How big can you get with just AAS and no HGH + insulin?

[Infinitecycling]

Let's say your workout routine and diet is perfect.

What is the limit in size you can obtain if you are just using AAS? Also if anyone here was to make a reasonable guess what percentage of the size of the pro's is caused by AAS and what percentage was caused by the HGH and insulin?

[Bio-Active]

That is only really going to be determined by your genetics. There is no one size fits all

[Infinitecycling]

That is only really going to be determined by your genetics. There is no one size fits all

You mean how many of certain hormone receptors you have?

[fit2bOld]

Really? he said genetics, has nothing to do with receptors we all have those.

[Times Roman]

Class dismissed!

[black man]

genetics

[clarky.]

very big I would say

[carbo]

Let me put it this way - you would get to a certain size and condition, both being nowhere near a competitive bodybuilder.

[AlinSR]

There are plenty of guys who turned pro without the use of slin and gh