best peptide for fat burning, but not increasing appetite?

[VenicePump]

What is the best HGH peptide to increase fat burning, but not increasing appetite. I use other things to promote muscle growth, but need something to help maximize my fat burning along with my client diet I been using. I have heard the HGH 176-191 promotes fat burning without increasing appetite.

Anyone have experience with this?

[diabeticknowledge]

well there is only one "hgh peptide" and that is 191 amino. maybe you should just eat lower calorie food and use stimulants, caffene, nicotine etc.

medical igf-1 might be something similar to what you describe, and no its not hgh frag or anything like that

[M302_Imola]

GHRP-2 and Mod GRF. These peptides will cause the pituitary to release endogenous GH and thus could lead to lean muscle gains and/or fatloss.

[jimmyinkedup]

GHRP-2 and Mod GRF. These peptides will cause the pituitary to release endogenous GH and thus could lead to lean muscle gains and/or fatloss.

This. GHRP2 will not impact appetite like ghrp 6. Good call.

[spywizard]

gw501. Not a peptide as you are thinking, however, it's one of the few things that will make it possible for you to do more cardio, and thus facilitate what you are looking for.

Sorry we still don't know what the magic pill for fat loss is..

[M302_Imola]

This. GHRP2 will not impact appetite like ghrp 6. Good call.

Thanks Jimmy! Hope all is well!

[jimmyinkedup]

Thanks Jimmy! Hope all is well!

It is my friend...back at you!

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Well here is some 411 from a 54 year old man on TRT balanced after a year no thanks to my Dr. but by reading this forum and getting 2 scripts from my Dr. and one searching the Internet . I have gone from 266 to 226 and my low 2 mths ago was 215 .

I am on my way up with Lean gains and still for an old fart happy 6 ft 224 to 228 depending on how clean I can keep my diet during the holidays ? I try hard to eat proper and have actually passed on some of the best Southern cooking that will be seen the whole year !

I have researched personally and have research to back up my reports on Peptides : I will break them down in cargories due to they are not all the same as in the way you use them or the proticall and results I actually saw . So this means I am giving you 1st hand research and not what a guy at the gym told me !

Pure target burning belly fat is the one listed and the cheaper of 2 IMO in the same catgory : INJECT Sub-Q
HGH Frag 176 - 191 is a target belly fat and it comes in higher mg per vial than the other in this belly fat target fat burning peptides . IMO they do work because my diet has remained the same and gear and peps were changed to get good fair results !

The better of these 2 is ADO - 9604 and IMO the better of the 2 and harder to find & more expensive but IMO you will see better results due to actual claimed ( build lean muscle and burn belly fat ) and I wanted to so I did see what I wanted to see . These were not lab conditions I know you get less mg's and reconsitute the same for both I add 2 + mL of Bac water to either vial and the ADO - 9604 will burn more belly fat and build or retain more lean muscle . Both are to be used for 45 days on and 45 days off ! The proticall pin in the am 2 tics on an slin pin and forget until tomorrow pin daily. I would and do actually see that my belly fat in the flexor are is getting thinner and start to see my flexors .

I trained from 21 to 28 years old and juiced enough to require a Gyno operation at thye age of 28 so I am a big time advocate of wait until you are 28 to do gear and I think the age recommended by this forum is 26 and there are a lot of new guys as young as 21 asking question without a clue as to what they are doing ! Even if they have the knowledge to cycle they can't defeat mother nature 25 yrs. old is the youngest possible age to consider gear and not expect sides right now or for sure later in life ( THAT BEING SAID I AM NO PRO OR EXPERT ) I have been back training 13 mths and lost 60 lbs of fat and added muscle so I am happy and now starting to work on good lead size to add so I will be using a lot of peptides and less gear !

PT-141 Is used for male or female sexual stimulation and comes in 10 mg vials and I reconstitute @ 2 mg & 1 ml of bac water and for about a 2 hour before planned sexual activity or you will be walking around embarassed due to wood I have not found a female willing to Sub - Q this yet so don't know ladies so for a libido inject, INJECT 3 TICS FROM SLIN PIN wait about 2 hours and go for it for 7 hours OF THE RIDE OF YOUR LIFE AT ANY AGE Sub-Q Injection ( BUT ANOTHER USE IS A W/O BOOST ) Inject 1 tic before w/o and no embarassing wood issues and I felt an increase in energy or drive have very good driven w/o using in this manner

I am not clear as to what the 2 gents before this post were saying but if I read what they posted correctly IMO they are repeating what someone told them because GHRP - 2 will make you so hungery that you have to eat and can not even g to sleep and that is why many compaies have stopped even selling GHRP - 2 . It makes you so hngery you can not control you eating and you gain weight but not clean weight due to being Sooooo hungery ! ! ! The GHRP - 6 will not make you hungery at all ! This info I am sharing is from 1st hand research and not repeated . So I am not tryig to prove me right or the wrong ; I am just sharing my research and you can ask around on the forum and see , so who am I to say just an old guy that eats 6 to 7 times a day and targets all protein and I still get all the fats and carbs I need with cotage cheese and yougart and almond milk , cocanut water and a gal of water a day and a qt. of southern Iced tea.

Now as for the combo that I have not seen listed properly yet in this thread and in very few actually is cjc 1295 - w/o DAC / GHRP - 2 / GHRP - 6 / and Semorlin or Impromil . These should all be reconstitutd at 1 mL of Bac Water per mg of product and do not mix until actual injection time . I had a problem with these finding the fat burning ability but did gain weight but honestly can't say PURE LEAN weight the cjc 1295 w/o DAC is the trigger for your pamcras to start releasing natural GH so cjc 1295 w/o DAC is inject with every injection and so is the Semorlin or Imprmil these are the closest Peptides you can get that come the closest to HGH and not shut down natural GH production like real HGH does so healthiser for you !

All of these are reconstituted at 1 mL per mg of product and research to see if you would rather use semorlin or Impromil both act similiar but both effect different parts of your endo in a different way I take Semorlin year round non stop daily . Go to YOUTUBE and search these 2 and there are some good pod cast and some bad but the bad ones ar so bad they jump out at you one is of a guy that just smoled about a lb of weed and tried to make a pod cast ? Still which evr on of these inject with every injection .

Inject GHRP @ am Pre w/o and post w/o pin GHRP 6 nor you will not be able to go to sleep because you will eat everything mot nailed down . the GHRP - 2 is BA you have to keep plenty of clen food around because after the rush and in about 30 minutes you wil eat 10 lbs of food

Now for dosage 1 tic cjc 1295 w/o DAC 2 tics GHRP - 2 Am and 1 hour Pre w/o and 2 tics of GHRP - 6 post w/o and Semorlin or Impromil 2 tics per injection = 3 a day and a 1 mL Syringe will have 5 to 6 tics of liquid to

Sub - Q into your belly . 3 pins a day
3 x's a day cjc 1295 w/o DAC
3 x's a day Semorlin or Impromlin
2 x's a day GHRP - 2
1 x a day GHZRP - 6

Do this combo as long as you want no such thing as a cycle when you are simulating / stimulating natural GH with this combo you will have max GH release at the proper times upon waking - pre w/o - post w/o wnd this will be while sleeping This is when the muscle really repairs and grows !

I did not notice any fat loose but great gain in muscle and lean body weight I did for 5 mths and now I take Semorlin at 3 tics daily got to YOUTUBE and watch the clowns talk about Semorlin and Improlin

Good fortune !

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

well there is only one "hgh peptide" and that is 191 amino. maybe you should just eat lower calorie food and use stimulants, caffene, nicotine etc.

medical igf-1 might be something similar to what you describe, and no its not hgh frag or anything like that

You need to reread up on your peptides it is called HGH Frag 176 - 191 & ADO 9604 Both of these lay claim to targeting pure Belly Fat Cell Burning and I have tried both and like them a lot but you don't even alternate then you do them 45 days on and 45 days off !

You will notice the most results if you are real clean with the diet and most of that hardest part of your belly gone at least to the point where you can see your top flexor and then you will be able to notice how much they work

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

What is the best HGH peptide to increase fat burning, but not increasing appetite. I use other things to promote muscle growth, but need something to help maximize my fat burning along with my client diet I been using. I have heard the HGH 176-191 promotes fat burning without increasing appetite.

Anyone have experience with this?

Do notr let anyone talk you into GHRP - 2 you will eat all the food in the house !


Yeah man you are close to right and all the letters and # do get hard to remember if you are not using them in a regular proticall , close and right a little with the words just turned around the one I think you are refrencing is called HGH Frag 176 - 191 & ADO 9604 is a different branch chain amino Both of these lay claim to targeting pure Belly Fat Cell Burning and I have tried both and like them a lot but you don't even alternate then you do either one of them 45 days on and 45 days off ! for some reason it is recommended that you take a break so it will deliver peak results to the goal you seek ?

You will notice the most results if you are real clean with the diet and most of that hardest part of your belly gone at least to the point where you can see your top flexor and then you will be able to notice how much they work

I posted a detailed post on reconstitution and dose and how often to use along with the Amino Branch chains of GHRP - 2 & GHRP - 6 , additionally why you use cjc 1295 w/o DAC and 2 more near HG peptides that you should stack with them I think there is enough detail there but if not pm me and I will try to answer any research questions you may have with the knowledge I have or Times Roman can answer alot about peptides he has delt with ?

Also go to the sponsor's page that comes across the screen everytime you login and you can click on it and then search the name of the item or compound even gear and it will tell you uses and stacks to go with them ! There is some great ino there that really does help with remembering no matter how much experience you have they have so much detailed info that I always pick up something I forgot

lol ! It would be foolish to pick - up nicotieen just to loose weight and caloric intake is not as important as what you get your calories from ? ie. You said you were on a client Diet ? I am an old guy 54 never heard of it but I do know the old tried and proven a Gram of Carbs has 4 calories and is burned when you train , w/o or exercise also fat at 9 calories a gram is also burned as energy when you workout . Then IMO your proteins is another 4 calorie per gram food that I am sure you know is basicly what makes you muscle and the small carrb load pre and post w/o ; has really worked well for me . I target a tight protein only diet and still with the foods and even your protein shakes you will get 20% to 30% combo of fat and carbs that is not to say you could not cut some of those carbs and fats out of your diet because even veggies are carbs and you want to keep your macros balanced for your goals no matter where the carbs or protein comes from food or a shake your bodies digestive system can only ingest 30 grams of protein an hour so any moe in a shake or chicken , fish, turkey. buffalo, egg whites or what ever why waste food or supplements or gear by doing more than needed ? If you cut out all carbs and fats you would have no fuel then and be slugish there by being a slug and not wanting to go to the gym ! If you read this and have time share you diet and stats ? I hear people on here talking about the paleo diet and if you go to the nutrition section you will find that every detail you could imigine they have broken down into a sicience

[DPTUK]

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[BuzzardMarinePumper]

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[M302_Imola]

It is my friend...back at you!

Doing good as well bro!

Do notr let anyone talk you into GHRP - 2 you will eat all the food in the house !

Are you sure you're not referring to GHRP-6? 6 is known to induce hunger, although some have reported this with GHRP-2. I personally don't have the hunger increase with GHRP-2 and I've been on it for over a year.

I have no idea whatsoever about what peptides are or how they work and right now I really don't have the patience or energy to learn new things with the amount of things I have on my plate so just want to ask a simple question.

If I am already taking human grade GH do I need to be messing around or is there any advantage to taking peptides on top?

Simple answers will do.

You can piggyback your HGH shot on top of peptides (GHRP/GHRH) if you would like. What this does is tricks the body into thinking its released an endogenous GH pulse instead of an exogenous pulse (which the HGH induces). The advantage to this you don't get any negative feedback from HGH. What I mean by negative feedback is when HGH is injected the body doesn't need to produce endogenous GH as it already has a source for GH. So over time when using HGH your body stops creating natural (endogenous) GH pulses because it's getting artificial (exogenous) HGH. This is especially so when large amounts of HGH are being used (5-10iu).

So what you do is pin your peptides (GHRP/GHRH), which will induce the pituitary to release a GH pulse, and then 10 mins later you inject your HGH (preferably IM). The body sees this a huge natural release in GH so no negative feedback will take place.

Hope this helps, I've dumbed down as best as I could.

[DPTUK]

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[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Doing good as well bro!



Are you sure you're not referring to GHRP-6? 6 is known to induce hunger, although some have reported this with GHRP-2. I personally don't have the hunger increase with GHRP-2 and I've been on it for over a year.



You can piggyback your HGH shot on top of peptides (GHRP/GHRH) if you would like. What this does is tricks the body into thinking its released an endogenous GH pulse instead of an exogenous pulse (which the HGH induces). The advantage to this you don't get any negative feedback from HGH. What I mean by negative feedback is when HGH is injected the body doesn't need to produce endogenous GH as it already has a source for GH. So over time when using HGH your body stops creating natural (endogenous) GH pulses because it's getting artificial (exogenous) HGH. This is especially so when large amounts of HGH are being used (5-10iu).

So what you do is pin your peptides (GHRP/GHRH), which will induce the pituitary to release a GH pulse, and then 10 mins later you inject your HGH (preferably IM). The body sees this a huge natural release in GH so no negative feedback will take place.

Hope this helps, I've dumbed down as best as I could.

I ask as I have no perspoal use only what I have read and discussed with my Dr. HGH shuts down you natural GH there for you will not boost what you do not produce ? Please explain this to me ?

Oh me and 3 other older guys took some strong GHRP - 2 and we all had the same issues with the uncontrolable unrer that goes with GHRP - 2 , not just me this was 4 men total age 49 to 55 the gereactic group not young guys ! But also had a ypung friend 28 who took cjc 1295 w/o DAC and Semorlin and GHRP - 2 and he had the uncontrolable hungar at night and changed to GHRP - 6 and hungar pais were controlable ? . Peptides will not hurt you more are naturall in you body already just the molocules been swapped or remved from the peptide to give an Inhanced effect IMO if on HGH no reason to take peptides IMO they would be a waste of $$$ when already on real HGH - and HGH causes GH shut down of natural GH ? That is why no big deal for men 50 to be taking HGH their natural GH has naturally almost stopped producing and also why less of a dose is needed for 60 + men 3 tic am and 3 tics pm . This si from research not use and I don't have personal knowledge of use of HGH but have done all the research and I feel I have gained enough info to understand how it works and what age will see the most results >

Again only from research of how endo works and how hgh EFFECTS ID . i DO HAVE PERSONAL 1ST HAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE PEPIDES AND THE HUNDER i MENTIONED

[Anonona]

BuzzardMarinePumper,

Can you please provide evidence for ADO nine six zero four (SPAM software can blow me)? Were there any lifestyle changes when you were supplementing with this peptide?
My understanding is that this substance was dropped from research as funding was pulled- it wasn't clinically proven as the anti-obesiety they thought it would be. I believe the patent holders will be attempting(if not already) to push it through the US FDA as a supplement and nothing more.

Cheers,

[M302_Imola]

Thanks bro I understand what you are saying now about peptide use and tricking your body etc, however simple question, rather than taking peptides to do this, wouldn't it be simpler just to inject more GH, wouldn't the net result be the same thing or have I totally missed something here?

Well you've missed the whole idea of why you piggyback GH with peptides. The reason is so you don't shut down your endogenous GH production. Peptides and their endogenous GH release will never amount to the grossly elevated GH levels that HGH will bring to the table, but when you inject HGH (solely) your endogenous GH production is slowed down or halted depending on the amount of HGH injected.

I ask as I have no perspoal use only what I have read and discussed with my Dr. HGH shuts down you natural GH there for you will not boost what you do not produce ? Please explain this to me ?

Oh me and 3 other older guys took some strong GHRP - 2 and we all had the same issues with the uncontrolable unrer that goes with GHRP - 2 , not just me this was 4 men total age 49 to 55 the gereactic group not young guys ! But also had a ypung friend 28 who took cjc 1295 w/o DAC and Semorlin and GHRP - 2 and he had the uncontrolable hungar at night and changed to GHRP - 6 and hungar pais were controlable ? . Peptides will not hurt you more are naturall in you body already just the molocules been swapped or remved from the peptide to give an Inhanced effect IMO if on HGH no reason to take peptides IMO they would be a waste of $$$ when already on real HGH - and HGH causes GH shut down of natural GH ? That is why no big deal for men 50 to be taking HGH their natural GH has naturally almost stopped producing and also why less of a dose is needed for 60 + men 3 tic am and 3 tics pm . This si from research not use and I don't have personal knowledge of use of HGH but have done all the research and I feel I have gained enough info to understand how it works and what age will see the most results >

Again only from research of how endo works and how hgh EFFECTS ID . i DO HAVE PERSONAL 1ST HAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE PEPIDES AND THE HUNDER i MENTIONED

Yes your natural GH production diminishes as you age so a 50 year old man wouldn't produce naturally what a 25 year old does. Your question is somewhat confusing but I think what you're asking is if peptides will actually help a 50 year old man since little GH is produced naturally? If that is indeed your question then peptides have been shown to work well in older men since they help strengthen your endogenous GH pulses. Some have reported that they feel like they're 25 again since GH levels have been strengthened.

As far as GHRP-2 causing hunger pains it does in some but not in most people I've talked to or read about. I know it doesn't effect me that way. Just like anything else though, individual results will differ.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

BuzzardMarinePumper,

Can you please provide evidence for ADO nine six zero four (SPAM software can blow me)? Were there any lifestyle changes when you were supplementing with this peptide?
My understanding is that this substance was dropped from research as funding was pulled- it wasn't clinically proven as the anti-obesiety they thought it would be. I believe the patent holders will be attempting(if not already) to push it through the US FDA as a supplement and nothing more.

Cheers,

Only that I saw better rsults from ADO 9604 that I did HGH Frag 176 - 191 and that was just my personal research I did like the fat loose and muscle retention better with the ADO 9604 ? J IMO .

Oh just a thought here to keep in mind I don't know what you are reading or where you are getting info from but Peptides are not for use on humans and therefore the research test read are on lab rat and not supposed to be on humans and the only human research you will have is what you have tried and can prove to have benifits to you !

Neither on of the GHRP 's will benifit you if not used in conjunction with cjc 1295 w/o DAC ? The cjc triggers the pancras to start releasing GHand the GHRP's increase this release . But just the opposite with semorlin it will naturally cause an increased release of GH without cjc 1295 w/o DAC and the W/o DAC is the primary factor in making this combo work .

[M302_Imola]

Neither one of the GHRP 's will benifit you if not used in conjunction with cjc 1295 w/o DAC ? The cjc triggers the pancras to start releasing GHand the GHRP's increase this release.

Well you're right you should pair your GHRP of choice (GHRP-2, GHRP-6, ipamorelin) with a GHRH (cjc-1295 no DAC or Mod GRF). The two work together and cause a much stronger GH pulse compared to just a GHRP alone. That being said, your body will still release some GH when a GHRP is used soley, but it won't touch the pulse that the combo creates. So good looking out there Buzzard.

[Anonona]

Only that I saw better rsults from ADO 9604 that I did HGH Frag 176 - 191 and that was just my personal research I did like the fat loose and muscle retention better with the ADO 9604 ? J IMO .

Oh just a thought here to keep in mind I don't know what you are reading or where you are getting info from but Peptides are not for use on humans and therefore the research test read are on lab rat and not supposed to be on humans and the only human research you will have is what you have tried and can prove to have benifits to you !

Neither on of the GHRP 's will benifit you if not used in conjunction with cjc 1295 w/o DAC ? The cjc triggers the pancras to start releasing GHand the GHRP's increase this release . But just the opposite with semorlin it will naturally cause an increased release of GH without cjc 1295 w/o DAC and the W/o DAC is the primary factor in making this combo work .

oh, this is all hypothetical, i am intrigued by the study of animals that share a similar reaction to as us, as this helps shed light on the future of medicine.

That said, a number of peptides have been through clinical trials (or are going through them at the moment) directly on human subjects.

[Endomorph47]

I am looking into Adipotide 5mg, they say it is the best for fat burning, looks very interesting.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Well you're right you should pair your GHRP of choice (GHRP-2, GHRP-6, ipamorelin) with a GHRH (cjc-1295 no DAC or Mod GRF). The two work together and cause a much stronger GH pulse compared to just a GHRP alone. That being said, your body will still release some GH when a GHRP is used soley, but it won't touch the pulse that the combo creates. So good looking out there Buzzard.

I wish I could say thank you I am just a smart MF . . . . lol but MMA fightervLargerthan normal taught me about the GHRP at night and the cjc 1295 w?O dac TO TRIGGER TH RELEASE OF gh

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Well you're right you should pair your GHRP of choice (GHRP-2, GHRP-6, ipamorelin) with a GHRH (cjc-1295 no DAC or Mod GRF). The two work together and cause a much stronger GH pulse compared to just a GHRP alone. That being said, your body will still release some GH when a GHRP is used soley, but it won't touch the pulse that the combo creates. So good looking out there Buzzard.

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[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I am looking into Adipotide 5mg, they say it is the best for fat burning, looks very interesting.

Is it at GNC ? I never heard of it ?

[Endomorph47]

Is it at GNC ? I never heard of it ?

No not a GNC product, it is a peptide.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

What Branch Chainis it derived from ? After quick scan no detailed info and threads on other nforums are old ?

FDA already has their hands on it so it will cost way to much and then be taken off the market because Dumb Ars druggies abuse it !

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[Ultra7580]

5mg of adipotide would so nothing. Research has show you would need a gram for 30 days worth.

[kelkel]

oh, this is all hypothetical, i am intrigued by the study of animals that share a similar reaction to as us, as this helps shed light on the future of medicine.

That said, a number of peptides have been through clinical trials (or are going through them at the moment) directly on human subjects.

The bodybuilding community has always paved the way for the scientific community...

[Endomorph47]

5mg of adipotide would so nothing. Research has show you would need a gram for 30 days worth.

I did not say to use 5mg, but that is how the solution come from peptide co.

[Endomorph47]

And I just ordered a few vails of the product and will do research with it soon.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

[QUOTE=Endomorph47;6761248 [COLOR="#0000FF"] I did not say to use 5mg, but that is how the solution come from peptide co [/COLOR] QUOTE]


What peptide did you order to research with ?

ADO 9604 comes 2 mg as a general amount *** This is my favorite

HGH Frag 171-196 commonly is sold in 5 mg vialss

Both not for humans , for Research purposes only

[Endomorph47]

Adipotide 5mg. That is what I ordered. I have used Frag and Sermorelin before with good results.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

lol ! SUX ! DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO I HAVE JUST STOPPED WITH 30 ML OR 30 MG OD mASTERON AND SHOWED HIGH ON A PSA TEST AND I HAVE TO GO SEE A SPECIALIST ABOUT PROSTATE CANCER SO NO MORE GROWTH UNTIL I SEE THE SPECIALIST !

Adipotide 5mg I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ON ANY PEPTIDE SITE I USE ? bUT THAT WILL EVAPORATE LIKE ALL FAT BURNING STRANDS AND YOU WILL DO GOOD TO GET 18 DAYS OUT OF IT AT 1 msg OR 1 TIC A DAY

[Endomorph47]

lol ! SUX ! DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO I HAVE JUST STOPPED WITH 30 ML OR 30 MG OD mASTERON AND SHOWED HIGH ON A PSA TEST AND I HAVE TO GO SEE A SPECIALIST ABOUT PROSTATE CANCER SO NO MORE GROWTH UNTIL I SEE THE SPECIALIST !

Adipotide 5mg I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ON ANY PEPTIDE SITE I USE ? bUT THAT WILL EVAPORATE LIKE ALL FAT BURNING STRANDS AND YOU WILL DO GOOD TO GET 18 DAYS OUT OF IT AT 1 msg OR 1 TIC A DAY

Google is your best friend or send me a pm, can not mention sources on here do not want to get in trouble.

[Times Roman]

not a pep, but i'd like to try T3 at some point.

too skinny to consider right at the moment....

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Oh I have heard of T-3 thanks I am not researching for a little mwhile I will either back off or try everything

[Juced_porkchop]

GHRP-2 and Mod GRF. These peptides will cause the pituitary to release endogenous GH and thus could lead to lean muscle gains and/or fatloss.

yep, agreed mod GRF is a vary vague term that can actually be many peptides. I would highly rec GHRP-2 and Sermorelin , 100mcg 2-4x a day for 4-6 months.

I am not a big fan of the frag hgh..

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

yep, agreed mod GRF is a vary vague term that can actually be many peptides. I would highly rec GHRP-2 and Sermorelin , 100mcg 2-4x a day for 4-6 months.

I am not a big fan of the frag hgh..

I know GHRP - 2 lays claim to fat burning but man the hunder that goes with it is uncontrolable and I have even head that it's fat bburning even over comes the excess food intake and I swear by Semorelin daily year round but I personally have only been researching 1 time a day not sayin that more id not beter ? It is very affordable and Sub-Q is a breeze to use IMO

Personally I do find from my research that ADO 9604 works the best and I also do like HGH Frag 176 - 191 Just IMO and from personal research . But not lab conditions I was seeking a result and I saw what I was seeking so that makes my test flawed