he should include clomid with the nolva tho. clomid's like fifteen bucks, so why not.

@OP: it's tough to predict strength gains. I think strength is tied pretty hard to genetics. Although if you stuff your face with food and jump on a powerlifting routine, I think a 350 bench/425 squat would be very realistic goals.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Because from my understanding of hcg (research only) it can also cause your estrogen levels to skyrocket putting u at increased risk for gyno

Yea idk what someone would take while cycling to combat e levels ? Lol do you have any idea what I could use for that?

[Dougiefresh7707]

chill dude. he'll recover fine without hcg. might be a little bit slower and might lose a little more muscle, but it's not 100% necessary. I definitely think he should include clomid with the nolva tho. clomid's like fifteen bucks, so why not.

@OP: it's tough to predict strength gains. I think strength is tied pretty hard to genetics. Although if you stuff your face with food and jump on a powerlifting routine, I think a 350 bench/425 squat would be very realistic goals.

Have you ever seen a blind guy try to help another blind guy across a freeway?

[11bangbang]

If you can't or don't want to answer the question why bother posting?

[11bangbang]

Maybe I should just load up on 12 different compounds for my first cycle. I mean it works for you right?

[Dougiefresh7707]

chill dude. he'll recover fine without hcg. might be a little bit slower and might lose a little more muscle, but it's not 100% necessary. I definitely think he should include clomid with the nolva tho. clomid's like fifteen bucks, so why not.

@OP: it's tough to predict strength gains. I think strength is tied pretty hard to genetics. Although if you stuff your face with food and jump on a powerlifting routine, I think a 350 bench/425 squat would be very realistic goals.

Your balls pry look like peas if your cycling lol and 15 bucks where do you get ur I need that number. I guess next your gunna say ai isn't needed either or do you guys not even know what that is havent seen it mentioned yet?

[Dougiefresh7707]

If you can't or don't want to answer the question why bother posting?

I am trying to help you understand things that you need to put inline befor you think about cycling. But you seem like you got this you know it all right go for it do that cycle buddy.

[11bangbang]

Trying to be safe as possible.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Maybe I should just load up on 12 different compounds for my first cycle. I mean it works for you right?

12 different where did you get your numbers?

[Dougiefresh7707]

Trying to be safe as possible.

Lol no your not you want to do it your way I'm trying to tell you to learn how to do this safely but your dodging them so good luck man .

[11bangbang]

So u the hcg is a must? Arimidex a must? Combine the nolva with clomid? Do all these things and add some tren and sust?

[11bangbang]

Honestly you're just wasting my time at this point. I looked at what you suggested on your first post. Thank you for your input.

[MartyMcFly]

You see nothing wrong huh?

You see who he reps don't you? Garbage in, Garbage out.

[Dougiefresh7707]

So u the hcg is a must? Arimidex a must? Combine the nolva with clomid? Do all these things and add some tren and sust?

Hcg a must an ai to combat estrogen levels a must yes and no test e only I want to look like a man while cycling not get tits or tiny balls.later man good luck .

[Dougiefresh7707]

You see who he reps don't you? Garbage in, Garbage out.

Don't understand what you mean lol

[Angel of death]

Test only is good for your first cycle, but in terms of running anadrol, 30mg is a good dose in my opinion. 50mg and I couldn't sleep, my lips were cracked, and I was a complete psycho. Although, I was strong as all hell.

[Gaspaco]

No need to run adrol at all in first cycle.

[human project]

Could you be more specific. I know it's a difficult thing to guess at but I want to have an idea of where I'll be at the end. Like I said, nutrition, rest, and routine I feel are pretty solid and I've done a lot of endurance training for the last ten years. Mma and military but I'm focused 100% now on strength. I've done a good bit of research on the gear and training and continue to do so on a daily basis.

It's mainly based on genetics bub.... Even your willingness to eat, train, how much you go out and party.... Literally everything.... All you can do is try and find out

[human project]

This is why I opted out of hcg

Anadrol will shut you down in less then a week.... Try and prevent testiculae atrophy and function as much as possible rather then try and restart your system later.... Also hcg never does well off cycle for me because of estrogen build up but hcg will also shut down your natural test if not mistaken....