What is causing my extreme lethargy

[morton30]

Hi everyone hope someone can help me i have recently lost 40lbs of fat and now im looking to put that back on but this with muscle. after loosing the weight i got my test levels checked and they were very low so i took matters into my own hand now i am injecting 200mg of test cyp a week i am also taking a sarm stack for 12 weeks lgd rad 140 and s4 i am 3 weeks into the sarm cycle. i feel so lethargic its a waste of time trying to lift feeling like this i cant get half the reps i should does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

[Windex]

Could be 101 things without more information.

Are you injecting 200mg once per week or 100mg twice per week? 200mg is on the top end of TRT, how did you decide on that dose ? If you are not taking an AI with 200mg of Cyp you could be having estrogen problems.

If you didn't check anything beyond test in bloodwork then it was incomplete - thyroid, other sex hormones, blood levels are all very important. 1 Bloodtest also don't give much information.

If you infact have low testosterone then you should qualify for TRT with a Doctor/Anti-Aging clinic.

[Ashop]

Hi everyone hope someone can help me i have recently lost 40lbs of fat and now im looking to put that back on but this with muscle. after loosing the weight i got my test levels checked and they were very low so i took matters into my own hand now i am injecting 200mg of test cyp a week i am also taking a sarm stack for 12 weeks lgd rad 140 and s4 i am 3 weeks into the sarm cycle. i feel so lethargic its a waste of time trying to lift feeling like this i cant get half the reps i should does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

Whats your blood pressure and glucose levels look like currently?
First thing I would do is ditch the SARMS at least for awhile.
If your going to do the 200mg wk TEST split it on MON/THUR

[AR's King Silabolin]

Most likely high e2.

Make sure u eat enough veggies and straw/blue berries. Those little suckers are good for wellbeeing and energy. They just are. Everytime i eat amounts of those, i feel good. Hate eating them though, except from strawberries.

Also make sure u get enough vit D and iron.
Vit D supp every morning evening also boost immunesysteme. Far better than vit C if u ask me.

Enough calsium and magnesium is also very important for converting calories to energy in cells and catalyse energy nerve signals.

As for the sarms, they could make things worse if most of your test converts to estrogen.
If not they got nothing to do about it.

Solution. Order DIM from iherb and take 600 mg ed.
In addition to my suppadvices.

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[morton30]

i have Armidex on the way but i suppose i need another blood test thing is im in the uk the nhs can be very slow. when i had my blood done and it was discovered i had low test they booked me an appointment to see a hormone therapist in 3 months time and i couldn't wait that low plus i just started lifting weight with sarms and im not sure if you can even build much muscle with low test this is why i started buying and injecting test myself. i have just read somwhere elase rad 140 can cause lethargy has anyone on here experienced this?

[morton30]

im injecting 200mg once a week. i decided on top end of of trt because i have started lifting.

[Jamjam12]

Unlikely as you've lost weight but lethargy has been associated with fatty liver so maybe worth checking that out.

[The God Himself]

Please get another bloodwork done, there are too many variables take part here. There are many possible causes for lethargy such as Thyroid, E2, B12/Vit D deficiency and so on.
I would also check the liver enzymes. What about your sleep? Do you sleep enough?

[morton30]

Just got the Armidex through the door and took 0.5mg i have seen somone else on other fourms with same problems lethargic tired a week after trt ect he took Armidex and 5 - 6 hrs later he felt better so were see thanks everyone for your replies. i know i should of got bloodwork done if i was reading this id be thinking the same taking Armidex without even checking his e2 levels what an idiot!. but honestly i feel like pure dogshit and id try anything at the moment

[GearHeaded]

Just got the Armidex through the door and took 0.5mg i have seen somone else on other fourms with same problems lethargic tired a week after trt ect he took Armidex and 5 - 6 hrs later he felt better so were see thanks everyone for your replies. i know i should of got bloodwork done if i was reading this id be thinking the same taking Armidex without even checking his e2 levels what an idiot!. but honestly i feel like pure dogshit and id try anything at the moment

keep in mind everyone is different . taking an AI makes some guys, like myself, feel lethargic ( I feel better in the bedroom and am way stronger in the gym when my estrogen levels are high).
just saying . you may get the opposite effect your looking for . blood work really is key in this instance imo

[morton30]

after taking the Armidex i think i felt better almost straight away hopefully when i wake up tomorrow i feel 100% so i can destroy the weights again

[GearHeaded]

after taking the Armidex i think i felt better almost straight away

Placebo effect . Arimidex works by blunting testosterone from converting into estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. it does not magically lower the estrogen you already have immediately . its a process that takes time. your estrogen levels are not lower from taking that one arimidex.

[AlphaMindz]

Hi everyone hope someone can help me i have recently lost 40lbs of fat and now im looking to put that back on but this with muscle. after loosing the weight i got my test levels checked and they were very low so i took matters into my own hand now i am injecting 200mg of test cyp a week i am also taking a sarm stack for 12 weeks lgd rad 140 and s4 i am 3 weeks into the sarm cycle. i feel so lethargic its a waste of time trying to lift feeling like this i cant get half the reps i should does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

What's your diet looking like?

[morton30]

Placebo effect . Arimidex works by blunting testosterone from converting into estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. it does not magically lower the estrogen you already have immediately . its a process that takes time. your estrogen levels are not lower from taking that one arimidex.

well i took Arimidex and as time went on i felt better and better i cant say theres much chance of it being a placebo because when i say extreme lethargy i really mean i couldent be botherd to do anything it was really bad but by the end of the day i done 3 sets of bicep curls before bed today i fell like a different man. but yea i know what you mean if stops the conversion of test to e2 the drug does not diminish the e2 levels.

[morton30]

im attempting a recomp so im at around 2k calories slight deficit maybe making sure im getting my 170g of protein a day i was thinking it could of been the deficit but no honestly i know it was my e2 Arimidex sorted the lethargy out for me

[Windex]

im injecting 200mg once a week. i decided on top end of of trt because i have started lifting.

You need to read the TRT stickies, injecting 200mg once a week and using only Test by itself for TRT is a very poor protocol. Trying to just freestyle TRT like you are doing is going to create more and worse problems that just low Testosterone. 3 months is not a long time to see a Doctor given that TRT is a lifelong commitment.

Lifting weights has no relevancy on Test dosing for treating hypogonadism.

Like previously stated, you need more bloodwork and medical information to make an educated and informed analysis of what the root cause of the problem is. If you have a thyroid or B12 defeciency for example, you aren't fixing the issue and it's not going to be solved longterm from Testosterone.

Arimidex has a 48(?)hour elimination half life, so you feeling better soon after is like GH said a placebo effect, takes a while to kick in.

I can't imagine stats where 2k calories = recomp while training unless it was a woman. Sounds like the diet has room for improvement as well - members here can help with that.

[tbjake34]

It's the sarms. Guranteed

[Ashop]

It's the sarms. Guranteed

Yep. My bet as well.

[AR's King Silabolin]

It's the sarms. Guranteed

And the bio/chem explanation for that statement is?

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[AlphaMindz]

WHAT'S YOUR DIET LOOKING LIKE?? lol