Test C and Deca cycle

[pitweiler]

First off I'm 28 6 foot 190lbs. About 13% Bf.
1st cycle was test ethanate 250 10 weeks
2nd was test E 500 for 12 weeks.
Both with pct of clomid and tomox

Last cycle was over a year ago
I'm looking to get my next cycle in order this is what I'm thinking

Test C 600mgs 1-12 weeks
Deca 400mgs 1-10 weeks
HCG- 250iu Twice a week
AI- .25 EOD

PCT 18 days after last injection
Clomid- 100/50/50/50
Tomox-40/20/20/20

Kinda debating adding Dbol to the mix
30-40mgs 1-4 weeks 10mgs every 4hrs

Please critique and let me know how it is

[drake4243]

First if it were me I would run the deca for 12weeks not 10 . Second you only need to run the test 1 extra week then wait the 2 weeks 14days not 18 so start pct 3 weeks after last deca poke. So 1-12deca at X amount 400 is good, then 1-13 test c at your 600 which I think is a bit high 500 should be fine but it’s ok. Then week 15 PCT starts.

After that make sure your HCG starts week 1 250ius twice a week run right up to 3 days before your pct starts.

Finally you need to run Prami or Caber with this, I have no experience with caber but plenty with prami you can get it at Ar-r prami at .25ed right before bed, and I mean the second before you fall asleep it can cause some tough sides for some people.

I am a big advocate of deca good luck.

[pitweiler]

I've always thought that you stop it 2 weeks before the test ends. With the test I have 3 bottles of 300. Should I go a little less than 1cc if 600 a week is a little much? Ill pick up some caber when I get my pct.
so is this better?
Test C 600mgs 1-13weeks
Deca 400mgs 1-12weeks
HCG- 250iu Twice a week
AI- .25 EOD
Caber-.25 ED

PCT 21 days after last injection
Clomid- 100/50/50/50
Tomox-40/20/20/20

[pitweiler]

Is adding Dbol to the mix over doing it?

[drake4243]

[QUOTE=pitweiler;6672618]I've always thought that you stop it 2 weeks before the test ends.

Nope that is just an old school way of thinking no need wait 4 weeks. Ask another vet if you like but I am 100% positive on this one. As for your test it is up to you at 400mgs of deca you are going to have a ton of gains (with a proper diet) and only being your 3rd go around you do not need to just keep upping your test every cycle, you can stay with 500mg and in my opinion get the same gains as 600mgs. I would wait for 2 or 3 more cycles before you take that test any higher than 500mg there is just no real reason for it.

[kelkel]

I've always thought that you stop it 2 weeks before the test ends. With the test I have 3 bottles of 300. Should I go a little less than 1cc if 600 a week is a little much? Ill pick up some caber when I get my pct.
so is this better?
Test C 600mgs 1-13weeks
Deca 400mgs 1-12weeks
HCG- 250iu Twice a week
AI- .25 EOD
Caber-.25 ED

PCT 21 days after last injection
Clomid- 100/50/50/50
Tomox-40/20/20/20

Is adding Dbol to the mix over doing it?

Your pct at 18 days for test C is accurate. I don't think you'll notice much difference between 5-600mg of test. You're adding deca which is new for you so I'd just stick at 500 test. One step at a time. Caber is not ED. It's not even necessary if you control your E but it is a safety net. I'd suggest .5mg twice per week in conjunction with solid E control and you'll be just fine. You don't need dbol. See what the deca does for you here. Concentrate on nutrition and training.

Consider blood work prior to initiating this so you know where you're at.

[drake4243]

[QUOTE=kelkel;6672629]Your pct at 18 days for test C is accurate.
thanks for correcting this kelkel I though e and c were the same good catch.

[kelkel]

[QUOTE=drake4243;6672631]

Your pct at 18 days for test C is accurate.
thanks for correcting this kelkel I though e and c were the same good catch.

No worries. We're on the same page otherwise.

[songdog]

6ft and 190 wat was your weight before your 1st cycle?

[pitweiler]

6ft and 190 wat was your weight before your 1st cycle?

I was 170 ( I know It was a stupid move)

[crazy mike]

WE all make and have made mistakes. Jut pick it up and make sure you have it all before you start. Good luck...crazy mike

[pitweiler]

WE all make and have made mistakes. Jut pick it up and make sure you have it all before you start. Good luck...crazy mike

That's my plan. I'm not starting it for at least a couple months. I just want to get everything in order before and make sure it's correct.
Going to post up my diet again as well

As far as blood work. How do you go about doing this with a doctor without throwing up red flags?

[< <Samson> >]

As far as blood work. How do you go about doing this with a doctor without throwing up red flags?

Go to a independent local lab

As far as test Vs. Deca - I'd pass on trying out luck with Deca dick. If you want to run 500mg of test, kick the Deca down. Or kick the test up if you want to keep the Deca @ 400mg - this is from everything I have read & what I will be doing on my 1st Deca run.

I will be running 400mg of Deca, but I am considering 650-750mg's of test. Possibly 800mg per week.

This is what I have heard from numerous people who run Deca regularly.