how much surplus?

[gege2003]

hi guys, i am planning a cycle with 700mg of test prop. i am 5.9 81kg(on low carb) 18% bodyfat

i know my bodyfat is on the high side but i wanna get big but keep fat under 20%. my tdee is 2500kcal will a 1000kcal surplus suit me?

[tarmyg]

Have you cycled before?

[gege2003]

Have you cycled before?

yes the same dose,but i messed up a bit because i wasn't eating enough.

[tice1212]

hi guys, i am planning a cycle with 700mg of test prop. i am 5.9 81kg(on low carb) 18% bodyfat

i know my bodyfat is on the high side but i wanna get big but keep fat under 20%. my tdee is 2500kcal will a 1000kcal surplus suit me?

To be honest with u, ur bf needs to come down to at least15% before running this cycle. Ur going to hit a bunch of side effects. If I was u I would run a cutting cycle. 500mg test, 75mcg t3, clen. If ur TDEE is only 2500 do u have an office job? Btw with that high of body fat ur for sure not on a low carb diet

[gege2003]

To be honest with u, ur bf needs to come down to at least15% before running this cycle. Ur going to hit a bunch of side effects. If I was u I would run a cutting cycle. 500mg test, 75mcg t3, clen. If ur TDEE is only 2500 do u have an office job? Btw with that high of body fat ur for sure not on a low carb diet

i am now 1 month low carb, i will refeed soon because i read that can make a difference on caliper.
For the bodyfat what side are you talking? i cycled at 20% before, no side,bp in check,boobs to,bloat down.

i don't wanna cut i feel small but i don't wanna get over 20% so i will eat clean.

yes i have a desk job.

[Trapology]

i am now 1 month low carb, i will refeed soon because i read that can make a difference on caliper.
For the bodyfat what side are you talking? i cycled at 20% before, no side,bp in check,boobs to,bloat down.

i don't wanna cut i feel small but i don't wanna get over 20% so i will eat clean.

yes i have a desk job.

Probably the worst thing youre looking at is a very high estrogen conversation. Thats one of the most important things to be concerned about cycling with a high BF

[OdinsOtherSon]

http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutri...%2A%2A%2A.html

This is a stickie in the diet/nutrition forum. It will answer your question, but short answer is if you eat 1000 over a tdee of 2500, better invest in some lipozeine.

[gege2003]

Probably the worst thing youre looking at is a very high estrogen conversation. Thats one of the most important things to be concerned about cycling with a high BF

I keep my estro in good range with adex.

[gege2003]

http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutri...%2A%2A%2A.html

This is a stickie in the diet/nutrition forum. It will answer your question, but short answer is if you eat 1000 over a tdee of 2500, better invest in some lipozeine.

Good read,thank you.

[Trapology]

I keep my estro in good range with adex.

Do yo get blood work to know this for a fact?

[gege2003]

Do yo get blood work to know this for a fact?

the last cycle no,but this time i will do blood work 3 week in and adjust dose if needed.

On my last cycle i have done one blood work for month (basic health check) and everything was good except Hematocrit( i take care of that)