Problems after pct

[sdog1313]

I finished my cycle of test mast tren 3months ago.

I did 4 week pct of nolva and clomid.

I finished pct 8 weeks ago.

Everything Has been fine , I had bloods done last week and the doc says I've recovered but.........

The last 2 weeks I've noticed my erections are not 100% hard. I can get it up and use it but just doesn't feel rock hard . Also I only get morning wood once a week .

And also since ending pct my nipples seem to be a lot harder all the time and can be seen through all my t shirts .

Any advice from anyone would be greatly appreciated .

[Oki-Des]

Sorry about your problem. I wish I could offer you some better advice than Back in Black offered before taking tren on your first cycle. He said your recovery is likely to be bumpy and now you are seeing that when you read conflicting information you should always consider staying on the side of being cautious.
I do hope you get better soon, but just wanted to point out that it is a lot easier to prevent problems than it is to fix them later. I did the same thing you did too, but now I spend a hell of a lot of money correcting my mistakes simply to live a somewhat normal life. Good luck man.

[Mr.BB]

You need to do blood work

[Back In Black]

Test, mast, tren AND anavar. Hopefully next time you will actually take the advice given.

Post up your pre and post cycle bloodwork, don't just take your docs word that you have 'recovered'.

[sdog1313]

I will get the numbers off the doctor on Monday and post them here from my pre and post cycle bloodwork

[Ashop]

You need to do blood work

I would give it sometime,,,2 weeks or so and see where your lab work stands.

[sdog1313]

PRE CYCLE
test 9.5
fsh 4.4
LH 3.3
Estrogen less than 50

POST CYCLE
test 14.1
FSH 2.5
LH 2.3
ESTROGEN 103
PROLACTIN 211

[numbere]

PRE CYCLE
test 9.5
fsh 4.4
LH 3.3
Estrogen less than 50

POST CYCLE
test 14.1
FSH 2.5
LH 2.3
ESTROGEN 103
PROLACTIN 211

Please add the reference ranges.

Is that free test or total test?

[sdog1313]

Test 14.1 (10-35)
Fsh 2.5 (1.5 - 12.5)
LH 2.3 ( 1.7 - 8.6)
Estrogen 103 (99-192)
Prolactin 211 (86-324)

Does it look like I have recovered ?

[sdog1313]

Test 14.1 (10-35)
FSH 2.5 ( 1.5 -12.4)
LH 2.3 (1.7 - 8.6)
Estrogen 103 (99 - 192)
Prolactin 211 (86-325)

Does it look like I've recovered?

[AR's King Silabolin]

well yes....your little sexual problem may come from low fsh because fsh stimulate the..ouhh..whats the english word for "sæd"-...semen-cells???no??..in your balls, not det leydigcell but the other ones. So..i think your wood will be ok in 1-2 months

[numbere]

You're LH and test are very low.

14.1 nmol/L is about 406 ng/dL

That places you in the lower 20% of the adult male reference range.

I think you should continue eating healthy and training hard for a few more weeks and then have more labs. If LH and test are still low then consider another course of PCT.

It would be useful if you had pre cycle labs to compare. I understand this must be a difficult time but you need to be more patient. Some require close to a year to recover after a hard cycle.

Edit: I just read you post history and you ran an excessive first cycle. HPTA reset will be a while.

[sdog1313]

My pre cycle results are posted above how do my new results compare them ?

[numbere]

My pre cycle results are posted above how do my new results compare them ?

Your test/e2 ratio is much lower now than it was pre cycle.

This is likely what's causing your ED issues.

[RangerDanger830]

well yes....your little sexual problem may come from low fsh because fsh stimulate the..ouhh..whats the english word for "sæd"-...semen-cells???no??..in your balls, not det leydigcell but the other ones. So..i think your wood will be ok in 1-2 months

You're looking for the ole Sertoli cells.

[sdog1313]

Any point taking some clomid now for a few weeks ? Or just wait it out ?

[Mr.BB]

Whats the estrogen units and does it say e2 estradiol?

Or it total estrogen (e1+e2) ??

[sdog1313]

Total test and total estrogen

[Mr.BB]

Total test and total estrogen

Then you have wrong test. You need to E2 Estradiol sensitive assay, in some countries you cant find the "sensitive" test, still you need beta17 E2 estradiol for males.

No way of understanding your estrogen situation as e2 is what matters and you dont have that value.

[sdog1313]

Then you have wrong test. You need to E2 Estradiol sensitive assay, in some countries you cant find the "sensitive" test, still you need beta17 E2 estradiol for males.

No way of understanding your estrogen situation as e2 is what matters and you dont have that value.

Sorry I was mistaken
It is total test and estradiol E2

[Mr.BB]

Sorry I was mistaken
It is total test and estradiol E2

In what units its measured?

[sdog1313]

Pmol/l Range 99-192

[sdog1313]

In what units its measured?

Pmol/l Range 99-192

[sdog1313]

Anybody think I should do another pct ?

[Mr.BB]

Another pct? For what? Your test levels are higher than before cycle, unless you messed the post up there. How long after PCT was this blood work done?

But you really should have posted the whole blood work, there are other things to recover besides the testosterone level, and those are the ones that can kill you...

[sdog1313]

Bloodwork was 8 weeks post pct ,

EArlier in the thread someone said my test LH and FsH is still low . And someone said my test/e2 ratio was lower which could be the problem ?

My lack of morning wood and soft erections are what is bothering me so would like to know if there is anything I can do now to speed recovery ?

I posted everything the doctor told me
What else is there ?
He said me cholesterol and liver values were good and I had my liver and cholesterol checked at a different doctors as well

[Mr.BB]

Well, your precycle value is much lower, if you felt good precycle no reason (from the bloodwork analysis) to fell worse now, on the contrary.

Your precycle value is so low that you should not have cycled before finding out what was going on.

There are plenty of men with values around 14.1 nmol/l that feel fine and no need trt, although depending on your age, this can considered a low value.

Morning wood doesnt mean anything. Soft erections there are an array of reasons that can lead to that, from circulatory problems to psycological problems, etc. Testosterone mostly increase libido and therefore one can have more erections but it does not have a direct effect on the erection mechanism. You can try proviron for a few days to see if increasing the androgens ratio improves your erections.

[sdog1313]

Could it be lower LH and FSH that would be causing the problems ?

[Mr.BB]

Could it be lower LH and FSH that would be causing the problems ?

What problem? ED?

No. Not directly anyways.