T3 and HGH question

[97viper]

I believe I read somewhere that HGH reduced the effectiveness of using T3. Is this accurate or am I not remembering correctly? I’ve been on low dose HGH for a while but stopped recently when I started the "My First Cycle" with Test E at 500 mg/week and added T3 to the cycle. Can I go back on HGH or should I wait until I am off of the T3?

[97viper]

Anyone?

[Windex]

Have not heard of that personally. I've been on GH for a while now and hasn't impacted any thyroid bloodwork

[SampsonandDelilah]

I haven’t heard of anything that supports a negative impact on T3 uptake due to HGH also.

Maybe go back and try and find the source where you read that. Was it in a clinical journal or was it “bro talk”, just question the source of the data/information is all

[GearHeaded]

HGH is going to suppress TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone).. so this can have some effect on hypothyroidism .
BUT at the same time it also increases the conversion of thyroxine to triiodothyronine.

so even though your TSH is going to get suppressed to some degree, your conversion of T4 to T3 will actually be increased some

and of course if your simply taking exogenous T3 , that all does not really matter

OP , I believe your confusing the suppression of TSH from HGH use with suppression of or lack of effectiveness of T3.

T3 works just fine with HGH ,, again its your TSH that will be effected (but that does not matter much cause your taking exogenous T3)


on a side note - T4 may be a better option for you, but that depends on your goals. . with T4 and HGH combined your going to get a naturally high conversion to T3 anyhow, plus get the benefits of the anabolic enzymes that are produced when the liver converts T4 into T3..
if your taking Clen and trying to cut pretty hard though, T3 is the way to go (as long as you don't suppress estrogen to much with AI's)

[killionb12]

HGH is going to suppress TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone).. so this can have some effect on hypothyroidism .
BUT at the same time it also increases the conversion of thyroxine to triiodothyronine.

so even though your TSH is going to get suppressed to some degree, your conversion of T4 to T3 will actually be increased some

and of course if your simply taking exogenous T3 , that all does not really matter

OP , I believe your confusing the suppression of TSH from HGH use with suppression of or lack of effectiveness of T3.

T3 works just fine with HGH ,, again its your TSH that will be effected (but that does not matter much cause your taking exogenous T3)


on a side note - T4 may be a better option for you, but that depends on your goals. . with T4 and HGH combined your going to get a naturally high conversion to T3 anyhow, plus get the benefits of the anabolic enzymes that are produced when the liver converts T4 into T3..
if your taking Clen and trying to cut pretty hard though, T3 is the way to go (as long as you don't suppress estrogen to much with AI's)

Good info and advice here. Spot on! Unless you are prepping for a show T3 isn’t needed. T4 and HGH have some great synergies and that would be a better option but if you insist on T3 I wouldn’t go higher than 25-50mcg daily. T3 can cut into muscle pretty quickly especially in a caloric deficit so be careful.


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[97viper]

HGH is going to suppress TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone).. so this can have some effect on hypothyroidism .
BUT at the same time it also increases the conversion of thyroxine to triiodothyronine.

so even though your TSH is going to get suppressed to some degree, your conversion of T4 to T3 will actually be increased some

and of course if your simply taking exogenous T3 , that all does not really matter

OP , I believe your confusing the suppression of TSH from HGH use with suppression of or lack of effectiveness of T3.

T3 works just fine with HGH ,, again its your TSH that will be effected (but that does not matter much cause your taking exogenous T3)


on a side note - T4 may be a better option for you, but that depends on your goals. . with T4 and HGH combined your going to get a naturally high conversion to T3 anyhow, plus get the benefits of the anabolic enzymes that are produced when the liver converts T4 into T3..
if your taking Clen and trying to cut pretty hard though, T3 is the way to go (as long as you don't suppress estrogen to much with AI's)

Thank you for the info. I’ve used Clen in the past and was not a fan. My goal is to cut so I wanted to try T3 which is why I’m on the “My First Cycle” including the AI’s at .25mg EOD.

[twmcm]

Part of my current cutting stack includes 4 IU daily HGH and 0.5mg T3 daily.

Judging from this thread, I could gain an incremental benefit by switching from T3 to T4.

What daily T4 dose should I take (equal to 0.5mg daily T3)?

The rest of my cutting stack is: tren, test, mast, proviron, anavar & winstrol.


Thanks.