Dirty vs. clean bulk

[UrbanMammoth]

Which do you find works best?

I've done both and I must say I've experienced the most gains from dirty bulking and taking in disgusting amounts of food in off season.

[mikey hulk]

I better question is
How hard to you want to be on an already stressed body

[UrbanMammoth]

I would almost argue the weight cycling would be beneficial to the body ..

[mikey hulk]

To each their own i suppose

[Times Roman]

It's known that dynamic weight swings can stress the body...............

[UrbanMammoth]

How about natural vs. enhanced though? Anyone have experience with bulking natural??

[austinite]

Can you define clean and dirty?

"Bulking naturally" is a joke and a waste of time.

[Times Roman]

How about natural vs. enhanced though? Anyone have experience with bulking natural??

I'd say about 15 years ago, it took, me a few years to get from 210 to 250. and no AAS. And I only had a home gym to do it with......

[yettibecsuse]

Possibly variable - genetics, how long training
type of training I am sitting at 106kg ran a marathon at 100kg and have just dropped from 120kg and my grandfather died at 96 sitting at 100kg he and have not used ASS

[Succor]

Big calorie surplus on blast. Hard to gain muscle, easy to lose fat. Biggest regret most people have when using AAS is not eating enough

[David LoPan]

Can you define clean and dirty?

"Bulking naturally" is a joke and a waste of time.

Now now, you have to put an age limit on this type of comment. If your young you need to bulk naturally. But for us older, in age, this is very true

[--->>405<<---]

Can you define clean and dirty?

"Bulking naturally" is a joke and a waste of time.

clean bulk: wash all your food with soap and water prior to cooking.

dirty bulk: you dont wash all ur food with soap and water prior to cooking.

[< <Samson> >]

Dirty Bulk = being a fat fvck at the end


= a waste of time

[UrbanMammoth]

Dirty Bulk = being a fat fvck at the end = a waste of time

But put decent size on in the end

[< <Samson> >]

But put decent size on in the end

Size is irrelevant when it is crap - ask me how I know



Only way to bulk is to eat more - clean foods that is


Anything else is just eating shit, just cause



Real bulking is very difficult because of this. Filling in 3,500 cals of clean food is hard as fvck

[BG]

I dirty bulk every cycle. Its only for 3 maybe push 4 weeks though. I tried to push it further last time but it shut down my metabolism which took me to the end of my cycle to get back so it wasnt worth going that extra week. What I do, is on my training days I have 1 dirty meal, Big Mack combo, white slice with a reg w/meatballs or Wendy's spicy chicken combo. I eat this before the gym, I rotate them. I incorporate this into my cycle when Im peaked, usually week 7-8. I end it when I drop my secondary compounds around week 12. Then I keep running my test dosage for 3-4 more weeks with pretty decent carb cycling to end and get my metabolism back to normal.

[UrbanMammoth]

I dirty bulk every cycle. Its only for 3 maybe push 4 weeks though. I tried to push it further last time but it shut down my metabolism which took me to the end of my cycle to get back so it wasnt worth going that extra week. What I do, is on my training days I have 1 dirty meal, Big Mack combo, white slice with a reg w/meatballs or Wendy's spicy chicken combo. I eat this before the gym, I rotate them. I incorporate this into my cycle when Im peaked, usually week 7-8. I end it when I drop my secondary compounds around week 12. Then I keep running my test dosage for 3-4 more weeks with pretty decent carb cycling to end and get my metabolism back to normal.

So after your "dirty bulk" , you stop and continue bulking clean?

[UrbanMammoth]

Size is irrelevant when it is crap - ask me how I know Only way to bulk is to eat more - clean foods that is Anything else is just eating shit, just cause Real bulking is very difficult because of this. Filling in 3,500 cals of clean food is hard as fvck

I agree.. It is shit food but at least you keep your sanity and don't have to track every god damn macro like when you cut..

[BG]

So after your "dirty bulk" , you stop and continue bulking clean?

Yes. Always bulk eat. If I need to ill carb cycle to drop some bf or if I start to lose my appetite

[< <Samson> >]

I dirty bulk every cycle. Its only for 3 maybe push 4 weeks though. I tried to push it further last time but it shut down my metabolism which took me to the end of my cycle to get back so it wasnt worth going that extra week. What I do, is on my training days I have 1 dirty meal, Big Mack combo, white slice with a reg w/meatballs or Wendy's spicy chicken combo. I eat this before the gym, I rotate them. I incorporate this into my cycle when Im peaked, usually week 7-8. I end it when I drop my secondary compounds around week 12. Then I keep running my test dosage for 3-4 more weeks with pretty decent carb cycling to end and get my metabolism back to normal.

I like the sound of this method

But, it sounds like it is not something just any guy can do. Seems like you would really have to be in tune with your workouts, gear & nutrition.

If done improperly it sounds like it can just bloat the shit out of you and gain crap weight.

[BG]

I like the sound of this method

But, it sounds like it is not something just any guy can do. Seems like you would really have to be in tune with your workouts, gear & nutrition.

If done improperly it sounds like it can just bloat the shit out of you and gain crap weight.

Not if your cycle and training is cranking.....

[Succor]

I like the sound of this method

But, it sounds like it is not something just any guy can do. Seems like you would really have to be in tune with your workouts, gear & nutrition.

If done improperly it sounds like it can just bloat the shit out of you and gain crap weight.

Calories in, calories out. Big calorie surplus, Tren A, training your ass off. Can get away with a few "dirty" foods here and there to meet the total at the end of the day. Chicken, oats, and brown rice for 6k calories would be torture. Effect on your insides eating "dirty" on blast is more worrisome than potential negative effect on body composition

[UrbanMammoth]

Calories in, calories out. Big calorie surplus, Tren A, training your ass off. Can get away with a few "dirty" foods here and there to meet the total at the end of the day. Chicken, oats, and brown rice for 6k calories would be torture. Effect on your insides eating "dirty" on blast is more worrisome than potential negative effect on body composition

Why tren on a bulk?

[Succor]

Why tren on a bulk?

Compounds are entirely up to you but I've found it to be the best bang for my buck personally. Think the compound has several other unique abilities ex. increased feed efficiency and increased lipolysis but there are profile descriptions of the drug if you want to read into that. Explains it a hell of a lot better than I can. Helps a lot with my powerlifting too. If you eat a lot while on a bulk with it I've found that's where it really shines. Hard to do with the appetite suppression sometimes but it's only for 6-8 weeks