Prostrate Cancer to worry or not or is Dr. just practicing medicine Is Ha a DA

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

OK I have been very concerned and at 1st was beside myself with worry and concern ? But after reading the URL below and many wide range notes and trying to lol make an educated decission if I am able to do that ? This URL offers a well of information on the Prostrate & detection , treatment and causes and how out of date some Dr. are in their testing , such as the PSA test in it's self ! Additionally some of the things that cause enlarged prostrate; one seemed to cause an enlarged prostrate and this is very common in TRT ; elevated estrogen levels ?

Well my Dr. that I see has allowed my estrogen levels to be as high as 78 and in the above 70 range for over 7 or 8 mths and finaly the DA prescribes me Generic Adex at 1 mg a day and I did know thanks to this forum not to take that much but this quack was out of stupity prescribing me the dose that is prescribed to women with cancer to totally block estrogen in cancer pacientents not even knowing or caring enough to read the proper dose for men on TRT ?

Also HCG has a factor in preventing the enlargement of the prostrate and he refuses to precribe it because he is a DA and say that is that drug that is being abused by diet clinics and I don't think that diet is healthy ! When I try to explain it to him how that today it is used in conjunction with HRT he tell me like a smart ass if I don't like the way he is treating me I can find another Dr, (well I interviewed 2 others and they were females and bigger Ship for brains than he is ! No injections gel only and that's no HCG and no AI's ) at least with this quack I can get an Ai and cut it with a pill cutter and I get Testosterone prescribed at 200 mg EOW ; which I inject myself at 80mg every 3.5 days . So basiclly I am reading this forum and self medicating + I have a legal script for Testosterone even thou without Insurance it is cheaper at the supplement store I saw what Muscle Inc wrote and he said his PSA jumped from 11 to 5 to 7 basiclly all over the place and he did not indicate that he had Prostrate Cancer .

Am I worried ? Yes but not just about my Goof ball Dr. and givig me the scare of my life with a BW PSA reading of 7 and indicated to me I had prostrate cancer and from what I have read over the past couple of days , non of the reads on the Internet have a deep conviction of me being a candiadiate for Prostrate Cancer ? From what I read my Dr. is the only one convienced that I have prostrate cancer and If anything I would am going to assume it was from his lack of knowledge of TRT and allowing my E2 to remain so elevated so long and not doing anything or being concerned until I pitched a fit in his office and he finaly scrripted me an Ai and it was still a dangerous dose ? I know Dr. have room for error but does anyonne think the incopentance of this Dr reaches the level of Mal Practice ? Or do you just charge him with being stupid ?

Please I welcome opinions on Prostrate Cancer and the stupity of him as a Dr. ? Is he just a dumb Dr. or does his lack lack of proper treatment and causing me health dangers reach the level of malpractice ?

Not just over reacting I am really pissed and also concerned as to were to turn from here ? I can'[t afford lowtestosterone.com due to family issues that have arrision and they are not an opition at thi time ? It almost seems like this Dr. lack of knowledge is going to cause me serious health issues ? He is playing Dr and does not know what he is doing ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Any and all opinons are welcome even if you don't view this as I do ? Help me understand why I should not be upset with this Dr. lack of knowledge ? I appears his actions rise to a level of danger to pacients treated and not just a small misjudged treatment once in a while but but to allow estrogen level to rise to the level the a pacients prostrate is enlarged and lack of proper meds when treating TRT ? Is Test , HCG , and an Ai if needed standard and accepted and he is just not up to date on proper treatment ? Is there a medicial standard for baseline treatment of TRT ? If so how does he get away with not following base line treatment sadly just because he is to lazy to update his medicial knowledge ?

Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA) Test - National Cancer Institute

[MuscleInk]

I'll give you some info later on risk factors for prostate disease and we can discuss further.

[bass]

for whatever its worth, I've noticed more frequent urination when my estrogen gets high, and less when I lower it with AI.

[AD]

I'll give you some info later on risk factors for prostate disease and we can discuss further.

To op. Notice how MI spells it?

[MuscleInk]

To op. Notice how MI spells it?

PROSTRATE:
1. Lying face down, as in submission or adoration.
2. Lying flat or at full length.
3. Reduced to extreme weakness or incapacitation; overcome.
4. Botany Growing flat along the ground.

PROSTATE
A compound tubuloalveolar exocrine gland of the male reproductive system in most mammals that differs considerably among species.

[AD]

PROSTRATE:
1. Lying face down, as in submission or adoration.
2. Lying flat or at full length.
3. Reduced to extreme weakness or incapacitation; overcome.
4. Botany Growing flat along the ground.

PROSTATE
A compound tubuloalveolar exocrine gland of the male reproductive system in most mammals that differs considerably among species.

thanks MI!

maybe i'm ocd, but reading about "prostrate" cancer just drives me crazy! lol

[Igifuno]

Do we need to start a new thread for AD? Lol

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

OK I'll play so when I spell it prostrate I am wrong ?

Well if prostate is correct it should be wrong and I may change the a way the world spells it !
If I find out I have prostate cancer I am going to inject everything xaxxanxdrex says he does and try the Mcdonalds diet and see if I loose weight

[Lunk1]

OK I'll play so when I spell it prostrate I am wrong ?

Well if prostate is correct it should be wrong and I may change the a way the world spells it !
If I find out I have prostate cancer I am going to inject everything xaxxanxdrex says he does and try the Mcdonalds diet and see if I loose weight

^^^^^Now that was actually funny lol.

Serious note: Buzz your still freaking out when in reality you need further testing to confirm a number of things. Until then you may as well chill and concentrate on what you CAN control.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Yeah you are probably right but I had trouble sleeping last night worst that finding out your wife is going to have twins ? SO I researched a lot and modern upto date Dr, do not Freak over a 7 they observ and check again in 3 mth because yours and my PSA BW reading can change drasticly over a 6 mth period ! SO that is why I am thinking my Dr. is doing the best he can the only thing is the best he an do is what he was taught 30 years ago ad he has not bothered to keep up with changes in medician and I don't guess there are any rules that say he has to but I think he tries and is just 2013 ignorant and that is sad as in I need a new Dr . ?

If he has not learned anything new in 39 years your average student nurse in college knows more than him Soooooooo he tries but when he is practiccing on my body I am not kwel with that !

[Lunk1]

Yeah you are probably right but I had trouble sleeping last night worst that finding out your wife is going to have twins ? SO I researched a lot and modern upto date Dr, do not Freak over a 7 they observ and check again in 3 mth because yours and my PSA BW reading can change drasticly over a 6 mth period ! SO that is why I am thinking my Dr. is doing the best he can the only thing is the best he an do is what he was taught 30 years ago ad he has not bothered to keep up with changes in medician and I don't guess there are any rules that say he has to but I think he tries and is just 2013 ignorant and that is sad as in I need a new Dr . ?

If he has not learned anything new in 39 years your average student nurse in college knows more than him Soooooooo he tries but when he is practiccing on my body I am not kwel with that !

In my experience this is quite common with GP MD's. That's why they schedule consults with specialists. If your doc hasn't referred you to a specialist then simply tell him/her that you want to see a specialist.

[MuscleInk]

If your PSA is as high as reported, your MD should already be sending you for a TRUS as I mentioned earlier. A digital recital exam would only confirm an enlarged and boggy (soft) prostate. An ultrasound, PET-CT, or DCE-MRI with a biopsy would be the needed tests to properly diagnose your situation. An enlarged prostate detected by manual examination (DRE, or "a finger up your butt test!!!") is inconclusive. Enlarged prostates can result from infection/inflammation, benign prostatic hyperplasia, or prostate cancer.

PSA scores, while predictive of disease, are NOT conclusive on their own.

Buzzard, I've treated men who've had PSAs well above 500 and biopsy and radiological tests indicated NO evidence of disease (meaning NO cancer). Likewise, I've treated men who were symptomatic for a swollen prostate, had NORMAL PSA scores of 1.3 and yet, pathology reports from a biopsy indicate they were POSITIVE for cancer. So, my point is, PSA scores from blood work are not sufficient enough to diagnose a person.

Moreover, while the Internet can provide some useful information on prostate morphology, function, and disease, you cannot entirely depend on it to diagnose your condition. You need to have additional tests by a radiologist and/or urologist to confirm your situation. Obsessing about a PSA score isn't going to help you or make you feel any better.

If your doctor hasn't scheduled further tests or referred you to a specialist (most commonly a urologist), then as Lunk has said, you need to insist your doctor do so.

[lovbyts]

I say nothing to worry about until further testing is done as mentioned above. I had borderline/high PSA for a while. It's normal on cycle. I went in for testing and even had a endoscopy done. Not a big deal and since I was over 40 it was time to have it done anyways.

Dont loose any sleep over it until you know more. At the end of the day I had nothing to worry about and hopefully you dont either.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

MI You say you treated guys with PSA of 500 so why would PSA of 7 throw a flag and also . . . . on the Internet they say the test and tretment is as bad or worse than natural progression of the condition because so little is actually factually known about the conditin ?

I go the 22 od Dec to a urologist for ???? he has treated my 2 uncles for 20 years I ws an orphan so that is not an indicator that it runs in my family ?

So If you are treating guys with PSA of 500 and not positive fpor Prostate cancer why are they being treated ?

I am leaning more towards if the Dr. doesn't turn green and freak when he reads my byospy I would just as soon ride it pout and let nature take it's course ?

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

If your PSA is as high as reported, your MD should already be sending you for a TRUS as I mentioned earlier. A digital recital exam would only confirm an enlarged and boggy (soft) prostate. An ultrasound, PET-CT, or DCE-MRI with a biopsy would be the needed tests to properly diagnose your situation. An enlarged prostate detected by manual examination (DRE, or "a finger up your butt test!!!") is inconclusive. Enlarged prostates can result from infection/inflammation, benign prostatic hyperplasia, or prostate cancer.

PSA scores, while predictive of disease, are NOT conclusive on their own.

Buzzard, I've treated men who've had PSAs well above 500 and biopsy and radiological tests indicated NO evidence of disease (meaning NO cancer). Likewise, I've treated men who were symptomatic for a swollen prostate, had NORMAL PSA scores of 1.3 and yet, pathology reports from a biopsy indicate they were POSITIVE for cancer. So, my point is, PSA scores from blood work are not sufficient enough to diagnose a person.

Moreover, while the Internet can provide some useful information on prostate morphology, function, and disease, you cannot entirely depend on it to diagnose your condition. You need to have additional tests by a radiologist and/or urologist to confirm your situation. Obsessing about a PSA score isn't going to help you or make you feel any better.

If your doctor hasn't scheduled further tests or referred you to a specialist (most commonly a urologist), then as Lunk has said, you need to insist your doctor do so.

Mus Ink You did see where it was just 7 didn't you ?

[MuscleInk]

Here's are the guiding criteria most MDs follow when evaluating PSAs:

0-2.5 is normal
2.6-4.0 annual testing and DRE
4.1-10.0 referral to urologist. Up to 50% risk of prostate disease
10.1 and above, more than 50% risk for prostate disease and cancer.

[MuscleInk]

Mus Ink You did see where it was just 7 didn't you ?

Yes. A PSA of 7 should trigger a referral to a radiologist or urologist for a differential diagnosis using one of the scan diagnostics mentioned. It is within the range for BPH, prostatitis, and prostate cancer but an accurate diagnosis is impossible without a scan and biopsy.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

[QUOTE=MuscleInk;6761320]Here's are the guiding criteria most MDs follow when evaluating PSAs:

0-2.5 is normal
2.6-4.0 annual testing and DRE
4.1-10.0 referral to urologist. Up to 50% risk of prostate diseaseThe words mt Dr. used were does not mean you have prostate cancer but more test need to be done to prove that I do not
10.1 and above, more than 50% risk for prostate disease and cancer. ] If my PSA was in this rane there ws good posibility that I hd prostate cancer and test needed to be run to see how to proceed [/QUOTE

So maybe he is not as big a dummy as I want to try to blame him for beng a screw up since he is so bad at TRT and closed minded to new TRT treatment . . . .That pisses me off at him

So now to go on to turbo charged TRT and I mean main line Tren, Anadrol, EQ, Test 500, Deca 200 400 mg's of each every 3.5 days for a 12 mth cycle oh and x's after 6 mths and xxedraxxenx' diet . . . . . lol

[MuscleInk]

Well keep in mind the examples I offered before of the two gentlemen. one had a very high PSA ad NO cancer. The other had a normal PSA, yet tested positive for prostate cancer. A

PSA above 4 is not a guarantee of anything. It's not unheard of for men to have elevated PSAs and have no evidence of disease. When I run masteron my PSA has reached 9.6 in the past. Adding 10mg of Cialis daily to my cycle regimen always brings my PSA back down to normal levels.

Remember, the prostate has a high number of androgenic receptors and testosterone as DHT will readily bind to these receptors causing your PSA to increase. High levels of testosterone, complex cycles of combined esters, or prolonged use of anabolics will cause an increase in PSA but the amount of increase varies for everyone. I could go into greater detail as to why this happens but it is probably too much technical detail for some people and would likely bore the heck out of most members. LOL.

An elevated PSA should be examined further but one should not assume high PSAs are due to prostate cancer.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

So if during my TRT I ran Masteron to cut and did so for 3 mths would this be a good reason for elevated PSA and more than likly as a guess not you stating as a fact but the Masteron probably caused the higher PSA and therefore not as probable to have cancer but due to the Masteron ?

And should I tell the Dr. this ?

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

so if during my TRT I ran Masteron to cut and did so for 3 mths would this be a good reason for elevated PSA and more than likly as a guess not you stating as a fact but the Masteron probably caused the higher PSA and therefore not as probable to have cancer but due to the Masteron ? From whatMI said Masteron did to his PSA ?

And should I tell the Dr. This ?

Should I tell Dr.

[lovbyts]

Should I tell Dr.

NO, just see if it goes back down to normal. Mine was up when I was on Mast/Tren but once I was finished it went back to normal after a while.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

NO, just see if it goes back down to normal. Mine was up when I was on Mast/Tren but once I was finished it went back to normal after a while.

THANKS, YOU MEN MAY NOT BELIEVE ME BUT LET A Dr. TELL YOU YOU THAT YOU TESTED POSITIVE FOR CANCER AND YOUR SPIT WILL GO TO WATER IN A HALF A HEART BEAT THANK YOU GENTS FOR BEING TEMPERED WITH ME

I guess my Dr. does not have the most suttel bed side mannor , not the most considerate when informing a pacient of the results of a test that sounds so serious 2 weeks before Christmas and after just getting my TRT close to balanced after 13 mths but I did add some nor 19 compounds in there and I was not knowledgable as to what all they effected in my Endo ; I was just reading what they did to the muscles and if you use a compound you / I should know evertthing it effects and just like this PSA test 2 & really counting the Testosterone Cypionate all had an effect on my PSA reading and I was checking the price on burial plots and more than likely if I had not been a DA and had gained more knowledge I would not have Freaked so bad ? I did not check the price of burial plots and I am still going to the specialist but the way I accept what the Dr. tells me will now at least make me say whoa to pins and pricks and say lets wait 3 mths or even 6 mths and recheck it and see if it has come down ? Also maybe I will sleep tonight with this new found info that fits the bill foor the compounds that where injected into my body PS: I sure do like Tren and Masteron ! But 10 mths on just TRT and a littleDeca will be the healthy yhing to do and a scare ;like this will make a 54 year old man respect te wellness of a TRT dose and the appericiate a cycle 1 time a year ? I may even try a little clomid and Provirion to tak the place of Adex to inhibit estrogen Shoot I JUST HAD MY LIST IN MY BLACK BOOK (iPhone) TO WHERE IT COVERED EVERY NIGHT OF THE WEEK AND A DIFFERENT TYPE OF FEMALE FOR A DIFFERENT EVENT AND WHO I SPENT THE NIGHT WITH AND WHO I JUST SLEPT WITH AND WENT HOME I WAS REALLY WORRIED ABOUT MY WOOD ISSUES IF THEY STARTED MESSING WITH MY PROSTATE ! OOOPPPS SORRY FOR THE ALL CAPS ?


I been doing 2 tics of each EOD alternating my own proticall Tren a while and Mast a while and then 2 weeks ago back to just Test and Deca and can't find HCG and need it bad ordered from (BAD COMPANY DO NOT DEAL WITH ) Roc Bio and tested negative I emailed them and told them I was going to do a Pod Cast and put on YOUTUBE , FACEBOOK , and all the body building forums + take all my emails to the US Customs and they Western Unioned all my money back to me but it was to good to be true 10 5000 iu's for $130.00 I just need some bad ? People do not relize how impportant HCG is they just blow it off like no big deal but the quality of life and the Positive attituide is like night and day !

OH THIS GOT MY ATTENTION I AM GOING TO SCHEDULE A COLONASTOMIE ASAP !

So I will wait and see what the specialist says and if he wants to do more than give me a pill & shrink my Prostate I am going to another !

[lovbyts]

THANKS, YOU MEN MAY NOT BELIEVE ME BUT LET A Dr. TELL YOU YOU THAT YOU TESTED PSITIVE FOR CANCER AND YOUR SPIT WILL GO TO WATER IN A HALF A HEART BEAT THANK YOU GENTS FOR BEING TEMPERED WITH ME

I been doing 2 tics of each EOD alternating my own proticall Tren a while and Mast a while and then 2 weeks ago back to just Test and Deca and can't find HCG and need it bad ordered from (BAD COMPANY DO NOT DEAL WITH ) Roc Bio and tested negative I emailed them and told them I was going to do a Pod Cast and put on YOUTUBE , FACEBOOK , and all the body building forums + take all my emails to the US Customs and they Western Unioned all my money back to me but it was to good to be true 10 5000 iu's for $130.00 I just need some bad ? People do not relize how impportant HCG is they just blow it off like no big deal but the quality of life and the Positive attituide is like night and day !

OH THIS GOT MY ATTENTION I AM GOING TO SCHEDULE A COLONASTOMIE ASAP !

So I will wait and see what the specialist says and if he wants to do more than give me a pill & shrink my Prostate I am going to another !

I hear you but I'm just the opposite. I have had them be worried about my PSA and had a endoscopy. I never got worried. They also fraked out over my liver function once and I had a full liver scan done via ultrasound, full blood workup and more. Not a big deal. To me it was just a way to rule out any issues in the future. I had the full heart tread mill ultra sound done due to one EKG they were not sure how it looked. I never got worried.

I think I have just seen/been through to much to let little things like that bother me until I know for sure there is something wrong and then I will just deal with it.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I hear you but I'm just the opposite. I have had them be worried about my PSA and had a endoscopy. I never got worried. They also fraked out over my liver function once and I had a full liver scan done via ultrasound, full blood workup and more. Not a big deal. To me it was just a way to rule out any issues in the future. I had the full heart tread mill ultra sound done due to one EKG they were not sure how it looked. I never got worried.

I think I have just seen/been through to much to let little things like that bother me until I know for sure there is something wrong and then I will just deal with it.

Great attituide ! I should be there by now as many times as I have cheated death but that word Cancer just got my goat ! I have had 5 total in a life time blood clots hit my lungs and that is scary to some people but to me it is part of my life and due to the blood clots they have had to cut 3 inches deep into my leg to drain an abcess and the stay in the hospital 2 week while it drains and heals from the inside out to make sure it doesn't close up on the outside with raw skin on the inside ! Ih my DA had full blown Gyno at 28 and not bitch tits I had the glands cut out and pain again like no juman should have to endure ! I had all those test ran 2 different times when they were trying to find a clot and make sure it did not make it to my heart I had some kind of necular x-ray and that was the only way the found the clot ! Now that was no walk in the park for me . The Trauma from being ran over by the truck was painful broke all my ribs and punctured my lung plus a lot of other broken bone and split liver and bruised spline but told I would never walk again and I am semi normal now ! That word Cancer really gets my attention with me or someone that is a friend because it is so unpredictable !

That was just my body due to the truck accident, back in the real world I lost a business that made me over $250K a year .+ My wife left me and would not let me see my kids ? Yes I have thought about giving up several times but all I had to do was look at my kids and see the treatment they were getting and the love they were not getting and I would keep on keeping on and the strangest thing of all , probably the only reason I am alive today is the Dr I have now that knows not a thing about treating TRT found my Test reading of 78 and said my Testosterone was at a medical danger level and then he . . . lol . .. .put me on 200mg EOW and no AI ad no HCG but through this forum I begged him out of an AI when my E2 was 72 or higher for over 6 mths and he scripted 1 mg daily and the Pharmicist called me over to the side and asked me if I knew that was to much to take . . . lol he said that is the dose to totatlly block estrogen for women with cancer and I told him I already had a pill cutter and he laughed and said good ? And the world keeps on turning

[Honkey_Kong]

Well keep in mind the examples I offered before of the two gentlemen. one had a very high PSA ad NO cancer. The other had a normal PSA, yet tested positive for prostate cancer. A

PSA above 4 is not a guarantee of anything. It's not unheard of for men to have elevated PSAs and have no evidence of disease. When I run masteron my PSA has reached 9.6 in the past. Adding 10mg of Cialis daily to my cycle regimen always brings my PSA back down to normal levels.

Remember, the prostate has a high number of androgenic receptors and testosterone as DHT will readily bind to these receptors causing your PSA to increase. High levels of testosterone, complex cycles of combined esters, or prolonged use of anabolics will cause an increase in PSA but the amount of increase varies for everyone. I could go into greater detail as to why this happens but it is probably too much technical detail for some people and would likely bore the heck out of most members. LOL.

An elevated PSA should be examined further but one should not assume high PSAs are due to prostate cancer.

When somebody tests with an elevated PSA, do you prescribe antibiotics immediately just to determine that it's not prostatitis? You know in the interim while they're waiting to get a biopsy and the CT scan? Or do you typically do more tests before any sort of treatment?

[AD]

When somebody tests with an elevated PSA, do you prescribe antibiotics immediately just to determine that it's not prostatitis? You know in the interim while they're waiting to get a biopsy and the CT scan? Or do you typically do more tests before any sort of treatment?

i think within our community (chronic roid users), the first thing to do is to stop using and repeat the PSA one or 2 months later. i believe psa can easily double when on a cycle. in the same way, for someone taking prostate meds like finasteride or duasteride, psa can be abnormally low, giving people a false negative result.

if the psa still comes back abnormal after stopping all meds, then you can proceed with further investigations. usually an ultrasound.

antibiotics probably should be started if there is pain together with the raised psa. otherwise, there may not be a rush to start treatment until all results are back.

PSA, like any other tumor markers, has very limited use in the diagnosis of cancer. when elevated, it usually only means that more investigations are needed. but for someone with prostate cancer diagnosed on biopsy, a raised psa can be used in the follow up to see the effectiveness of treatment and to monitor for a relapse.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

You used words like "I beleive" "should be" ?

Not beind condesending towards you but are these your opinions or facts ?

My Dr. told me to continue my TRT ? Granted he is not the sharpest tool in the shed ? So please respond ?

[AD]

You used words like "I beleive" "should be" ?

Not beind condesending towards you but are these your opinions or facts ?

My Dr. told me to continue my TRT ? Granted he is not the sharpest tool in the shed ? So please respond ?

My opinion is as good as fact.

If you stop trt and re-check your psa and it comes back normal, then you know you don't have cancer.

But if you dr is already arranging an ultrasound for you, then go for it, and you don't have to go through stopping trt and the low T symptoms.

[lovbyts]

Well who knows what else they may find when they do the ultrasound? A lot of time they end of finding things they were not even looking for such as tumors, blocked arteries or other things just as bad....






















Just messing with you BuzzardMarinePumper I know you like to worry so I though I would give you something else to think about.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Well who knows what else they may find when they do the ultrasound? A lot of time they end of finding things they were not even looking for such as tumors, blocked arteries or other things just as bad....

























Just messing with you BuzzardMarinePumper I know you like to worry so I though I would give you something else to think about.

lol ? Now that is a cheerful thought Thanks

I already have to deal with blocked arteries

[marcus300]

Ive just been though all this shit, I was worried to fuking hell I had cancer but after my blood test, psa and prostate, testicle and penis exam I was fine but I was worried and knocked me on my knees. luckily it was just an underlying UTI what needs 3 months worth of medication to fuk it off.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Ive just been though all this shit, I was worried to fuking hell I had cancer but after my blood test, psa and prostate, testicle and penis exam I was fine but I was worried and knocked me on my knees. luckily it was just an underlying UTI what needs 3 months worth of medication to fuk it off.

That is what I'm hoping for ? But hope to avoid all the fun test

I fell mine is frorm 90 days of Tren & Masteron ? In low doses but still took almost 50 mg of each over a 90 day period ?