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    Test P and EQ Advice needed!

    Hi everyone,
    Been searching around and have reached to the cycle i'm about to share with you, and i'd like to have your opinion on, and the many questions I have!

    Stats
    30yo, 5'10, 230lbs, and 16~18% BF. This will be my first cycle

    So my plan is to run the following:
    - Test P W1-8 100mgs EOD (400mg/week)
    - Equipoise W1-8 400mg OR 600mg a week (200mg 2/week or 200mg 3/week. need advice here)
    - Anavar either W1-6 or W3-8 60mg ED (need advice here)
    - Arimidex W1-8 0.5mg EOD

    I have limited the cycle to 8 weeks for a reason. It's my first cycle and I'd like to see how things are, and ensure control over any undesirable sides that might occur.
    Precycle blood work is done. I plan on doing blood work again on W5~6, and another one 3 weeks after my PCT

    PCT
    - Starts 3 days after the last Test Prop shot
    - Clomid 100/50/50/50
    - Nolva 40/40/20/20

    Now my questions are (and please bear with me, I'm here to learn from your experience):
    - I know that AI could possibly affect IGF-1 levels. Is it better to run it half way through the cycle? (I'm starting it from W1 because I'd rather be safe than sorry, but I need an experts opinion)
    - Given my current stats, what should be my Equipoise dose?
    - Initially, I was thinking of having Winstrol, since my target is cutting/lean gains. Then I have decided to change it to Anavar because of the undesirable effects on joints I kept hearing from Winstrol users. What are your thoughts on that? (I'm not concerned about the money spent on Anavar, and I know it's legit)
    - If i'm to run Anavar, is 60mg per day enough? Since I planned it for 6 weeks, is it a good idea to start with var, or end the cycle with it?
    - Last but not least, I have seen sample cycles on here with Equipoise running until the very last week, and PCT starts on the 3rd day after the Test P. However, after reading on Equipoise, it seemed to be a long ester. I'm not quite sure if I can start the PCT on the 3rd day, or I should delay it further?

    Thanks!

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    Right from the start eq must be run a minimum 14 weeks. Tes only for your first cycle.

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    I would drop the var as well. Adex @ .25 eod should suffice. See where you are.....if you are still growing week 8 then add another week or two.

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    Thanks for the valuable feedback. If i'm to run test only, is 400mg/week good enough for my weight, or should I up the dose? I'm also not sure, doing 100mg EOD will lead to 400mg & 300mg every alternating week, unless I pin twice in a row by the end of each week (should I do it like that?)

    Finally, is it better to extend Test only to 10 weeks, or throw in var by the second week if all feels good?

    Any critique on the PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthling View Post
    Thanks for the valuable feedback. If i'm to run test only, is 400mg/week good enough for my weight, or should I up the dose? I'm also not sure, doing 100mg EOD will lead to 400mg & 300mg every alternating week, unless I pin twice in a row by the end of each week (should I do it like that?)

    Finally, is it better to extend Test only to 10 weeks, or throw in var by the second week if all feels good?

    Any critique on the PCT?
    Prop ends up being 350 a week at 100 eod. Stick with that. Extend your cycle to 10 weeks as long as you are still growing .....no need to set that in stone now. Pct looks ok. Look into hcg .....250 ius twice a week will greatly help you recover post cycle.

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    I read a few articles on HCG, and understand that it helps stimulating the natural test production as it mimics the LH, but did you mean run it while on cycle, or during the PCT? Also for how long should I keep taking the two shots/week?

    As a general question, what are your thoughts of Anavar over Winstrol if I decide to introduce either half way through?

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    Both anavar and winny are mostly used for cutting,and with you being a little high on BF if you were to add them in I would do it at the end to gauge you are ok with test,but I'm guessing your cutting so calorie intake is what will dictate everything good luck!

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    Thanks for all the replies. After reading some more I think running EQ with test P is not a wise decision (short vs long esters). So for now, I think I will stick with the following:

    - Test P 100mg EOD W1-8
    - Anavar 50-70mg ED W3-8
    - Arimidex 0.25 EOD W1-8 (should I run it right from the start, or half way through? any pros/cons?)

    PCT
    - Starts 3 days after the last Test P shot
    - Clomid 100/50/50/50
    - nolva 40/40/20/20

    I might consider running the Test P for longer period of time (might extend it to 10 weeks depending on how things are with the mid cycle blood work).

    Just a couple of questions:
    - Is it better to maintain 50mg of Anavar for 6 weeks? or up the dose to 60~70?
    - Running 100mg Test P EOD means I'll be taking 400mg and 300mg every other week. half way through, should I up the dose by any chance?

    Thanks!

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    Like BB said test only first cycle. You need to figure out how your body reacts to the test. If you have some gnarly sides you won't know where it came from. Nor will you know a rough about estimate as to which AI at what amount keeps your levels in check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthling View Post
    I read a few articles on HCG, and understand that it helps stimulating the natural test production as it mimics the LH, but did you mean run it while on cycle, or during the PCT? Also for how long should I keep taking the two shots/week?

    As a general question, what are your thoughts of Anavar over Winstrol if I decide to introduce either half way through?
    You run hcg at 250 ius twice a week right up until 3 days prior to pct. Var or Winnie...........alot of times Ugls sell var that is really Winnie so I would just go with Winnie. Var is a great compound but can be hard to source.

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