ketotifen fumarate with clen??

[flexshack]

heard different things about this combo and want to know the real deal. is the keto a calcium ion channel blockers? also, what better benefits would you see from this combo versus just plain old clen? and contrastly, what negatives could you encounter from this combo? and finally, is keto really meant for internal ingestion? b/c i know it is used in the field of opthamology. thanks.

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scratch this post. my bad. should have done more searching but found a past post with info on it. thanks.

[Cycleon]

Ahhh - hopefully you found my thread on it in the education forum

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cyc,
i did and it was excellent. very informative. there was one thing, however, that i wasn't quite sure what it was. tnf alpha levels? i tried a search with google and found a few medical reports on these levels dealing with people who had wasting diseases like MS, i think. they really didn't explain what they were however. i guess they were written for doctors who would be expected to know these things already. anyway, my other question is: is the weight that you gain from the ketotifen lean muscle mass or just fat? i am guessing this also will have to do with what one eats, how much they eat, and when they eat among maybe a few other factors. i am curious b/c if it helps to build muscle, then theoretically, when mixed with clen it would be a pretty awesome combo. and finally, what are your feelings on this combo? thanks cyc and/or anyone else who adds their 2 cents.
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