Tren e acte

[Althenery]

How can you control tren e acne at 400 mg a week?

[Bio-Active]

List out your exact cycle with ancillaries please ?

[TheTaxMan]

Whats your tren experience and your stats? 400mg is quite a lot

[Althenery]

List out your exact cycle with ancillaries please ?

I'm running test c @250 mg a week and tren e @200 mg a week and letrozole @ .7 mcg every day.
Everything was going perfect until I upped the tren to 400 mg a week and boom! I got like 5 pimples out of nowhere.
I remember reading something about prolactin levels. To be on check while on tren but I don't know exactly what to do, last time this happened u just dropped the tren to half dose (200mg a week) and the acne stepped and cleared but there's always those lil dark spots that take months to go away but that not my concern, my concern is how can I run tren @ 400 mg without getting new acne?? Because I love tren ? makes me feel angry and good but hate acne!

[Althenery]

Whats your tren experience and your stats? 400mg is quite a lot

bummp

[TheTaxMan]

Blood work is the only way to see whats going on, your AI might need adjusted when you double the dose from 200mg tren per week to 400mg per week.

Its all guessing without bloodwork.

You could take the acne meds, try tanning and instead of showering, pour lots of sea salt in your baths to help clear the pours.

[ScotchGuard02]

http://forums.steroid.com/steroid-co...acne-free.html is what I follow

[Mp859]

5 pimples? That's not acne man

[Bio-Active]

I'm running test c @250 mg a week and tren e @200 mg a week and letrozole @ .7 mcg every day. Everything was going perfect until I upped the tren to 400 mg a week and boom! I got like 5 pimples out of nowhere. I remember reading something about prolactin levels. To be on check while on tren but I don't know exactly what to do, last time this happened u just dropped the tren to half dose (200mg a week) and the acne stepped and cleared but there's always those lil dark spots that take months to go away but that not my concern, my concern is how can I run tren @ 400 mg without getting new acne?? Because I love tren ? makes me feel angry and good but hate acne!

why are you running letro? It's really strong and works for some but I would run a dex or stane. At that test dose you probably don't need much either

[mikegilbert1986]

I'm running test c @250 mg a week and tren e @200 mg a week and letrozole @ .7 mcg every day. Everything was going perfect until I upped the tren to 400 mg a week and boom! I got like 5 pimples out of nowhere. I remember reading something about prolactin levels. To be on check while on tren but I don't know exactly what to do, last time this happened u just dropped the tren to half dose (200mg a week) and the acne stepped and cleared but there's always those lil dark spots that take months to go away but that not my concern, my concern is how can I run tren @ 400 mg without getting new acne?? Because I love tren ? makes me feel angry and good but hate acne!

tren doesnt convert to estrogen test does your only useing 250mg a week drop the letro all that gonna do is screw up ur cycle you can get away without a ai with only 250mg a week. cabar for 400mg a week .25 twice week if ai needed use arimidex .25 eod. i would only use letro if i had gyno lumps. as for the acme dont worry about it ushaly when you start acme breaks out but it tapers down after so long if you have srs issue just get acutane i get some on my back from tren like your explaing but doesnt bother me much it goes away doesnt scar who cares it just looks purple weird like its going to scar but it doesnt.

[Althenery]

why are you running letro? It's really strong and works for some but I would run a dex or stane. At that test dose you probably don't need much either

I don't get gyno with test even at 750 a week but with tren e my strongen went up really high and letro completely reversed

[Althenery]

tren doesnt convert to estrogen test does your only useing 250mg a week drop the letro all that gonna do is screw up ur cycle you can get away without a ai with only 250mg a week. cabar for 400mg a week .25 twice week if ai needed use arimidex .25 eod. i would only use letro if i had gyno lumps. as for the acme dont worry about it ushaly when you start acme breaks out but it tapers down after so long if you have srs issue just get acutane i get some on my back from tren like your explaing but doesnt bother me much it goes away doesnt scar who cares it just looks purple weird like its going to scar but it doesnt.

I wasn't running an ai because I never had issues with gyno but for some reason tren e gave me gyno so letro helped me

[mikegilbert1986]

I wasn't running an ai because I never had issues with gyno but for some reason tren e gave me gyno so letro helped me

if i dont use cabar my nips start hurten. theres two different gyno 1 from estrogen the other from prolactin

[NACH3]

I wasn't running an ai because I never had issues with gyno but for some reason tren e gave me gyno so letro helped me

Don't just go off gyno as a side - it's internally that BW paints the picture for us...

What did we all tell you prior to running this cycle..,. AI from the start! Now your back later asking why?! Usually high(er) estrogen(even tho tren doesn't aromatize it surely binds to the ER At a high affinity) so AI is a must regardless... Since you don't have BW - we're just guessing and I'm sure after doubling your tren dose your Estro is high not running an AI!! Are you running a DA(dopamine agonist) prami/or caber)??

[rGus]

I feel like whenever I use Letro with nandrolone, DA isn't needed. But of course I always have it just in case.

[Althenery]

Don't just go off gyno as a side - it's internally that BW paints the picture for us... What did we all tell you prior to running this cycle..,. AI from the start! Now your back later asking why?! Usually high(er) estrogen(even tho tren doesn't aromatize it surely binds to the ER At a high affinity) so AI is a must regardless... Since you don't have BW - we're just guessing and I'm sure after doubling your tren dose your Estro is high not running an AI!! Are you running a DA(dopamine agonist) prami/or caber)??

I had letro in hand just in case, I'm glad I had it cuz it lowered the Stogen, my concer it's not gyno that under control, my concer its acne, I started taking 5g of b5 and its clearing my skin and not a new single pimple. What exactly caber does?

[Ashop]

How can you control tren e acne at 400 mg a week?

I like salicylic acid for treating acne. Benzoyl peroxide products make my acne worse.

[Althenery]

I like salicylic acid for treating acne. Benzoyl peroxide products make my acne worse.

I'm on 5-6 g of b5 right now and it's doing miracles ! But I'll try ur seggestion if b5 doesn't work as spected ??

[NACH3]

I had letro in hand just in case, I'm glad I had it cuz it lowered the Stogen, my concer it's not gyno that under control, my concer its acne, I started taking 5g of b5 and its clearing my skin and not a new single pimple. What exactly caber does?

Caber of prami are Dopamine Agonists that control your prolactin from elevating...

So anytime you run a 19nor its a progestin... Which in theory, if your E2 gets elevated... Prolactin usually follows... Meaning more sexual dysfunctionality... How's your libido...

only way to really know is BW...

[TheTaxMan]

Does caber lower prolactin or just prevent it from raising further?

[NACH3]

Does caber lower prolactin or just prevent it from raising further?

Ideally, it would lower elevated prolactin and keep it in range as well!

I wouldn't run it just b/c, it's a strong drug... Controls dopamine(which could get all out of wack if taken too much) too little of prolactin is not good, nor is too much(like estrogen) - but that's the importance of mid cycle BW - make your necessary adjustments from there...

[Mr.BB]

Nach, if males need prolactin it is unknown what for

Last time measured mine it was lower than what the lab could read, was using a "bit" of caber for sexual performance

On cycle, I just use if required.

[NACH3]

Nach, if males need prolactin it is unknown what for

Last time measured mine it was lower than what the lab could read, was using a "bit" of caber for sexual performance

On cycle, I just use if required.

I only use it after pulling mids, also... I did speak to Jimmy about this regarding if ones Prolactin(male) is too low(it could very well effect male sexual function) hence, why we've used caber/of a DA for some sexual performance - I've also noticed w/prami when I nut - it's super duper fantastic never tried caber yet

Didn't we discuss that prolactin can have an effect on the brain as well?! I'm just thinking back to us talking about this b4 -

Anyway seems like we've not had many bad problems with them when used lol

[novastepp]

Prolactin was recently studied and it was discussed that low levels may have a negative effect on sexual performance, including weak orgasm and sexual desire. Low levels were also linked to signs of a depressed emotional state.

You both are right.

[Mr.BB]

What has an effect on brain is the dopamine which every DA will increase.

Dont want to open any pandoras box, but my gf is luving caber for multiple O's

[Mr.BB]

Prolactin was recently studied and it was discussed that low levels may have a negative effect on sexual performance, including weak orgasm and sexual desire. Low levels were also linked to signs of a depressed emotional state.

You both are right.

Do you have link Nova?

What i am studying is a discussed lower GH output while on caber (havent found confirmation of this as of yet)

[NACH3]

What has an effect on brain is the dopamine which every DA will increase.

Dont want to open any pandoras box, but my gf is luving caber for multiple O's

good job brother

[Bonaparte]

What has an effect on brain is the dopamine which every DA will increase.

Sorry to be a stickler, but a receptor agonist stimulates the target receptor without actually increasing it's usual chemical messenger.
In this case, a dopamine agonist stimulate dopamine receptors, but does not affect actual dopamine levels (it doesn't need to, since it replaces dopamine's function).

[NACH3]

Sorry to be a stickler, but a receptor agonist stimulates the target receptor without actually increasing it's usual chemical messenger.
In this case, a dopamine agonist stimulate dopamine receptors, but does not affect actual dopamine levels (it doesn't need to, since it replaces dopamine's function).

I like when your a stickler

[Mr.BB]

I like when your a stickler

Dont know whats a stickler, but always enjoy Bonas knowledge

[NACH3]

Dont know whats a stickler, but always enjoy Bonas knowledge

Likewise!

Pretty much what I meant

[novastepp]

What has an effect on brain is the dopamine which every DA will increase.

Dont want to open any pandoras box, but my gf is luving caber for multiple O's

Pandora sounds happy.

[diesel101]

5 pimples? That's not acne man

I agree
That's a typical Sunday night inspection.

[Althenery]

Caber of prami are Dopamine Agonists that control your prolactin from elevating... So anytime you run a 19nor its a progestin... Which in theory, if your E2 gets elevated... Prolactin usually follows... Meaning more sexual dysfunctionality... How's your libido... only way to really know is BW...

Sometimes I fell horny but my libido has no issues I'm good as a horse

[TheTaxMan]

I'm good as a horse

Just without the 20inch meat pole