Deca with no Test

[Pale1]

Guys it's been a while since I've been here so I hope everyone is well. I'm going to start making the effort to get over here more as I feel at this point I probably have a fair amount of experience to offer & could probably take some of the pressure off of you vets from answering the same questions over & over. But first, this is likely going to be one of the most off-the-wall questions ever asked here but please bear with me. I personally am on medically prescribed Test, Deca & HCG. It's been life changing for me. The Deca in particular has done wonders for my joints & quality of life & I understand the importance of using Test along with it for overall health.

But it's not me I'm asking for. It's my best friend: my DOG. Rocky is an old boy now. Large mixed breed & he's starting to exhibit hip pain & muscle weakness. He's lived well past his life expectancy & at this point it's all about quality of life, not life extension. I really want to get him some joint discomfort relief. I've shared my personal experience with Deca with my vet & have run the idea of prescribing him Deca by him & he's not necessarily opposed to it, just doesn't know anything about it. Rocky IS NOT NEUTERED (because I believe in the importance of Testosterone for male health) but at this point in his life I really doubt he's making much testosterone anyway. Would there be any harm in him running Deca only to help with joint pain & reverse muscle wasting?

BTW I think I've got all the other bases covered. He's on glucosamine, chondroiten, MSM, fish oil, hyalauronic acid, turmeric & CBD oil as well as weekly injections of Chondroprotec.

Like I said this is strictly a quality of life question at this point & any advise is appreciated.

[i_SLAM_cougars]

Guys it's been a while since I've been here so I hope everyone is well. I'm going to start making the effort to get over here more as I feel at this point I probably have a fair amount of experience to offer & could probably take some of the pressure off of you vets from answering the same questions over & over. But first, this is likely going to be one of the most off-the-wall questions ever asked here but please bear with me. I personally am on medically prescribed Test, Deca & HCG. It's been life changing for me. The Deca in particular has done wonders for my joints & quality of life & I understand the importance of using Test along with it for overall health.

But it's not me I'm asking for. It's my best friend: my DOG. Rocky is an old boy now. Large mixed breed & he's starting to exhibit hip pain & muscle weakness. He's lived well past his life expectancy & at this point it's all about quality of life, not life extension. I really want to get him some joint discomfort relief. I've shared my personal experience with Deca with my vet & have run the idea of prescribing him Deca by him & he's not necessarily opposed to it, just doesn't know anything about it. Rocky IS NOT NEUTERED (because I believe in the importance of Testosterone for male health) but at this point in his life I really doubt he's making much testosterone anyway. Would there be any harm in him running Deca only to help with joint pain & reverse muscle wasting?

BTW I think I've got all the other bases covered. He's on glucosamine, chondroiten, MSM, fish oil, hyalauronic acid, turmeric & CBD oil as well as weekly injections of Chondroprotec.

Like I said this is strictly a quality of life question at this point & any advise is appreciated.

I can’t see anything wrong with it. If opiates didn’t control the pain market, I think this would be a lot more common practice

[Windex]

Consult with your Vet

[GearHeaded]

I believe that the idea that deca is some super drug for your joints is completely over rated and greatly exaggerated on forums like this.. everyone just wants to jump on deca and they use the excuse "well it'll help my joints'' . when you look into the pharmacology of deca there is nothing there that directly supports joint health. is it possible to get a little more synovial fluid retention and collagen synthesis, sure, but thats not what deca primarily does. its an indirect effect and is not even a factor for some users.
on a scale of 1-10 , deca is probably about a 2 in regards to joint support .

some of the 'I feel good' on Deca arguments are probably because deca has some slight anti inflammatory properties and this is why your elbows don't ache quite as bad as before.

but there are lots of other drugs that are much more efficient at providing joint pain relief and anti inflammatory benefits then deca. however, deca is the only one thats going to provide that muscle wasting prevention effect, and perhaps healing/regeneration properties at the same time.
most anti inflammatory meds are catabolic, where as Deca is going to be anabolic.

so just wanted to throw that perspective out there.. deca is NOT a joint support drug. very little evidence of this. however it can be beneficial for sure.
Deca is one of my go to favorite compounds I've used for years. however I'm not buying into the hype that its going to magically fix my joints or that it even provides much joint support at all (despite popular belief)

[Pale1]

I believe that the idea that deca is some super drug for your joints is completely over rated and greatly exaggerated on forums like this.. everyone just wants to jump on deca and they use the excuse "well it'll help my joints'' . when you look into the pharmacology of deca there is nothing there that directly supports joint health. is it possible to get a little more synovial fluid retention and collagen synthesis, sure, but thats not what deca primarily does. its an indirect effect and is not even a factor for some users.
on a scale of 1-10 , deca is probably about a 2 in regards to joint support .

some of the 'I feel good' on Deca arguments are probably because deca has some slight anti inflammatory properties and this is why your elbows don't ache quite as bad as before.

but there are lots of other drugs that are much more efficient at providing joint pain relief and anti inflammatory benefits then deca. however, deca is the only one thats going to provide that muscle wasting prevention effect, and perhaps healing/regeneration properties at the same time.
most anti inflammatory meds are catabolic, where as Deca is going to be anabolic.

so just wanted to throw that perspective out there.. deca is NOT a joint support drug. very little evidence of this. however it can be beneficial for sure.
Deca is one of my go to favorite compounds I've used for years. however I'm not buying into the hype that its going to magically fix my joints or that it even provides much joint support at all (despite popular belief)

Good perspective. I agree it's no magic bullet. Like I said, it's helped me personally but it should definitely be part of a comprehensive approach to joint health. I also believe in putting strong muscles around the joints to help protect them so I suppose it could help from that angle as well.

So do you see anything wrong with running the deca without Test for the purpose that I'm wanting to use it for?

[Windex]

I volunteered for an animal hospital for 6 years and there was a client that gave their dog Nandrolone. I don't remember the exact circumstances of the animal but the owner nearly killed his dog.

You really need to get a Vet to advise you for your animal, not a steroid forum.

If the current vet doesn't know anything about Deca then the Vet can network and find one who does.

[Pale1]

I volunteered for an animal hospital for 6 years and there was a client that gave their dog Nandrolone. I don't remember the exact circumstances of the animal but the owner nearly killed his dog.

You really need to get a Vet to advise you for your animal, not a steroid forum.

If the current vet doesn't know anything about Deca then the Vet can network and find one who does.

Thanks. Definitely not doing anything without my vets approval. I spoke with him today as well & he is looking into it.