trt at 20 years old

[vito93x]

so I posted this in the trt section but nobody answered my question so I figured id try it here, don't move my post mods..

so had my bloodwork done.. total test came out in the high 200's to low 300's

I don't care if you think im too young.. I have completely made up my mind tha I don't want the levels of a 80yr old man anymore

I have already tried a nolva/clomid restart, didn't work



my symptoms include: depression, anxiety, low sex drive


I want to get on TRT asap..

However, I want the doctor to give me as much testosterone as possible, I don't want just enough to be normal..

I want high levels...

I also don't want to be tested for a million different things to figure out why my levels are low, I just want to go on trt ASAP and be done with it.

so I was thinking about doing what this article said........

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how can we manipulate the results in an effort to receive testosterone replacement therapy? One way is to take high doses of the prohormone 19-Norandrostenedione for a period of 8 to 10 weeks. 19-Norandrostenedione, a Nandrolone steroid precursor, in high dosages of 1500mgs per day should cause a large enough drop off in your free and total testosterone levels to qualify you for testosterone replacement. Make sure that during this time you do not take any products that cause a boost in your levels of LH (luteinizing hormone) such as Tribulus Terrestris or Clomid.

Several studies have shown that testosterone levels of patients measured during periods of stress, viral infection, sleep deprivation, starvation, and fasting have been significantly lower than normal. If at all possible, schedule your blood test to coincide with these conditions.

One athlete told Elite Fitness of his hardcore 4 point plan he uses to obtain testosterone replacement therapy. After ten weeks of a 19-Nor cycle, here's what he does.

First, he limits his sleep to no more than 4 hours each night for 3 to 4 days before his blood test.

Then he will fast for the same 3-4 day span eating no food and drinking only water.

The athlete also deprives himself of any sexual release through intercourse or masturbation for these 4 days.

The last and most interesting step to his plan is to take one of his girlfriend’s birth control pills 12 hours before the test. Taking a female birth control pill the day before a blood test should temporarily raise estrogen and/or lower testosterone.




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Now I understand that hypogonadal men do not have completely shut down LH and FSH

if I were too do this my LH and FSH would be shutdown





i want enough test where i can cruise and they have me at a baseline in the 900, but that I also have some extra prescribed test to blast once in a while....






how do i go about doing this mates???? thanks

[austinite]

Welcome.

Please, be respectful to our members, don't want to see threads go crazy like the other forums.

You should get replies soon.

[bullshark99]

Vito, you did get responses, I just don't think you liked them. You could do yourself a tremendous service by listening to what 2sox told you. Best of luck to you.

[kelkel]

You're asking us to help you shut down your HPTA at 20 then manipulate your already low test levels to get a prescription. You need to do what 2Sox said in the other thread. Unless you have a pathology chances are your low levels are correctable. Be patient and seek help. You have no clue what is involved in TRT and you sure as hell don't want to be on it (and all that comes with it) for the next 60 years.

[vito93x]

You're asking us to help you shut down your HPTA at 20 then manipulate your already low test levels to get a prescription. You need to do what 2Sox said in the other thread. Unless you have a pathology chances are your low levels are correctable. Be patient and seek help. You have no clue what is involved in TRT and you sure as hell don't want to be on it (and all that comes with it) for the next 60 years.

he basically told me to just cruise at the 900 level. my condition is low t, iv already had doctors check for other causes. there is no other causes, its jus the way it is.

[vito93x]

You're asking us to help you shut down your HPTA at 20 then manipulate your already low test levels to get a prescription. You need to do what 2Sox said in the other thread. Unless you have a pathology chances are your low levels are correctable. Be patient and seek help. You have no clue what is involved in TRT and you sure as hell don't want to be on it (and all that comes with it) for the next 60 years.

im going ON regardless of what anyone in these forums says to be honest mate, I don't like the level im at 200-300 is for 80 Year Old Men. I already tried the restart myself, guess what it didn't work. I had my GP check for other shit, he couldn't find anything and he said this level was normal, guess what this level is not normal. so im going on. are you gonna help me with my question?

[vito93x]

You're asking us to help you shut down your HPTA at 20 then manipulate your already low test levels to get a prescription. You need to do what 2Sox said in the other thread. Unless you have a pathology chances are your low levels are correctable. Be patient and seek help. You have no clue what is involved in TRT and you sure as hell don't want to be on it (and all that comes with it) for the next 60 years.

I don't mean to be disrespectful this is just a shitty ****ing situation im in and nobody is on my side, the cause can not be determined we've already tested and I was told im normal anyways, all I want is a good baseline of 900 and a little extra test.

[kelkel]

Then you should find another, better, doctor. Not a GP but one who specialized in hormones.
If you're going on regardless then why are you even here asking these questions. My god, manipulating already low hormones doesn't get a doctor to write even more testosterone.

[DAAS]

You aren't going to receive much more test if you're at mid 200's than you would at 0. In fact if you drop to zero they will know something is up. Don't rush the process and don't manipulate it. They are hesitant to put you on TRT because the shit aint no fun.

[vito93x]

because I want to ask about the being shutdown.

[vito93x]

about the LH and FSH being shutdown.

[DAAS]

Did you get all other hormones checked? or just total test?

[vito93x]

i did the female hormone panel from priavtemdlabs

[vito93x]

everything else came in a good range.

[DAAS]

So your results were low 200's but they refuse to put you on any form of HRT?

[vito93x]

high 200's low 300's, all iv seen is my GP about it and asked my friends uncle about it who is a pediatrician, both said those levels were low but normal enough that i don't need to do anything about it.

**** that shit. god made me a man so im gonna be a ****in man.

i understand chip wadowski's network is the best to get hooked up with? these guys know their shi apparently

[Capebuffalo]

Well damn if a pediatrician can't help all is lost.

[MuscleInk]

high 200's low 300's, all iv seen is my GP about it and asked my friends uncle about it who is a pediatrician, both said those levels were low but normal enough that i don't need to do anything about it.

**** that shit. god made me a man so im gonna be a ****in man.

i understand chip wadowski's network is the best to get hooked up with? these guys know their shi apparently

You're not seeing the right doctors. Go see a urologist, a men's anti-aging clinic, or neuroendocrinologist. Stop waisting time with pediatricians and family doctors.

[JohnnyVegas]

I agree with everyone above. Find a good doctor and go on a proper TRT regimen.

Nobody here will recommend that you do "extra" since that causes real health concerns. I doubt there is a single person here that runs at a high level all the time. Running cycles is a different story - obviously a lot of guys here to that. Running constant, high TRT levels doesn't bring the benefits of a cycle but increases your risk of health problems. The benefit to risk ratio just isn't worth it.

[vito93x]

just talked to the trt dudes...
this shit is simple..
they just need a blood requisition test with LH, CBC, CMP, Lipid Profile, Total, Free, LSH, and PSA which i already have... ]

there is no age qualification

your total test needs to be less than 350 to qualify
or
your free test needs to be less than 15 to qualify


both my total test and free test are less than those numbers so i defiantly qualify

you make an initial deposit, if you are not approved you get your initial deposit back


go see the doctor

at the WORST he will give me HCG to try a restart, if that doesn't work straight to test, but most likely it will go straight to test..

they put you on prescription doses

they aim for your total test to be at 1100
30 for your free test
30 for your estradiol

you get 3-5 months supply at a time

and they give you anastrozole to keep estrogen under control...




you can also email the doctor back and forth and get more or less based on how you ''feel'' not what the numbers reflect.

[vito93x]

there is doctors in Chicago, Detroit where i live, it all depends what trt clinic i choose to go with.

[michael30]

I hope everything works out for you. Im curious how you fell when your 30.