Question about my first cycle

[wally0206]

Hi there, looking for advice on my first cycle, What is the best time to take my stack compared to my workout time and eating, and do i need to take any of the stack on off days? Below is my current daily routine,appreciate any advice, thanks.

Male
38 years old
Asian\American
160lb
18-20%bf

Goal
build lean muscle, not large over all, little more chest and shoulder, desire bigger calves thou
burn fat, try to have nice waist line, still have love handles, even thou i have lost 20lbs over the last year.

Health
Heart Condition
CML
BPH


Currently work out 6-7 days a week, have been training for about 14 months, down from 185lbs, lost decent bf, with some small lean muscle gains


Daily Nutrition
(Water is about 1 1\2 to 2 gallons a day)

3am
Supplement
Pre work out
Vitamin Iron pak
1x 40mg Clenbuterol
8x 10mg Oxandrolone
1x .5mg Anastrozole

Food
4x Omega eggs w/baby spinach
1x tablespoon natural peanut butter


Gym 4am to 6-7am
45-60 min weights
60-90 min cardio
10-15 min hiit

6am
Supplement
n/a

Food
Shake 25g
1x tablespoon natural peanut butter

9am
Supplement
Omega

Food
6oz Chicken or Steak w/baby spinach
1/2 cup Macadamia


12pm
Supplement
n/a


Food
Shake 25g
1x tablespoon natural peanut butter

3pm
Supplement
n/a


Food
4oz Chicken or Steak w/baby spinach
1/2 cup Macadamia


6pm
Supplement
n/a

Food
Shake 25g
1x tablespoon natural peanut butter


9pm
Supplement
Iron Dream
Omega

Food
Shake 50g
1x tablespoon natural peanut butter

[SidVicious77]

Dude, when do you sleep?!?

[wally0206]

9pm to 3am most days, if it is an off day then i sleep till around 6-7am, sometimes i take 30-45min naps around 10-11am, not sure if that is good thou

[Bodacious]

Hey Wally, Hey man I don't think a cycle is a good call at that BF% right now. I would try and get that down some more before starting a cycle. It seems like your on the right track. Head over to the diet and Nutrition thread. We have some gurus in there that can help you out on your diet and help you get where you want to be. I would get BF down to 15% at the most before starting.

Also check this out..
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[TheTaxMan]

Hi Wally

Oral only cycles are a no go, injectable testosterone needs to be the base of any cycle, and for a first cycle, only injectable testosterone

I think you need to get your diet sorted so you can grow muscle first - then cycle once disciplined in this area.

Well done on the fat loss, however its recommended you get under 15%bf before cycling anything. the reason for this is when cycling at high bodyfat your likely to increase the risk of negative sides.
Once you get under 15%, EAT/diet in order to grow lean mass.

Your only 160lbs, once you lose more bodyfat your going to be near 150lbs which tells me you barely have any muscle base to even consider cycling.
How tall are you?

Get your growth going naturaly for a while before using gear.

EDIT: i also notice you need to eat alot more protein based whole foods rather than depending on 3 shakes a day, get more meat, fish, oats in your daily diet!

[ScotchGuard02]

Remember, you heal and grow when you're sleeping. You need rest like you need food and AAS. Rest is just an integral as food, AAS, and training. If you're 160lbs and 20% bf, you still have too much bf. You should to be down below 15% or less before you cycle. The thing about AAS is that it isn't really a short cut like people think. It just enhances what you have. If you're bf is high you'll have a higher chance of getting gyno and other complications. If you're 10% bf and in good shape, your AAS experience is going to be, for the most part, awesome.

[wally0206]

Thanks for the replies, i will see if they can measure my bf% tomorrow at the gym, i was just going of the last reading i tried to do with the caliper that came in the mail with a bb.com order a couple months ago, attached is a couple progress pics from the last couple months.

will follow up if i get a new "true" reading

[TheTaxMan]

Despite your bodyfat

You dont have enough muscle foundation to warrant cycling

Your body to me doesnt look like it weight lifts, you want to put on skme mass naturaly first, get disciplined, strengthen the tendons and ligaments before pumping hormones in your body