first time user need advice

[saulsz]

this is my first cycle ive ever planned on doing and I just want to do a 5 to 8 week cycle of test no orals or anything. ive been told test cyp 250 is a good first cycle by my friends that have been using for awhile but I don't want to gain a lot of water weight or fat I want to try and stay cut up like I already am. Ive also told deca 250 is good for gaining size but staying cut but its not good to use alone due to deca dick. I just want to know what a good first cycle of test would be for me with the least amount of sides and best way to keep my gains, proper pct, etc.

im 5'10" 148lbs skinny as hell. my goal is to weigh 170-175 eventually. just want to bulk up a little and stay cut not get massively huge. thanks

[redz]

Neither of those compounds should be ran for 5-8 weeks. You need to work on diet at 148lbs you need to learn to eat.

[Back In Black]

You have 6 years before the correct age to start AAS. As redz says, eat. And then eat some more.

Please make sure you visit our nutrition forum.

[clarky.]

welcome 19 is far too young mate educate yourself and you will see this

[brazey]

Welcome to the board.

[crazy mike]

Welcome. Do some reading like the young and steroids. You are way too young. ...crazy mike

[nevertilt]

Welcome

[saulsz]

You have 6 years before the correct age to start AAS. As redz says, eat. And then eat some more.

Please make sure you visit our nutrition forum.

that has always been an issue for me gaining weight. no matter how much I eat I can never seem to gain any weight. and s far as the age goes, ive been told that a few times but i have a few friends that have been using aas since they were 17 and its worked very well for them. it just seems like its the only thing that really works because i have yet to run across any supplements that actually work unless you have any suggestions? like the stuff from buysteroids.com, are they legit supplements worth the money?

[MuscleInk]

that has always been an issue for me gaining weight. no matter how much I eat I can never seem to gain any weight. and s far as the age goes, ive been told that a few times but i have a few friends that have been using aas since they were 17 and its worked very well for them. it just seems like its the only thing that really works because i have yet to run across any supplements that actually work unless you have any suggestions?

If you aren't gaining, you AREN'T eating enough. Steroids won't make you grow. FOOD makes you grow.

If you're sure your diet isn't the problem, post everything you are yesterday and today including the major macronutrients and total caloric intake. Do you know your TDEE and how much above this number you should eat to grow?

[bdos]

that has always been an issue for me gaining weight. no matter how much I eat I can never seem to gain any weight. and s far as the age goes, ive been told that a few times but i have a few friends that have been using aas since they were 17 and its worked very well for them. it just seems like its the only thing that really works because i have yet to run across any supplements that actually work unless you have any suggestions?

you dont need any supplements just real food, have you worked out your tdee and a marco breakdown into a real diet or just eat whatever whenever?

[saulsz]

you dont need any supplements just real food, have you worked out your tdee and a marco breakdown into a real diet or just eat whatever whenever?

you lost me at TDEE guys. i obviously don't know the best approach at getting bigger that's why im on this forum

[MuscleInk]

you lost me at TDEE guys. i obviously don't know the best approach at getting bigger that's why im on this forum

That answer illustrates that you aren't ready to benefit from steroids yet. TDEE is total daily energy expenditure and its calculated by Lean Body Mass (LBM) x 15 (this is the best approximation). LBM is your body weight minus your body fat. So if you weigh 150lbs (for example) and had a body fat percentage of 20%, your LBM would be:

150 x .20 = 30, and your LBM would be 150-30=120lbs. Your approximate TDEE is then 120 x 15 = 1800 calories. That means to STAY at the same weight, you'd need to eat 1800 calories per day. To gain weight, at least 500 calories more per day (2300) and to lose weight, about 500 calories less per day (1300).

If you aren't eating more than your TDEE, you simply cannot gain and hold more LBM. Steroids won't compensate if you aren't eating to support growth and its not just how much food but the ratio of macros, number, and frequency of meals.

This is why we ask the question. Too many young guys or newbies thinking jumping into anabolics is the answer. If you don't have the fundamentals down (food, training, rest periods), you won't grow.

[saulsz]

That answer illustrates that you aren't ready to benefit from steroids yet. TDEE is total daily energy expenditure and its calculated by Lean Body Mass (LBM) x 15 (this is the best approximation). LBM is your body weight minus your body fat. So if you weigh 150lbs (for example) and had a body fat percentage of 20%, your LBM would be:

150 x .20 = 30, and your LBM would be 150-30=120lbs. Your approximate TDEE is then 120 x 15 = 1800 calories. That means to STAY at the same weight, you'd need to eat 1800 calories per day. To gain weight, at least 500 calories more per day (2300) and to lose weight, about 500 calories less per day (1300).

If you aren't eating more than your TDEE, you simply cannot gain and hold more LBM. Steroids won't compensate if you aren't eating to support growth and its not just how much food but the ratio of macros, number, and frequency of meals.

This is why we ask the question. Too many young guys or newbies thinking jumping into anabolics is the answer. If you don't have the fundamentals down (food, training, rest periods), you won't grow.

alright man thanks for the information that helps alot

[MuscleInk]

alright man thanks for the information that helps alot

No problem at all. That's why we're here. The guys in the nutrition section can help you improve your nutrition plan to make sure you're getting all the necessary macros to support growth.

Good luck.

[ZaLkeN]

Go into bearmode bro. Eat your heart out then come back.

[Java Man]

that has always been an issue for me gaining weight. no matter how much I eat I can never seem to gain any weight. and s far as the age goes, ive been told that a few times but i have a few friends that have been using aas since they were 17 and its worked very well for them. it just seems like its the only thing that really works because i have yet to run across any supplements that actually work unless you have any suggestions? like the stuff from buysteroids.com, are they legit supplements worth the money?

You won't grow no matter how many drugs you throw down if you don't eat enough to foster new growth. You sound like me when I was 19 and I was skinnier than you are now. steroids didn't help. I wasn't growing because I wasn't eating enough. It took me years to learn what eating a lot really meant. You will gain 30lbs on nothing but food if you eat correctly and in enough quantity. .

[Java Man]

Oh yeah I almost forgot... Welcome to the forums! now off to the diet and nutrition section with you!