Please help me take a final decision regarding my current cycle (((serious matter)))

[TheDreamer]

Like I said on another thread, during my first 9 weeks my cycle consisted of EQ and test c. I switched it up to dbol and test c because I just wasn't seeing results or at least a remarkable change. I've been on dbol for 2 weeks already and nothing out of the extraordinary neither. My dealer told me to wait another week for the dbol to work but I'm skeptycal about it. I'm on my 11th week overall and getting only 400mg test c per week. It's also important to point out that during my first 4 weeks I was on a deficit diet. Also, during the first week of dbol I was on a maintanance and not eating right (I was traveling). So what do you guys think I should do next? Maybe to wait another week for the dbol? I definitely need to cut for a couple of weeks before pct btw. Please be respectful with your comments. All I'm trying to do is to takeba wise decision. Thanks in advance.

[TheDreamer]

Bulk up cycle btw. First 4 weeks were cutting cycle. I was able to cut a bit of fat and gain some muscle during the latter but it was nothing out of the extraordinary. I could have done it without steroids. Help please.

[TheDreamer]

This was me on my 8th week at 175 pounds (I took it in a evening).

My waist gained 1 inch after that because of not eating right during the week I traveled (yes, that's how easily I gain fat).

[TheDreamer]

I'm 5'11 and 181 pounds currently.

[Cylon357]

Everybody gains fat when they don't eat right.

I think we talked about this before, but at this stage of your development, pick ONE goal for a cycle, either bulk, cut, recomp, strength, etc. Do not mix goals over the course of a cycle, that is an advanced technique for competitors.

Train your legs properly, the rest of your physique will benefit.

Drop the dbol. It is doing nothing right now but causing you stress over is it bunk, did you accidentally take the wrong dose, etc.

Finish out this cycle at the 400mg test you are using now. PCT, then train purely natty for a year or two. You have a solid natty physique, but if your gear is not bunk, you have to learn to train more efficiently. In addition, get your nutrition locked in. Neither training nor nutrition are where they need to be or you would be seeing more results. Not trying to be harsh, just encouraging a serious look at those two areas.

Once those two factors are dialed in, and have been for two years consistently, then you will be ready for gear. Too many guys get on gear thinking they can half step and get all swole. Not saying this is you, just that a LOT of people have that mindset. The gear is the finishing touch for, not the main driver of, success.

[TheDreamer]

Everybody gains fat when they don't eat right.

I think we talked about this before, but at this stage of your development, pick ONE goal for a cycle, either bulk, cut, recomp, strength, etc. Do not mix goals over the course of a cycle, that is an advanced technique for competitors.

Train your legs properly, the rest of your physique will benefit.

Drop the dbol. It is doing nothing right now but causing you stress over is it bunk, did you accidentally take the wrong dose, etc.

Finish out this cycle at the 400mg test you are using now. PCT, then train purely natty for a year or two. You have a solid natty physique, but if your gear is not bunk, you have to learn to train more efficiently. In addition, get your nutrition locked in. Neither training nor nutrition are where they need to be or you would be seeing more results. Not trying to be harsh, just encouraging a serious look at those two areas.

Once those two factors are dialed in, and have been for two years consistently, then you will be ready for gear. Too many guys get on gear thinking they can half step and get all swole. Not saying this is you, just that a LOT of people have that mindset. The gear is the finishing touch for, not the main driver of, success.

Thanks for the input. Just wanted to point out that I've been training for 9 years. Yes, I'm very frustated at this point. It just seems like everything I do doesn't come out right. I had a online coach btw. He gave me the diet and the roids I told me what steroids I should be using.

[TheDreamer]

Excuse the typos.

[TheDreamer]

Any more inputs?

[TheDreamer]

My back as for yesterday:

[Mooseman33]

maybe go back and real all ur posts and threads. That will explain why nothing has come out right.
also, no way that is 9 years of training back.

you are all over the place, its ok, it happens here.
that said, you are in the right place and we all want to help, but at some time u have to take advice. Seem like a good guy, if u want it bad enough it is here for u.

[charger69]

maybe go back and real all ur posts and threads. That will explain why nothing has come out right.
also, no way that is 9 years of training back.

you are all over the place, its ok, it happens here.
that said, you are in the right place and we all want to help, but at some time u have to take advice. Seem like a good guy, if u want it bad enough it is here for u.

^^^^ what he said. You ask for advice and then do whatever you want anyway disregarding the advice.


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[TheDreamer]

maybe go back and real all ur posts and threads. That will explain why nothing has come out right.
also, no way that is 9 years of training back.

you are all over the place, its ok, it happens here.
that said, you are in the right place and we all want to help, but at some time u have to take advice. Seem like a good guy, if u want it bad enough it is here for u.

Yes nearly 9 years (since june 2012). But of course I never did everything perfectly during that time.

[TheDreamer]

^^^^ what he said. You ask for advice and then do whatever you want anyway disregarding the advice.


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I did everything my coach told me to do. At the end it was a waste of money. I think steroids just don't work the same in my system. It's the only explanation.

[s1nc1ty]

I did everything my coach told me to do. At the end it was a waste of money. I think steroids just don't work the same in my system. It's the only explanation.

Ive herad people say "drugs dont work on me" . They have claimed they can smoke weed and it doesnt work, even claimed they can take ecstasy and ghb and it dont work on them. I literally seen people claim that. Let me tell you, those drugs are so powerful they work on everyone, they can literally kill you. I think its probably the same with steroids. The hormones are way too powerful for them "not to work" on someone if you inject them with legit product and high enough dose.