Thoughts on upcoming cycle

[zempey]

I am planning a 12 week test and deca cycle in mid December. My goal is to put on 10-15 pounds of lean mass and keep as much as possible. I plan on running prop and a test blend of 100/100/100 e/c/p along with decca. I would like some opinions on how much decca to run, it's 250mg/ml 10cc bottle, I was thinking maybe 1 shot every 4 days, not really sure how to dose this one. The prop is 100mg/ml 10cc and planned to run 2 shots per week and 1 shot of the blend.

week 1- monday-100mg prop, 250mg decca

- wed-test blend 100e/100c/100/p

-fri-250mg decca

-sat-100mg prop

I will keep the decca moving at 4 days until week 9-10

I will drop the blend after week 9 and sub in the 100mg prop through week 12

I will take hcg @ 250iu twice per week and adex at .5mg eod.

PCT will be clomid and nolvadex in the standard format.

Want to keep this as mild on the system as possible and have a good PCT. What do you think, no need to sugar coat anything, if there is something wrong, let me know.

Thanks.

[swolehead]

did you already buy the blend I would reconsider if you haven't and just pick one ester

[Mp859]

If you want to keep it as mild as possible don't run deca and just stick with test.

[zempey]

I already have the blend on hand. I ran it in the summer and it worked well. Mild as can be with decca in the mix, dosing it to be effective but not too harsh. I wanted some joint relief, I did decca back in the early 2000's and my joints felt amazing, I have bad rotators and a bad knee now. I ran tren in the summer and besides the mistakes I made before joining this site, the sides weren't bad at all. I have some Var on hand too, but didn't want to complicate things any more.

[itsjayman02]

I already have the blend on hand. I ran it in the summer and it worked well. Mild as can be with decca in the mix, dosing it to be effective but not too harsh. I wanted some joint relief, I did decca back in the early 2000's and my joints felt amazing, I have bad rotators and a bad knee now. I ran tren in the summer and besides the mistakes I made before joining this site, the sides weren't bad at all. I have some Var on hand too, but didn't want to complicate things any more.

Make sure you run an Ai

[zempey]

I have arimidex at .5mg eod, will adjust accordingly.

[Chicagotarsier]

My opinion:

If you cannot afford correct gear you sure cannot afford the food to hit a pound a week retainable gains. In the end for me it was indeed the diet. It cost me 15 bucks USD a day in food to eat properly without making it tasty with herbs and expensive condiments that are clean. For 12 weeks that is 1300 + or - USD for the minimum. In reality with my refeed days and condiments I spent almost 28 USD a day all prepared at home. That is 2400 USD. No way I am going to spend on gear AI and orals and screw myself on the diet.

Test Prop 500-700 a week
AI
hCg
PCT

[zempey]

Who said anything about not being able to afford the correct gear or food? I already have the gear, I like the blend as it worked great for me in the past. Food is not a problem, I have plenty of food and money to buy more if I need it. My question was about the cycle, mainly the decca dose and if the split with the prop and blend looked ok. I said I would like 10-15lbs, but who know's if I will get it, it is what I am shooting for. I have done the big eating before, $400/week on food not including supplements, and I grew like a mf'r even though I didn't know a fraction of the stuff I have learned by being here. I can do prop only, but I figured I would use the blend since I have it and it works.

[swolehead]

the blend would be fine to use but you should use a prop injection protocol eod to yield stable blood levels I don't have much knowledge on deca so soneone els is guna have to help you out there

[zempey]

The blend has 100mg prop and I was going to use straight prop 100mg on the other two injections.

[Buster Brown]

I would run your AI at .25 eod for starters, no need for .50 eod. Deca at 300 mgs a week will give you some solid joint relief. Jumping in a high dose of AI right off the bat may crash your E2 and make you feel like shit ( miserable feeling). I am not a fan of your tes mix but you have what you have and it works for you.

[zempey]

Thanks Buster, in the 10-12 weeks when I drop the blend, should I add in enough prop to keep the level at 500mg/week, or just leave it at 300?

[Buster Brown]

I would keep it at 500 up until pct. If I am following you correctly you are basically waiting for the e and c to clear before pct so why not use the prop and make the last few weeks productive. I have done this many times and it works great!

[zempey]

Yes, I will be doing 500mg total/week, 300p 100e 100c weeks 1-9. Then the plan was to sub in the prop in place of the c and e so they all clear out at the same time and I can start pct right away. I just wasn't sure if I should up the prop to 500mg/week or keep it at 300mg for the weeks 9-12. I like the idea of keeping it 500mg total 1-12 and being able to start pct right away. I plan on doing a spring/summer cycle after this, so getting pct started early is important.

I am really just looking for one last shot at being jacked, then maybe look into trt and accept getting old and just staying fit. I blew it when I was younger, was on my way to being a monster then got caught up in the party scene, you know how that story ends, lol.

[zempey]

Decided to drop the deca and just run the test. Going to do 100mg prop eod and test300 once per week along with hcg @ 250iu twice/week. Might have to delay a week or so because my guy can't get the adex for a couple weeks, might be able to get some from another buddy to get me by until the shipment comes in. Been sick the last two weeks so I haven't been training much, but will be back at it tomorrow.