1st. cycle, muscle pain.

[Markski]

I'm running my first ever 15 weeks cycle:

Weeks 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 2x200mg=400mg Deca

Weeks 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 2x300mg=600mg Deca

Weeks 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 2x200mg=400mg Deca + Winstrol 2x25mg=50mg

Currently I'm starting 7th week. Everything was working good, I gained 25lb in 6 weeks. The last week I started filling pain in my muscles whenever I work them, they ache like arthritis or flu pani, after workout pain is gone, it doesn't fill as a joint pain. Any one can help to understand it?

I'm 39, 190lb, 10%fat, at start of the cycle blood work was fine, only low on testosterone 210 sends then I fixed it to 500s.

[Back In Black]

You are taking deca only, no test?

[swolehead]

your using multiple compounds first cycle? and you started your first cycle at 165? I believe there's alot wrong here.

[Rida5d]

Say good bye to ur d1ck..

[clarky.]

You are taking deca only, no test?

Another piss take a think bib.

[Markski]

You are taking deca only, no test?

Yes I do use Deca only and no test. Dik still working good no problems hehe, maybe letter I see no problems so fare.
I have only muscle pain, and that is what I don't understand. Tomorrow I'm going to do blood test for test and E.

[Markski]

your using multiple compounds first cycle? and you started your first cycle at 165? I believe there's alot wrong here.

Yes to both, I have some friends that used Deca and Wini with good results, so I went to try it.

[Markski]

This is why I'm here, what you guys suggest? I can get test or other stuff. Any suggestions to the cycle?

[Rida5d]

Yes to both, I have some friends that used Deca and Wini with good results, so I went to try it.

Man , u ll suffer..
Ur friends are stupid not to have test as base..
Deca will shut ur test production hard , and u won't function as a man

[Markski]

Man , u ll suffer.. Ur friends are stupid not to have test as base.. Deca will shut ur test production hard , and u won't function as a man

Can I still start test? And how much?

[Buster Brown]

Can I still start test? And how much?

Yes you can start it...... Dose is dependent on your goals but 250 mgs min on cycle if you are going to have the others compounds do the work .

[Markski]

Perfect I'll start 250 test a week to the end of my cycle, but if you think 500 is better I'll take 2x250 a week.

This is why I'm here, everyone have to start somewhere, thank you all.

Keep on coming with the comments, good or bad let me know I wont cry, if you call me stupid, just another guy that need help, thanks.

[Chicagotarsier]

Deca aromatizes at 10-20% rate of testosterone.

Your E2 reading is low out of zone and causing pain I imagine of epic levels. Not to mention basic body processes cannot occur because you have no test for precursor so your great diet..is not being properly digested..so on so forth.

Witht hat said my body hurt like hell first cycle due to fascia not stretching as fast as muscles grew. Get a massage also...it will help..but get some test to inject before the massage lol.

[swolehead]

the choice is yours I'd do 500 personally but I know nuthing about deca so I'd wait for someone els to comment but just wanted to say good to see your here to make thing right I know to many people that think these forums are bull. I once had a friend who I relize is realy stupid now I told him to simply Google it if he didn't believe me and he said "Google doesn't deal with side effects". I just stoped there but glad to see your not like him

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Deca aromatizes at 10-20% rate of testosterone. Your E2 reading is low out of zone and causing pain I imagine of epic levels.

Check your math. If he is currently on 600mg of deca a week than his math would be in range. Just saying low E is not causing "epic pain".
None the less he should definitely be taking test with his cycle.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Perfect I'll start 250 test a week to the end of my cycle, but if you think 500 is better I'll take 2x250 a week. This is why I'm here, everyone have to start somewhere, thank you all. Keep on coming with the comments, good or bad let me know I wont cry, if you call me stupid, just another guy that need help, thanks.

You should continue the test for at least 2 weeks after you finish your deca.

[Back In Black]

In all honesty the guy should stop his cycle and run a pct. He clearly has no idea what he is doing and could do with an early attempt at recovery after shutting himself down hard using deca.

OP what is your PCT plan?

[itsjayman02]

In all honesty the guy should stop his cycle and run a pct. He clearly has no idea what he is doing and could do with an early attempt at recovery after shutting himself down hard using deca.

OP what is your PCT plan?

He should at least start to research pct because my money is on he wont have it in place!!

So something good will come out of this ill advised cycle if you can call it one.

[swolehead]

he was only 165 he may need to do some nutrition research as well

[Markski]

Thank you guys I'm getting test, in a week. 500mg a week two shots of 250mg.
You right no PCT, I had read about it but did not buy anything as of yet. Any suggestions and how much for how long? Every where I go I read something else.