18 years old, dbol and test cycle

[youngjuiced]

well, ive already bought the stuff and im going to do it so please dont try to convince me not to. I know there are many downsides and i may have problems in the future. I would like to know what problems i may have and if they are reversable. I am 6ft2 and have been this tall for atleast 4 years so i dont think im going to grow anymore. I am 155 lbs and have done a dbol only cycle about a year ago. It was a complete **** up but i feel i gave my body enough time to recover... just want some info before i start. I have friends that have done cycles at 17 so i just wanna know how ****ed r we gunna be at 30 and can i somehow reverse this. Thanks.

[NACH3]

well, ive already bought the stuff and im going to do it so please dont try to convince me not to. I know there are many downsides and i may have problems in the future. I would like to know what problems i may have and if they are reversable. I am 6ft2 and have been this tall for atleast 4 years so i dont think im going to grow anymore. I am 155 lbs and have done a dbol only cycle about a year ago. It was a complete **** up but i feel i gave my body enough time to recover... just want some info before i start. I have friends that have done cycles at 17 so i just wanna know how ****ed r we gunna be at 30 and can i somehow reverse this. Thanks.

Time on + PCT = time off... The only way to know if you've recovered is thru BW!!! Not how you feel... And yes you will most definitely have problems in the future as your HPTA isn't near maturity, neither are your Epiphyseal plates fused yet... So very very dangerous! Like playing Russian Roulette w/your Hormones!!!

It's a shame that you feel you need AAS at such a young age... Can I ask why?

Have you even tried the correct diet to make gains naturally? Your test lecels Are thru the roof in these yrs coming! If your thinking they're gonna just blow you up just by taking them your sorely mistaken... You should get a solid base/foundation of muscle b4 using AAS!! Your tendons & ligaments arent strong enough to support your joints(hence injuries... Usually like a POP) and it's all over from there... There are many things to consider b4 ever using AAS!

Reconsider abd GL!

[human project]

well, ive already bought the stuff and im going to do it so please dont try to convince me not to. I know there are many downsides and i may have problems in the future. I would like to know what problems i may have and if they are reversable. I am 6ft2 and have been this tall for atleast 4 years so i dont think im going to grow anymore. I am 155 lbs and have done a dbol only cycle about a year ago. It was a complete **** up but i feel i gave my body enough time to recover... just want some info before i start. I have friends that have done cycles at 17 so i just wanna know how ****ed r we gunna be at 30 and can i somehow reverse this. Thanks.

Just because your done growing taller doesn't mean your done growing wider... Once your testosterone reaches a certain level your bones will fuze and they won't grow anymore.... Also at 6'2 and 155 you can still grow another 100lbs natural and when you gain muscle naturally you will never ever looses it unless you quit eating... After a cycle it is super easy to loose any gains you gained... Honetly in my opinion you could probably gain just as fast natural as you could on a cycle just by zeroing in you're diet end training regimen... At this age you could very well mess up your natural production forever... I know a ton of people who all started young and the majority of them have to take a trt dose forever. What does your diet look like?? How many calories do you take in daily and what do your macros look like also what makes you want to steer a cycle already?? Trust me your going to want to build a solid natural base before you start cycling and if you do that you will end up withm much more muscle in the end

[zeus009]

ye dude all the best i ran some tren n my first cycle n the gains were through the roof

fking gained over 42 pounds my first cycle all the best

[ghettoboyd]

ye dude all the best i ran some tren n my first cycle n the gains were through the roof

fking gained over 42 pounds my first cycle all the best

anyone who gains 30-40 lbs on a cycle has/had absolutely no real base from which to build upon and no real reason to use aas...id love to see the before and after pics...and tren for first cycle?, that's just irresponsible...don't encourage other to try the same please...thanks...

[NACH3]

anyone who gains 30-40 lbs on a cycle has/had absolutely no real base from which to build upon and no real reason to use aas...id love to see the before and after pics...and tren for first cycle?, that's just irresponsible...don't encourage other to try the same please...thanks...

Yo, there is a thread... It's in this section as of today... He just came back on... And has been in every younger thread encouraging em!

[ghettoboyd]

Yo, there is a thread... It's in this section as of today... He just came back on... And has been in every younger thread encouraging em!

awesome just what we need the blind leading the blind...the sad thing is is that he is telling these kids exactly what they ant to here...I weep for there futures...

[NACH3]

awesome just what we need the blind leading the blind...the sad thing is is that he is telling these kids exactly what they ant to here...I weep for there futures...

I know!!! I'm pissed! It's exactly what they want to hear(they haven't been back on since) I'm hoping they know he's a troll(if they know what that is)...

I told em in one of the threads to stop steering young members to cycle... It's fvkin horrible!!!

[youngjuiced]

ive ****ed up and done a dbol only cycle last year for 8 weeks with no pct. Ive considered not doing it but thats would mean taking a $200 hit.

[bsh]

ive ****ed up and done a dbol only cycle last year for 8 weeks with no pct. Ive considered not doing it but thats would mean taking a $200 hit.

consider it the best 200$ u will ever spend! Plz listen to the vets here and wait

[EquilibriumZ]

ive ****ed up and done a dbol only cycle last year for 8 weeks with no pct. Ive considered not doing it but thats would mean taking a $200 hit.

Yo you can take it in few years. It ll still be good, just the potency will be lower, like it ll be worth 170$ instead. So ya it's a good investment not tk take it, considering the damage in future

[Cody95]

ye dude all the best i ran some tren n my first cycle n the gains were through the roof

fking gained over 42 pounds my first cycle all the best

Horrible advice..

[zeus009]

Horrible advice..

think wut u want but pro bodybuilders didnt get that way waiting till ur age to start juicing brah

u already behind, im like 10 years younger prob n bigger n stronger htan u already

[Cody95]

well, ive already bought the stuff and im going to do it so please dont try to convince me not to. I know there are many downsides and i may have problems in the future. I would like to know what problems i may have and if they are reversable. I am 6ft2 and have been this tall for atleast 4 years so i dont think im going to grow anymore. I am 155 lbs and have done a dbol only cycle about a year ago. It was a complete **** up but i feel i gave my body enough time to recover... just want some info before i start. I have friends that have done cycles at 17 so i just wanna know how ****ed r we gunna be at 30 and can i somehow reverse this. Thanks.

6'2, 155lbs and you want to do a cycle. Is this a joke? I really hope it is because you clearly don't know what food is, (no offence). At your height you should easly be 190-200, 155 just shows you have absolutely no idea what a diet is or anything about building muscle, because your diet is more important then anything, AAS do NOT do sh*t! If you don't have a proper diet, and you don't. Also yes you will f*ck yourself up for life. Go ahead and do what you want, I see the same question over and over. Not trying to sounds like a D*ck, but it's true. You need to get your diet in check and gain atleast another 50lbs NATURALLY, before you even think about cycling. You will gain absolutely no muscle from this cycle, maybe a little water weight, waste your money and a good chance to ruin your future.

[youngjuiced]

Thanks alot everyone i think ill just take the $200 loss and maybe Consider it when im a bit older. Is there anyway i can use the dbols (25mg) safely? ive done them before but stoped abruptly at 8 weeks once i reached testicular atrophy and freaked. My balls have gone back to normal since than tho.

[fitnesstrainer]

Thanks alot everyone i think ill just take the $200 loss and maybe Consider it when im a bit older. Is there anyway i can use the dbols (25mg) safely? ive done them before but stoped abruptly at 8 weeks once i reached testicular atrophy and freaked. My balls have gone back to normal since than tho.

There's nothing in the realm of steroids you can take safely. Get BW done to make sure you actually recovered. Your balls aren't a true indicator of your internal recoverey.

[human project]

Thanks alot everyone i think ill just take the $200 loss and maybe Consider it when im a bit older. Is there anyway i can use the dbols (25mg) safely? ive done them before but stoped abruptly at 8 weeks once i reached testicular atrophy and freaked. My balls have gone back to normal since than tho.

D Bol only is a terrible cycle even if you were old enough.... Pills suck and are only used if in a competition where strength is needed and/or in the very first few weeks of a cycle to kick start your gains bc the longer esters take longer to kick in.... D Bol only cycles are just putting unneeded stress on your liver with no benefit.... You will no matter what loose all of your gains i guarantee it... In my experience pills are not worth it... Test is all you need for the first several cycles but again man I'm telling you there will be no added benefit to cycling at your age... You can easily get to 220-250 depending on your genetics without steroids and then you will keep those gains for life.... I've barely worked out and haven't taken a steroid in two years bc of injuries and some other personal issues in my life and I'm still over 240 and can see every ab and all the muscles in my obliques along with all my ribs... When you come off of steroids and stop working out it then it's not hard for your body to go back to damn near where you were before you started steroids... Do you want that to be 150 or 250??

[NACH3]

Thanks alot everyone i think ill just take the $200 loss and maybe Consider it when im a bit older. Is there anyway i can use the dbols (25mg) safely? ive done them before but stoped abruptly at 8 weeks once i reached testicular atrophy and freaked. My balls have gone back to normal since than tho.

Very wise decision! I'm glad you got something outta this thread! As you can see it's not a smart idea

Regarding your question... No, don't run any kind of compound(orals or injectables) without a testosterone base... This will always be used in any cycle... Just taking d-Bol will shut down your natural test production which has a wide array of functions... the body (internally and externally) and brain...

It's best to wait it out keep it in a dark place for when your ready... And test only first cycles...

Eat big to get big...

Edit: writting at same time....

[workinprogress21]

6'2, 155lbs and you want to do a cycle. Is this a joke? I really hope it is because you clearly don't know what food is, (no offence). At your height you should easly be 190-200, 155 just shows you have absolutely no idea what a diet is or anything about building muscle, because your diet is more important then anything, AAS do NOT do sh*t! If you don't have a proper diet, and you don't. Also yes you will f*ck yourself up for life. Go ahead and do what you want, I see the same question over and over. Not trying to sounds like a D*ck, but it's true. You need to get your diet in check and gain atleast another 50lbs NATURALLY, before you even think about cycling. You will gain absolutely no muscle from this cycle, maybe a little water weight, waste your money and a good chance to ruin your future.

No offense, but don't you have a few PH cycles and a prop cycle under your belt? I'm not saying your advice is bad by any means though. I'm simply stating that instead of trying to act like you actually waited explain the risks to him and maybe you could even offer a personal experience so as to explain your point even more on not using AAS at this age, since you used them yourself right?

[Back In Black]

He also grew 1 year in 4 years

I do not doubt for one second that he gained 70lbs in six years natty. The question is how much of that mass is fat? It most certainly is not muscle! I once gained 20lbs natty in one month. It was when Arby's came out with the foot long french dip sandwich! I ate two of them f'ers everyday for a month!

I think he is full of shit. He hasn't cycled for 2 years. 5 years ago he was cycling. He gained 4lbs of muscle in the last 5 years and thinks he is going pro.

[NACH3]

I think he is full of shit. He hasn't cycled for 2 years. 5 years ago he was cycling. He gained 4lbs of muscle in the last 5 years and thinks he is going pro.

Lmao... Nothin gets by BIB!!

[kelkel]

Lmao... Nothin gets by BIB!!

Quite the scary memory!

[Cody95]

think wut u want but pro bodybuilders didnt get that way waiting till ur age to start juicing brah

u already behind, im like 10 years younger prob n bigger n stronger htan u already

Are you high? I'm 19 and 204 pounds, I've been bodybuilding nearly 7 years. Sense I was 13. Keep talking sh*t bud.

[zeus009]

Are you high? I'm 19 and 204 pounds, I've been bodybuilding nearly 7 years. Sense I was 13. Keep talking sh*t bud.

lmao, 7 years? n im bigger in 3 months on the gear... hahahaha

u telling pple not to cycle yet u just wrote that ur getting suicidal thoughts on cycle brah

stick to natty gains its all u need

get that head checked 2

[human project]

lmao, 7 years? n im bigger in 3 months on the gear... hahahaha

u telling pple not to cycle yet u just wrote that ur getting suicidal thoughts on cycle brah

stick to natty gains its all u need

get that head checked 2

Post some pics to prove your bigger then us... I have plenty of pics in my profile and that hasn't been updated since I joined; id like to see if you really hold more muscle then me and if so I'll let you plan my next cycle

[zeus009]

yeh n bro ur 19 u shudnt of "cycling" bahaha

[NACH3]

yeh n bro ur 19 u shudnt of "cycling" bahaha

STOP GIVING BAD SBD CARELESS ADVICE! These kids can FVKIN ruin there lives and your just makin a joke about it! You know it's what they want to hear but far from the fvkin truth!

[Cody95]

think wut u want but pro bodybuilders didnt get that way waiting till ur age to start juicing brah

u already behind, im like 10 years younger prob n bigger n stronger htan u already

You're a troll and an idiot, you have zero knowledge of bodybuilding, or anything to do with fitness, you're just a troll. Don't give anymore bad advice, all you're going to do is hurt people that don't know what they're doing, and please. Grow up.

[Cody95]

lmao, 7 years? n im bigger in 3 months on the gear... hahahaha

u telling pple not to cycle yet u just wrote that ur getting suicidal thoughts on cycle brah

stick to natty gains its all u need

get that head checked 2

Like I said, you're a troll. Your words mean nothing, except the fact, that it reveals your immaturity.

[zeus009]

Like I said, you're a troll. Your words mean nothing, except the fact, that it reveals your immaturity.

bro u the 1 with suicidal thoughts while im over here getting bigger n sstronger

[Cody95]

yeh n bro ur 19 u shudnt of "cycling" bahaha

You're right, and I learned my lesson on cycling at a young age. That's why I'm actually trying to help people instead of giving them horrible advice, like you're doing.

[Cody95]

bro u the 1 with suicidal thoughts while im over here getting bigger n sstronger

"Had", that was over a year ago little man. Learn to read.

[zeus009]

"Had", that was over a year ago little man. Learn to read.

srry brah cant hear u over the insane vascularity im getting from tren

[kelkel]

srry brah cant hear u over the insane vascularity im getting from tren

I know plenty of fitness girls with more veins. Try again.

[bsh]

Ban this fool...

[Cody95]

STOP GIVING BAD SBD CARELESS ADVICE! These kids can FVKIN ruin there lives and your just makin a joke about it! You know it's what they want to hear but far from the fvkin truth!

Agreed.

[Cody95]

srry brah cant hear u over the insane vascularity im getting from tren

http://i58.tinypic.com/e6qa35.jpg

Lmao, obvious fail troll.

[NACH3]

edit: Should be banned, for giving detrimental advice on the young & cycling!

[zeus009]

im just saying op if u want to be 30 and barely look like u work out (like them) follow these guys advise but if u wanna be a monster beast its better to start younger, everything has risks but im living proof that the gains out weigh them!!

[EquilibriumZ]

im just saying op if u want to be 30 and barely look like u work out (like them) follow these guys advise but if u wanna be a monster beast its better to start younger, everything has risks but im living proof that the gains out weigh them!!

Lol u still look like shit with that juice.
Dont worry, he can still start at 24-25 and be bigger than u still u ll be on trt. U mad?