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Thread: Supertest, Test P, Tren E, Tren A - IGF-1 lr3, CJC1295, GHRP-2 & Insulin Cycle

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    Supertest, Test P, Tren E, Tren A - IGF-1 lr3, CJC1295, GHRP-2 & Insulin Cycle

    Firstly I'd just like to make it aware that I am from Australia, and I'm sick of seeing other Australians post things like "it's impossible to get juice through our customs" , "peptides are a myth in Australia" bla bla bla. I'm telling you now everything I take is not sourced locally. So unless you want a 2nd or 3rd job to pay for your lifestyle choice > start looking harder. Doesn't take a genius to figure it out.
    If your buying locally, your getting ripped off, what you pay for 1 vial I can buy my whole AAS cycle. Prices here in Aus locally are ridiculous and it annoys me to see dealers taking advantage of the less knowledgeable.

    Anyway getting on with it...

    I haven't seen a lot of posts about the following peps in conjunction with AAS cycle, and I can't wait any longer I've been patiently waiting long enough for someone to post something similar so I could better my approach but it looks like it's going to be me. So here's the peps and when I'll be pinning.

    They are:

    GHRP-2 > 150mcg AM, Pre, Bed.
    CJC1295 > 150mcg AM, Pre, Bed.
    IGF-1 LR3 > 100mcg Post w/o
    Insulin > 10IU Pre w/o

    The IGF I'm using is MC's. Anyone who has used MC's can understand why I'm really excited to get this cycle rolling.

    BTW insulin for pre workout gives amazing pumps. People always ask me why I use it, it's simple. It's the most anabolic hormone you can get, you'd be crazy not to use it while on a bulk.

    Now, I had to make a decision... I've heard short burst cycles of peptides are more affective in comparison to an average dose on a standard length cycle. But, I believe experimenting with your own body is the best way to go about it so I'm just going to start with an average dose for the length of my AAS cycle and continue throughout my PCT.

    But the next time I run a pep cycle like this it will be burst cycle and bridging throughout an AAS cycle, maybe even something like burst cycle for AAS, once the burst is over and the bridging begins ill burst cycle into peps, so let's say I start with AAS burst first > as my AAS drops my peps will burst, and when my peps drop my AAS will burst... so on until the desired length is complete. Or I could burst both at the same time, who knows. Many more years of experimenting ahead....

    Cycle history:

    1st - Test E, Tren E (8weeks)
    2nd - Test E, Tren E, Dbol (12wk)
    3rd - Test P, Tren A, Masteron, Clen & T3 (12wk) (bridging)
    4th - Supertest, Tren E (burst cycle)
    5th - Test E, Dbol, Deca, Stan
    6th - Test E low dose 3months.
    (I think that's all of them, might of missed a couple)

    Now for my 7th AAS cycle (the one I'll be sharing my experiences about) is going to be:

    Supertest 450,
    Test P,
    Tren E 200,
    Tren A 100.

    Dose:
    Supertest 450
    1/2ml EOD - 0>6 weeks,
    1ml EOD - 6>8 weeks.

    Tren 200
    1ml EOD - 0>6 weeks,
    1 1/2ml EOD - 6>8 weeks.

    Once I hit the 8 week mark. I'm going to bridge to the mid section of my cycle, the transition point from bulking to cutting. I'm going to begin De-load phase. I'm going to de-load to allow my body to catch up on gains and recovery. Once that 2 weeks is up I'm going into re-load phase.

    Supertest 450
    1ml EOD - 10>14 weeks.

    Tren E 200
    1ml EOD - 10>14 weeks.

    So now half way through a normal re-load length, I get the ball rolling for my cut cycle, because of the long esters from the bulking phase, I will be running a really low dose of Test P (or maybe nothing) for 2 weeks so the majority of those long esters are out, take note this re-load duration is 4 weeks, your probably thinking this re-load is to short! But this is another theory I was reading about that I'm putting to the test.

    Test P 100
    1 ml ED - 16>20 weeks,
    1 1/2ml ED - 20>24weeks.

    Tren A 100
    1ml ED - 16>20 weeks,
    1 1/2ml ED - 20>24 weeks.
    (I don't mind jabbing everyday, it excites me)

    So it looks like this:
    8 week Bulk re-load,
    2 week de-load,
    4 week bulk re-load,
    2 week de-load,
    8 week re-load cut.

    This dosing decision is based on the theory of; AAS cycles are not optimal with the same dosage throughout the cycle, an increase is a must.

    Why Supertest? To be honest everyone has there own opinion and most experienced users should have a rough idea of what substance their body reacts to better. For me as a test is definitely by a long shot Supertest, containing a whopping 450/ml. Most users I come across have never experienced Supertest, I'm still unsure of why its uncommon. I passed the information on to acquire Supertest to some very experienced bodybuilders, they tried it and rated it quite highly.

    Why Tren? I shouldn't need to explain..... Just a heads up, I'm well aware that Tren E is a long ester, and it will be backed off a few weeks prior to me starting Tren A. Why am I making the switch? Because Tren A rips me up, I don't believe there's a better cutting combination than:

    Tren A, Test P, Clen, T3 and Peptides

    Unless your rich and can afford bulk amounts of HGH. In that case I envy you, But I still have a theory that the peps I'm running in this cycle could have roughly the same affects as actual HGH but without the risk of screwing up your natural HGH production, plus there's no chance I'm paying around $1,000 for 100IU of HGH, that's just retarded....

    Supplements:

    Gold Standard Whey, Creatine Ethyl Ester, Vasotropin, Super Amino, Glycofuse, C4, Multi V, Vitamin C and Fish oil

    Training:

    Before getting into this cycle I've backed my training off and done lots of resting and eating to give my body that shock ('blast') once I start training full throttle. This resting period from gym is known as a 'prime', everybody should take a couple solid weeks off away from gym 1 or 2 times a year. I just want to give a heads up on my training. Put it this way I don't see many guys at my gym training the way I do, it's taken me about 3 years to come up with a specific training program for myself as to what my body has a better muscle building response to.

    I have 2 phases of training. A heavy phase with low range volume, and a light phase with high volume for that intense pump we all crave. There's much more to it than just doing the same amount of weight, reps and volume. You need to switch it up and allow your new strength gains to go heavier while increasing reps and volume. It works for me but I'm not about to go into that as that is a whole other read.

    In total I've been training for about 4 years for bodybuilding that is, before that was a few years of endurance, HIIT and strength gains... Had minimal interest in size gains because I was heading to the army so I was just preparing my body to keep up with the workload the army was going to throw at me. The first 3 years (of bodybuilding) have no comparison to my 4th year of training. I've made more gains in my 4th year than what I did over the first 3 years. Knowledge is power.

    Nutrition:

    Right, coming Into this Cycle I've upped my carbs and fats. I pretty much live on a chicken and brown rice diet (coz I'm a boring f***)
    So what will I be consuming through the first phase of this cycle? As your aware it's a bulk up cut down cycle, so 2 phases, so bare with me. Take note I've already been doing a natural bulk for 5 weeks already, making good gains. (yep, is possible natural as well) Clean bulk which has added a nifty 3.5kg to the scales, although having said that I'm no longer 8% where I was before I started the bulk.

    Bulk/ Daily intake:
    Fats: 90-120g
    Protein: 300-400g
    Carbs: 800g+

    I'll most likely over indulge and some days go way over what I have put down here, while I'm bulking the last thing I am is strict on my diet, if I'm hungery I'll eat...... And pretty much eat whatever I want. (Ok, to a certain extent.. I'm not about to go and live on Tripple cheeseburgers for 2 months)

    Cut/ Daily intake:
    Well, basically half of what the bulk is, but cutting out majority of the fats.

    Take note I bulk quite easily.
    My Carbs will vary because I'll be taking IGF and insulin, I've been to the hypo stage a few times, one time was really bad .. I ended up on the kitchen floor in cold sweat trembling, jamming jelly beans into my mouth, so if you are considering insulin make sure you have the correct amount of carbs ready to go and have your starting dose very small (1-2IU) also doesn't hurt to have some emergency candy for the times you can feel it creeping up on you. Without those Jelly beans I would of been f***** . All because I wasn't experienced with insulin and didn't do my own re-search. Don't listen to people at the gym, always do your own re-search.

    I've run this bulking nutrition plan before on a cycle and it worked well for me, I have no issues with burning off excess fat afterwords, which means I can over indulge a little >

    This is how the cycle is looking so far...

    Supertest 450 (bulk)
    Test P (cut)
    Tren E 200 (bulk)
    Tren A (cut)

    (Peps run throughout cycle and PCT)
    GHRP-2
    CJC1295
    IGF-1 LR3
    Insulin Humalin R

    Clen (cut)
    T3 (cut)

    Aromasin
    Clomid / HCG

    The AI I've selected to use works best for me. I'm not sure weather I'll be using Clomid or HCG. Fingers crossed on HCG but will settle for Clomid if I have too.

    This easily would have cost something like $3,000+ if locally sourced.

    Although I will finish my AAS cycle for cutting, I will still continue peps, T3 and clen. I'll stop T3 after 6 weeks but continue clen. Its quite a lengthy AAS and peptide cycle but It's not unheard of to find out people are doing over 6month long cycles. I get regular blood work done and checked. As long as there's no alarms ringing I'll be doing the whole 24 weeks.

    I've written up this post before I've actually started the cycle, what I have started though so far is IGF LR3, and let's just say I'm very impressed. It's MC's IGF so you know it's legit and not bogus. Probably the best IGF available. (EVEN TO AUSTRALIANS)

    I just want to give a quick review about MC's IGF-1 Lr3:

    I started it before my cycle because I'm still waiting on some things to arrive, which is good because I've heard good things about MC's IGF so I wanted to run some alone. This is my first pep cycle and the idea of growth on the site of injection is very exciting. #trapzilla

    So it's been about 5 days of use so far, having a rest day today and I'm really happy with it. Feeling a lot more alert, more energy in the gym, better pumps, better focus, appetite increase, feeling happier in general and strength gain (definitely noticeable). Even noticed some size added, my gym partner and mrs also said the same thing, so I'm not trippin ! Only 5 days of use though? Can it be that good...
    Downfall I've noticed about this peptide is my stubbornness to fall asleep is worsening, I take quite awhile to fall asleep without running anything, so I'm a little worried as to how I'm going to manage my sleep once I start tren aswell... Hoping the CJC might be able to give me a hand as I don't like taking sleeping medication. (Worse comes to worse could always get some kronic, which I had to do last time I ran tren, 2 puffs lights out lol)

    Day 7 on MC's IGF-1 LR3.
    Today I trained shoulders, and I was getting the pumps I would get from an AAS cycle! The IGF definitely without a doubt played a big factor but I also think the extreme pumps were also due to 'Vasotropin'. Couldn't be happier. IGF is something that will ALWAYS be in my arsenal from now on, it's abit on the expensive side compared to other peptides but it's well worth the money. I'm not trying to "sell" this product to anyone reading this, I'm just saying its worth giving it a shot, especially if your skeptical about peptides.

    -------ANYWAY
    I will be documenting everything I experience throughout this cycle, pros and cons. Fortnightly updates, mid and post cycle photos etc.

    Currently my build before this cycle.
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    Last edited by Trapz89; 11-08-2013 at 07:50 PM.

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    Everything looks good man, well thought out and it's an insane cycle! Are you using Gen pharma products by chance?

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    Welcome buddy!

    Looking beasty!

    Edit the price talk, its agains the rules.

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    Should be a funnnnnnn cycle bro!

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    Subscribed man... Rock on!!!

    It's good to see some experience in the house and laying it out for the new guys to learn from. The mechanics of deloading and recovery are so important even when your on AAS. Some people think just because your on AAS it's okay to go balls to the wall everyday.

    Good luck on your journey!

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    In for super growth

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    Thanks bro. No I've never used Gen pharma. A few of my mates who I train with do though. Seems to be good quality.

    I'm 1 week in and feeling great, I'm already at the stage where everything is hardening and getting leaner. Diet hasn't changed nor has training.

    Downfall so far is my appetite has gone out the window. Thinking about incorporating some GHRP-6 to allow me to eat like a beast comfortably. I'd rather over eat than eat to less.

    In about a month or so I'll put up some pics along with all measurements and strength gained.

    Cheers,
    Trapz
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    Excited to see what this brings. Should be fun to watch.

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    i'm in..

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    Yo brother!

    It's been about 4 weeks now. How are you doing on your blast?

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    4 weeks and no update?...........

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    I like the rage at the start of his post but you cant blame others (myself included) for cashing in on others stupidity.

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    My bad been busy as F**k

    No substantial changes as yet, I'm expecting this next month is where I'm going to see most of my new gains, I definitely havnt hit that peak stage yet, but getting close!!!! as expected my strength is now peaking and I'm loving it, feeling really full and getting some pretty beastly pumps. Veins are popping out like crazy... Even post sex my arms look like a map directory. I had a tiny bit of a set back, my diet went to shit because of my appetite being a whore, and I had surgery on my neck which left me 10 stichers. Doctor said no weight training.... I just laughed at him.... I continued to train but obviously couldn't lift at max potential for about a week, here's a quick pic for now so you all know where I'm sitting at. I'd rather wait a month or so post cycle to put up all my gains because I don't rekon there's much point measuring on cycle because we all know what happens post cycle

    I'll update again soon with some pumped up selfies

    Cheers
    Trapz

    (These photos are not pumped selfies. Just jumped out of bed, Thought I'd give you an idea of how I look un-pumped and un-flex'd)

    (Ps I noticed my legs look tiny in this pic I swear they look much bigger in person lol ill do some leg snaps soon)

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    Oh might just add I've put on 4kg in 4 weeks.. Not bad considering I'm eating pretty clean, obviously some water but hey, still pretty happy with that.

    Give me another month or so right before I de load, I'll do some stats then.

    Cheers,
    Trapz

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    Apologies for the 3rd post in a row....

    But another thing I'd like to add is something new I'm trying with my nutrition. (The health freaks are going to love this) every second day I'm consuming a Big Mac and fries. I'm just starting this as of TODAY.
    I've always wanted to commit to it, so fk it why not do it when growth is about to peak. If CT Fletcher is saying it's the best post workout meal for growth then shit, I can't ignore that. Definitely wouldn't try this while not on cycle, thank you Tren for your outstanding fat burning properties.

    That is all
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    Trapz,

    Sounds good and thanks for updating. The photos are good.

    I think the hype on eating clean during a bulk is overkill by some peoples standards. I think during a bulk you have to eat clean and dirty. I think the pizza and hamburgers would definitely benefit in the post workout meals.

    I have a quick question:

    If I read your outline correctly above.... You are going to Load a 8 week bulk and then go into a 2 week deload, bridging over to start the next part of your regimen.

    During this 2 week deload can you describe what percentages you will lower your weight volumn down to? Also, are you going to use AAS to bridge during those 2 weeks with the peptides.

    I'm just curious about the details of the 2 week deload your going to incorporate and look forward to hearing how they work out for you. Your 2 week deload during the middle of the cycle is interesting. I usually deload for 4 - 6 weeks after completion of a heavy cycle and finishing the strength training event. I drop the weights down to 50-60%.

    I may experiment with a 2 week deload during my next bulk and strength phase by splitting the phase into 2; a mini deload in the middle and then power up more on the dosages and weight during the 2nd phase.
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    Hey bro,

    Yea I definitely agree that some burgers and pizza is essential if you want to make the most of your bulk, save the clean eating for your cut.

    To answer your question about my de-load phase.
    My training volume will sit around the 3 range, which is extremely low volume for me as I love supersetting, dropsetting quite high volume, usually around the 6 sets mark. My weight will also be lowered around about 40% of my max lifts for 10 reps. The whole point of a de-load is to allow for recovery and new gains to catch up, and also is great for reducing the chances of injury. So this 2 weeks will definitely be taken easy, and lots of eating!!!!

    No AAS will be taken on the de-load, not even peptides or supplements, only some whey post workout but that's it. I'll be sourcing all my protein naturally on the de load.

    And your experiment theory sounds good bro. Give it a go see how you react.

    Hope that answers your Q.
    Cheers,
    Trapz
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    Beastly cycle bro! I am gonna try some peptides. I have been sold on them after all the research. I will start with igf1lr3 like you did. Hope the gains are piling in! You are looking beastly man!!

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    Cheers brotha,

    Definitely hit IGF, order it from MC bro. It's probably the best peptide IMO.
    You should stack it with some insulin, I've lowered my slin down from 10IU to 5IU. Thanks to the IGF I don't need to take as much and still getting the same big pumps I was getting when taking 10IU.

    Coming into the growth month now so I'm eating a lot. Feeling really strong, squats have increased by 50kg, bench 40kg (for 10reps) that's whe I've noticed lots of strength increase. Everywhere else is getting stronger but nothing jaw dropping.

    pics to come in a few weeks,
    Cheers,
    Trapz

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    Dude thanks for that MC hookup. That stuff is incredible! Got it three days after ordering! Those guys are legit! I applied to my biceps before my workout. Oh shit what a pump! My bicep starting looking freakish with a second head growing on it. haha. The energy was unreal too! I found my new favorite supplement brotha!

    Hope that cycle is treating you well!

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    what is MC please?

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    Feeling goooooood

    Not bad considering I've just come back to train, I had 2 weeks off from lifting anything because I had Gastro!! Bye bye 3kg.... Couldn't eat for about 4 days... So this kind of really messed with my gains but I'm feeling really good now. Heres a photo from yesterday after a light chest session.

    Cheers,
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    Oh man I was looking forward to see your end results, why did you stop updating?

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    Sorry,

    Here's the latest pic. I had so many set backs with this cycle, one problem after another. Pretty pissed off but did make some decent gains.
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