Athlete Needs help with Steriod Stack PLEASE!!!

[Dreamchaserr]

Hey guys im 20 years old 5'8, 185lbs, 9percent BF, max bench 295LB, deads 405 x 10, sqaut 400 for 8, just to give you a idea. I am a athlete with one shot to make the ultimate steriod stack for my off season so I can only do this once under my circumstances. Please help have been training for 5 years 2 years very consitent my diet is on point and so is my training. Also my goals are to get to 210 Cut or 205 cut so I want to be as big as possible so I can cut to that weight. I need help in regards to the best gear to run and It has to be out of my system before the season. I wanted to run HGH and i Still might let me know thanks.

Here is what i was going to run

Test 400 for 3 months
Tren A 2 cycles
D Bol 2 cycles


PCT

1 Aromasin and 1 HCG

Having Said that I understand that is for bulking i can do those during my off season which is 9 months long. I have a naturally fast metabolism and have no problem droping weight. When i am cutting for off season i want to run a cutting steriod tips on that would be great thanks.. First time doing this and i understand the risks i have a doctor and I just need advice and flaws in my plan thank you very much guys i appreciate it so much.

[Euroholic]

No your doing it all wrong. Hcg and ai is for on cycle not pct. research more and your too young mate you may damage your hpta

[Euroholic]

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html

Read this

[Xaxist]

I think you are too young but if you are bound and determined, read the stickies on cycles and PCT.

[Euroholic]

I think you are too young but if you are bound and determined, read the stickies on cycles and PCT.

I don't think he is mature and determined at all. He wants to run 2 cycles of tren and dbol he is using hcg and ai as a pct. and he is thinking of hgh all with in 9 months. He has not even said what sport he is training for. Hopefully he does not go ahead with this.

[spiralkut]

I dont understand why you mention you're an athlete then mention tren.
If you're an athlete I can confirm that doing tren will destroy any fitness you have.

[Dreamchaserr]

I dont understand why you mention you're an athlete then mention tren.
If you're an athlete I can confirm that doing tren will destroy any fitness you have.

Ok so stay away from Tren is that what your telling me, what do you recommend? And also thanks for the comments guys but I have been training for 5 years now and i know how to eat 185 9 percent bodyfat im doing ok but I need to be a monster and I play football here im sure you all know you need to have those pounds on you. Thanks again guys.

[Dreamchaserr]

Lived on my own since I was 18 work three jobs pay for my own school and manage to play football and keep my head above water. I appreciate your input but mature and determined is in my category. Having said that what do you think is wrong with that? Also i heard just using HGH and scratch the rest was the safest way to go..

[Capebuffalo]

Real growth is hard to find and expensive and must be run for long periods. Just FYI.

Unless you are so good you may go pro I wouldn't risk my health at 20 for a few good years on the field.


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[qscgugcsq]

your young you may damage yourself.

That being said, you clearly lack of knowledge to be able to do it(relatively) safely.

you are young, their is a risk that you cant avoid howevet the rest may be avoided.

you if you truly plan hcg and aromasin like PCT, your cycle will yield great problem and you will finish smaller than you are...

read the stickies and learn... if you really want to do this that young you must consider the possibility that your never recover, that youll need TRT for the rest of your life.
that you will stunt your growth. all that if you still done everything perfectly...

and right now, there is nothing right in the cycle planned...

you are not ready at all...

but, you have all he info you need on the stickies.

good luck but you should wait.

[Dreamchaserr]

You guys are really making me think here and question myself, but what would you guys recomend me doing if you say this cycle is not right? You say I may screw up my HTPA but i will be under a doctor. And with the HGH would you guys just suggest that instead of all of this, and I am good potiental for pro is there. If i diet hard and all that im still going to be maybe 195 thats a BIG maybe.

[pitchindude]

You guys are really making me think here and question myself, but what would you guys recomend me doing if you say this cycle is not right? You say I may screw up my HTPA but i will be under a doctor. And with the HGH would you guys just suggest that instead of all of this, and I am good potiental for pro is there. If i diet hard and all that im still going to be maybe 195 thats a BIG maybe.

That's what we want to do, make you rethink the idea. It's not safe or intelligent at your age.

Under doctor supervision? How so? I doubt a doc would suggest you do this and if he/she did then I'd say you need to find a new doc. Dr supervision or not, you'll still be at high risk of HTPA damage.

[Dreamchaserr]

That's what we want to do, make you rethink the idea. It's not safe or intelligent at your age.

Under doctor supervision? How so? I doubt a doc would suggest you do this and if he/she did then I'd say you need to find a new doc. Dr supervision or not, you'll still be at high risk of HTPA damage.

Ok so are you guys saying my whole cycle is wrong and perhaps I could take a much more mild approach to the situation? Because that is a pretty big stack I am starting to see that so is there something I should look into taking that is much less lets call it "intense"? I understand that you guys will say stay natural but im taking supplements already like M1T Mutan Test, nitrix and the essentials. So my point is why dont i take my supplementation to the next level because i am good enough to go to the next level and i could really benifit from a cycle in a good way. Any suggestions.

[spiralkut]

Ok so stay away from Tren is that what your telling me, what do you recommend? And also thanks for the comments guys but I have been training for 5 years now and i know how to eat 185 9 percent bodyfat im doing ok but I need to be a monster and I play football here im sure you all know you need to have those pounds on you. Thanks again guys.

Im guessing by Football u mean American, and from what i can tell their pre-season is close to our Aus football. You mentioned you're an athlete so im guessing you either get paid or are playing in college if that is the case going into the start of a pre-season with 0 fitness would be a bad idea.

[Xaxist]

Ok so are you guys saying my whole cycle is wrong and perhaps I could take a much more mild approach to the situation? Because that is a pretty big stack I am starting to see that so is there something I should look into taking that is much less lets call it "intense"? I understand that you guys will say stay natural but im taking supplements already like M1T Mutan Test, nitrix and the essentials. So my point is why dont i take my supplementation to the next level because i am good enough to go to the next level and i could really benifit from a cycle in a good way. Any suggestions.

If you are going to go ahead despite the advice to wait, you still ABSOLUTELY MUST educate yourself ALOT more about steroids and cycles. It is clear to all of us that you still have alot to learn before you attempt any sort of cycle. Read everything you can get your eyes on (alot of great stuff here on these forums) and, though our advice to wait won't change, posting a reasonable researched cycle plan here will go a long way. We don't want you to hurt yourself, bud.

[Capebuffalo]

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[Dreamchaserr]

Thank you guys i appreciate the help and great advice did a lot of research and its all from this thread thanks again!!

[Gunsablazin]

Wish u the best

[Athlete127]

Thank you guys i appreciate the help and great advice did a lot of research and its all from this thread thanks again!!

Get popped with an NCAA drug test and then never play the game again. I'm a college football player and you have to know exactly what you're doing and the times the steroids are in your system.