PT-141 help

[SixHouse]

I have a 10mg bottle of PT-141 and a 30mL bottle of bacstat water. I understand I have to reconstitute the PT-141 with 1mL (1 cc) of the water. My confusion comes from how much to inject.

It's not enough just to say "use an insulin syringe and draw up to the 10 unit mark" because 10 units is a different amount based on the size of the insulin syringe you have (this REALLY confuses me).

For example I have the following 2 insulin syringe/needle combinations:

1) 1mL volume, 31 gauge, 8mm needle length.
2) 3/10mL volume, 30 gauge, 12.7mm needle length.

The 10 unit mark on the first syringe is NOT the same amount as the 10 unit mark on the second syringe. How and why is this?!? And how can anyone safely inject anything using these things?

I think I need to use needle #2 because it's a half inch needle (12.7mm). I'm 6'1" about 200# so the tiny needle on syringe #1 is too short I think. Am I wrong? Either way, which syringe SHOULD I use and what unit mark should I fill to?

[RoadToHuge]

your insulin syringe is 1 ml generally

Since you added one ml to your 141 each tick is .1 ml

so .1 will be 1mg of pt141

Its just math bro.

If you add 2ml to your pt 141, then each tick on the insulin syringe is .5 of pt141.. get it?

[MuscleInk]

your insulin syringe is 1 ml generally

Since you added one ml to your 141 each tick is .1 ml

so .1 will be 1mg of pt141

Its just math bro.

If you add 2ml to your pt 141, then each tick on the insulin syringe is .5 of pt141.. get it?

Some people over think things and make it more complicated than it needs to be.

If I recall, there is 20mg of lyophilized product.

So.....if you add 1ml, then there's 20mg for each 1ml. Thus, 1/10 of a ml (.10) would be 20 x .1 = 2mg of the peptide in .1ml of the syringe.

If you reconstitute with more than 1ml, adjust as RTH said above.

Basic math.

[SixHouse]

2 replies and neither of you actually read the question it seems.

I'm not asking how to do math. I'm asking how and why the insulin syringes hold different volumes of liquid when I draw to the same unit mark on each. Again... if I draw to the 20 unit mark on syringe #1 and then draw to the 20 unit mark on syringe #2, they are NOT the same amount. That being the case there is no way to tell how many mg of the peptide I'm getting.

So my questions are, can anyone explain this? Which syringe should I be using? And what unit mark should I be drawing to?

[SteveUK]

2 replies and neither of you actually read the question it seems.

I'm not asking how to do math. I'm asking how and why the insulin syringes hold different volumes of liquid when I draw to the same unit mark on each. Again... if I draw to the 20 unit mark on syringe #1 and then draw to the 20 unit mark on syringe #2, they are NOT the same amount. That being the case there is no way to tell how many mg of the peptide I'm getting.

So my questions are, can anyone explain this? Which syringe should I be using? And what unit mark should I be drawing to?

If you draw with both insulin syringes to the same IU as marked on the syringe it will be the same amount you inject with both, it is a universal measurement. You can use either of them.

[SixHouse]

If you draw with both insulin syringes to the same IU as marked on the syringe it will be the same amount you inject with both, it is a universal measurement. You can use either of them.

Well thanks, but that's just incorrect. I can type it for the 3rd time if that would help(?)

Step 1) Draw 20 units of water into syringe #1
Step 2) Squirt water from syringe #1 into syringe #2

What do you think will happen? Logically, syringe #2 should now be filled with water up to the 20 unit mark but it is NOT. THAT is the problem here. Somehow the markings on these syringes are not the same.

[SteveUK]

Well thanks, but that's just incorrect. I can type it for the 3rd time if that would help(?)

Step 1) Draw 20 units of water into syringe #1
Step 2) Squirt water from syringe #1 into syringe #2

What do you think will happen? Logically, syringe #2 should now be filled with water up to the 20 unit mark but it is NOT. THAT is the problem here. Somehow the markings on these syringes are not the same.

The needle is longer on one of them the syringe will take it into account when you draw it up.

[Back In Black]

I, not really sure the question here but I will try and answer it.

You have a 1ml syringe.
You have a 3/10ml syringe

3 into 10 doesn't go so you don't have 1ml which is why it's different. It would need to be 3.33/10ml to give you a more definitive reading. Maybe I got the wrong end of the stick but just use the 1ml syringe it's so much easier.

[SixHouse]

I, not really sure the question here but I will try and answer it.

You have a 1ml syringe.
You have a 3/10ml syringe

3 into 10 doesn't go so you don't have 1ml which is why it's different. It would need to be 3.33/10ml to give you a more definitive reading. Maybe I got the wrong end of the stick but just use the 1ml syringe it's so much easier.

I'd like to use the 1mL syringe but the needle isn't long enough. So I'm going to use the other one. Now for the real question...

Assuming the 20 unit mark is .2 (1/5) of a cc or mL, what is a good dose to start with? I have read everything from .1 and up. Keep in mind that I am using 1mL of bacstat water to reconstitute.

[RoadToHuge]

I'd like to use the 1mL syringe but the needle isn't long enough. So I'm going to use the other one. Now for the real question...

Assuming the 20 unit mark is .2 (1/5) of a cc or mL, what is a good dose to start with? I have read everything from .1 and up. Keep in mind that I am using 1mL of bacstat water to reconstitute.

Why is the 1ml syringe not big enough? The needle is fine, you inject into the fat in your belly..


Not to be mean, but maybe this is not for you. This is all very simple and you are making rocket science out of it...

[marcus300]

Lol Lmfao

[MuscleInk]

SixHouse,

If you can't communicate your question clearly and effectively and simple math is beyond you, perhaps you shouldn't be playing with sharp objects.

We offered help based on our understanding of your question. You came back with a smart ass remark. Figure it out yourself.

[SixHouse]

Why is the 1ml syringe not big enough? The needle is fine, you inject into the fat in your belly..


Not to be mean, but maybe this is not for you. This is all very simple and you are making rocket science out of it...

As I mentioned, needles on insulin syringes come in different sizes. A standard sub-q injection should use a .5 inch needle, got that so far? But the needle on the 1mL syringe is much shorter than that, making it not a good choice for a grown man. Was that over your head?

[SixHouse]

SixHouse,

If you can't communicate your question clearly and effectively and simple math is beyond you, perhaps you shouldn't be playing with sharp objects.

We offered help based on our understanding of your question. You came back with a smart ass remark. Figure it out yourself.

The question was communicated perfectly. The reader comprehension was the problem, clearly. So I dumbed it down and bingo!

[MuscleInk]

The question was communicated perfectly. The reader comprehension was the problem, clearly. So I dumbed it down and bingo!

Really?!? You were the one that admitted he was REALLY confused.

It's not rocket science pal.

[Red Bastard]

A standard sub-q injection should use a .5 inch needle

Really?

For sub Q, I use 1/2, but also 5/16, no probs. But, my girlfriend uses 3/16, for her HGH, with no issues...